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So this is legit, really happening, and I can prove it.

I found this board talking to a reddit user, he said you guys might be able to help me.

I buy storage lockers at auction. I just recently bought a few large lockers that were PACKED to the ceiling with these cardboard boxes.

Each one weighs 25kg.

after winning the lockers, we opened one up... turns out I now own 50 TONS of kratom.

SO far this is what I know. All of the boxes are marked and labled the same... none appear to be any diff or marked diff.

They are all sealed in packing tape.

we opened a random 5.. each has 1 bag inside, in the bag is crushed fine green powder.

I had a guy here in Myrtle beach try some... he says its indonesian, greens strain, and the best he ever had. He took a bunch.

I have called a few local stores, they wont buy it at any price, they are mad I even have it it feels. They tell me they have agreements with vendors.


I have the following questions.

1. the obvious... what the hell do I do with 50 frigging tons, is there anyone i should def call to sell it?
2. How easy is it to sell, is there any regulations? licence?
3. how hard is it taking payment for this if I started a website to sell it?
4. How should I price it? I sold the kilos the guy took for 60 a kilo. he tells me the cases I should not open and sell them as is at 20 a kilo x 25 + shipping... is that fair?
5. Am I going to jail when the dea shows up because I have 50 metric tons of kratom? everything I see says legal and im fine... for now.
6. I posted a similar msg on another board... within 20 min i had a LOT of people BEGGING for "samples" so far none can even afford to pay for a shipping label to send me so i can ship them a sample..
can I expect a lot of that? Is the stuff addictive and Im about to have fiends going all Tryrone Biggums on me?

any help is appreciated. I'm happy to provide my cell so we can chat if easier.

oh yea... and security... do I really need to sweat having this? am I about to get robbed because Im holding 50 tons of green crack?

I apologize, I really know nothign about this stuff

So long as you are in a legal state and only ship to legal states and cities, you should be fine.

However, with a business it would probably behoove you to contact a lawyer. One of the things about a business sis to look into forming an LLC (limited liability corporation.)

$60-80/kilo is a good price. I'm not sure about not opening boxes because there's some stuff (depending on labelling-- I'm sure this is all from Indonesia/Malaysia so it doesn't have domestic labelling on it) that I know I would personally buy if it was from, say Kratom Crumbs, a known overseas vendor.

So knowing what the labels say would help you sell it.

Other than that, yeah I would pay for shipping for samples as I'm sure a lot of people would here.


The issue you will run into is payment processors. There's very few who allow it. I want to say MasterCard/Visa is a no go. PayPal and the third party apps supposedly can get you into trouble too and that's not even accounting for your accounts getting flagged and frozen.

You can suggest money orders be sent to you first but I don't think you can do that until you have a reputation.

So, piecemale, a little bit at a time-- yeah, easy. But if you want to actually form a business it's a bit trickier and you'd have to read up on it.


If you want to move large amounts you might contact a handful of already established vendors. Maybe you'll only get $20-40/kilo but it will get taken off your hands faster with less headache (but then again, at those prices, sell some here too so we can take them off your hands

storagelockerkratom wrote:oh yea... and security... do I really need to sweat having this? am I about to get robbed because Im holding 50 tons of green crack?

I apologize, I really know nothign about this stuff

Well, diversify-- keep some at home, and maybe get two smaller storage units at two different places. At least until you have a plan: sell it retail on your own, partner with established business, or sell it off a little bit at a time online and in person. Each have good points and bad points to them

Also, referring to it as green crack is probably not a good idea

Also, what state are you in?

I doubt people will pay 80 a kilo, only because you don’t know the strain type or brand at all. 80 is the standard rate. Also, test some of it!! Just in case. There have been a few minor cases of contamination, got to be sure you aren’t making people sick, although the chances are very very low. If you could possibly check WHEN it was purchased it would help. Kratom is like fine wines in that certain years are far better. For example, if it were pre-2012 kratom it would be very strong. 2017 might be a bit weaker. EDIT- read more of ur post haha. Yes, I’d say 45 including shipping a kilo is very fair. Not too cheap and people will buy it instead of caring which strain it is. Payment tho- be careful, I hope vendors can chime in. Kratom is 100% legal BUT he fda loves to go after people selling it and has shut down payment accounts. Not often, usually when other sellers (only a few bad apples) snitch them out to the credit companies. You should be fine though, funny enough the 50 tons is only a days work to the biggest box retailers of kratom! Good luck, and let me know when you start- I’ll take at least 1 kilo lol.

Pics or it didn’t happen

Lambeezy wrote:Pics or it didn’t happen

This.

If you have 100,000 lb. (nearly 50,000 kilos) of kratom, pics are called for

storagelockerkratom wrote:
after winning the lockers, we opened one up... turns out I now own 50 TONS of kratom.

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Guess you'd better pick out a business name.

Also, MeWe might be a good platform for you.

lol you are right... ill post pics of the lockers... i took 6 boxes home... these are what I have here at the house

https://imgur.com/65TPC1v

https://imgur.com/PQ1HxhL

https://imgur.com/sdeaLaC

If you sold all of it at just $25 a kilo you'd be a millionaire. You should definitely get it tested though. I wonder if it's all the same strain and what kind it is. You won the kratom lottery.

https://imgur.com/D6IYSFl

https://imgur.com/NaBpAKz

https://imgur.com/eFaejdM

https://imgur.com/3UVGRk7

https://imgur.com/ftjhpGw

https://imgur.com/SM33PHz

id sell any large amount of it right now for 15 a kilo

smaller amounts ill take 20

1 case id do 25 a kilo

find me a buyer ill cut you a finders fee... I want it GONE!

That's tempting, I would really want to try it or at least get some reviews before buying. But if you still have some left in a couple weeks I'd buy a bunch

i will do any of the following:

I vacume sealed a few small bags... send me a shipping label for a envelope under a lb and ill send it to you free... test it. I'm not paying for shipping to send out samples...

I will send anyone a case if they pay shipping... first one you pay after inspection, if you dont like it... send it back, ill pay shipping... otherwise... we agree on a price before I ship.... if you like it, pay me.

[mod edit: OP’s personal contact info removed for privacy reasons]

How about you post a pic beside those bricks with your username on it

How much would shipping be for a case? That's like 50lb....if you sent it anything other than ground it would be a fortune. And ground can take weeks.

Lambeezy wrote:How about you post a pic beside those bricks with your username on it

i just did with yours... is that not good enough?

beathappening wrote:How much would shipping be for a case? That's like 50lb....if you sent it anything other than ground it would be a fortune. And ground can take weeks.

give me a zip and ill find out

for amnyone that wanted a larger amount.. i have a truck and trailer and would do cash on delivery after you inspect... ill go anyplace in the country if the amount bought is right

I dont shit about the stuff... I want it gone and fast.

I have a kilo on the way. Phil is a standup guy. Id give him a shot!

This story really doesn't add up to me. Who is just going to leave 50 tons of kratom sitting around in a storage locker and then let the lease on it lapse without pulling out their goods?

I'm going to let this thread slide for now and keep an eye on it, but I have a bad gut feeling about this.

e_poison wrote:This story really doesn't add up to me. Who is just going to leave 50 tons of kratom sitting around in a storage locker and then let the lease on it lapse without pulling out their goods?

I'm going to let this thread slide for now and keep an eye on it, but I have a bad gut feeling about this.

Agreed. Spidey senses are tingling.

e_poison wrote:This story really doesn't add up to me. Who is just going to leave 50 tons of kratom sitting around in a storage locker and then let the lease on it lapse without pulling out their goods?

I'm going to let this thread slide for now and keep an eye on it, but I have a bad gut feeling about this.

Having gone through bad times and been forced to let a storage space go after fees added up too much and I didn't have any way to deal with it..I dunno. Yeah is it probably too good to be true? Maybe.

But people die and shit like this goes by the wayside because of disorganized estates, so I could see something like that happening.

Yeah it's odd. It could be garbage kratom, who knows. It definitely doesn't happen everyday (ie. ever). Cheap kilos are tempting but whether it's worth the risk...I'd rather be on the safe side. I'd like to see some legit reviews on it. I were him and serious about selling it, I'd invest some money into postage for sending out samples and getting some good reviews/buzz going on, or at least get some lab tested, and I'm not just saying that because I want something for free. he's potentially sitting on hundreds of thousands of dollars, or more possibly if it's all legitimate (which makes it all the more unbelievable that someone would just leave it to rot in a storage locker...speaking of, I wonder how long it's been sitting there??) I'd say it's worth the small investment. There are just too many unknown variables right now, but hopefully if someone bites they'll leave some non shill reviews.

It doesn't seem like he knows anything about kratom though. He called it green crack and he's worried about legalities. And payment processors have not made this shit easy so I could see it looking like a huge headache.

herbalhippie wrote:

e_poison wrote:This story really doesn't add up to me. Who is just going to leave 50 tons of kratom sitting around in a storage locker and then let the lease on it lapse without pulling out their goods?

I'm going to let this thread slide for now and keep an eye on it, but I have a bad gut feeling about this.

Agreed. Spidey senses are tingling.

Yeah seriously this whole scenario reeks of sketchiness....

I'll keep this updated after I try it. I've been a kratom connusueir for 5 years.

I believe he actually has those boxes (at least 3 anyway, still would like to see more of the storage locker) those pictures look real. My concern is if it's actually kratom, and if it is, the quality of it. He said there was no paperwork with it, and he doesn't know anything about kratom...so how did he figure out what it was in the first place? And couldn't it be matcha or some other similar looking substance? I can't go on some dude who claims it's the best he's ever had

Maybe it's one of the storage lockers where the fda keeps seized Kratom and they forgot about it

https://doublemherbals.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1241

Pete2000 wrote:Maybe it's one of the storage lockers where the fda keeps seized Kratom and they forgot about it

https://doublemherbals.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1241

.....and the fda forgot about it.

Jujigatame1981 wrote:I'll keep this updated after I try it. I've been a kratom connusueir for 5 years.

Start small! If you don't come back, we'll assume you died of salmonella poisoning

I have to tell ya... some of the comments saying this is "sketchy" or shady, something does not add up, etc... its kinda insulting, I get the feeling of something too good to be true usually is... but what here is too good to be true for anyone other than me?

how does this get left in storage and no fees paid? They did a tv show for years about it... yes, most storage units have shit or nothing in them, finding Micky Mantel rooky cards is pretty rare.

I personally havegot a $25k boat, car motors, a shelby cobra kit car half built and a whole ton of junk and shit. So saying this is not believable just because of how I got it... thats silly.

But "what" does not ad up what is it that does not ad upp?? that's what does not add up to me.

Im sending free samples to anyone willing to send me a shipping label.

I took pics holding a paper with a screen name of what i have here at the house... my apologies for not rushing 12 miles to my warehouse to take more pics to satisfy the naysayers.

If I need to go to my warehouse and take pics of stacks of boxes I will...

But furthermore... what is my offer?? "I WILL SEND IT TO YOU FREE IF YOU PAY SHIPPING, AND YOU CAN PAY ME IF ITS GOOD AND LEGIT AFTER YOU GET IT"... Whats the scam?

I didn't ask anyone pay anything up front... i didn't ask for a Western union to Nigeria... I don't need your credit card info.

I have 50 tons of this crap in boxes and I want to sell it as fast as possible.

If you want a large amount, i need to trust you before shipping, you dont need to trust me at all.

I even offered to drive it to you and accept payment after inspection.

If there is a scam here what is it? Am I secretly working for UPS and trying to boost shipping sales? The worst undercover DEA agent ever??

If i was demanding wire transfers up front I would get there being a real hesitation and calling BS.

I am a United States Marine Corps Combat vet, former police officer, and now run a few local businesses and ecommerce businesses online. I am a father of 2, 1 on the way to The Marines himself, the other in college to be a vet tech. I am not looking to rip anyone off on fake kratom or god knows what is being alleged.

To anyone that wants to find out... you are welcome to come here, I am in myrtle beach sc... i will drive large amounts to you with no payment up front... if you want to pay shipping on a few cases... ill send them and hope you pay me. email me shipping lables.

If you dont pay, I'll either want it back... or trust ill DEF come get it from you.

Otherwise... if you cant see the logic here and work together to find a way to do buisiness... nothing will ever convince you. go back to commenting "fake" on every youtube video made and posting 9/11 conspiracies or whatever it is you do.

Jujigatame1981 wrote:I have a kilo on the way. Phil is a standup guy. Id give him a shot!

thanks bro.. and thanks for telling me about this place... I think....

storagelockerkratom wrote:I have to tell ya... some of the comments saying this is "sketchy" or shady, something does not add up, etc... its kinda insulting, I get the feeling of something too good to be true usually is... but what here is too good to be true for anyone other than me?

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I know storage lockers can hold amazing things, I've lost one myself. I try not to think about it.

Don't feel insulted. Look at it from our point of view, it absolutely seems too good to be true. 50 TONS of kratom left to be auctioned? Only large vendors are dealing in those quantities. And for...what did you say? $20 a kilo or something like that?

Someone mentioned a possible FDA seizure and storage. Do they even store seized kratom or do they destroy it? I can't imagine a government entity putting something worth this much money in storage and then neglecting to pay the storage fees.

Anyway, we did not delete your post and/or ban you. We are letting you try to sell your kratom for now. I want to caution our members again that if you want to chance it, it's on you. I sincerely hope that everything is on the up and up and everyone gets the deal of a lifetime.

beathappening wrote:

Jujigatame1981 wrote:I'll keep this updated after I try it. I've been a kratom connusueir for 5 years.

Start small! If you don't come back, we'll assume you died of salmonella poisoning

I have to tell ya... some of the comments saying this is "sketchy" or shady, something does not add up, etc... its kinda insulting, I get the feeling of something too good to be true usually is... but what here is too good to be true for anyone other than me?

How did this get left in storage and no fees paid? They did a tv show for years about it... yes, most storage units have shit or nothing in them, finding Micky Mantel rooky cards is pretty rare.

I personally havegot a $25k boat, car motors, a shelby cobra kit car half built and a whole ton of junk and shit. So saying this is not believable just because of how I got it... thats silly.

But "what" does not ad up what is it that does not ad upp?? that's what does not add up to me.

Im sending free samples to anyone willing to send me a shipping label.


Sorry. but questions like "how does this get left in storage and no fees paid" send up a red flag for me. You (often?) buy storage lockers at auctions, but you don't know anything about how, I presume - abandoned - lockers are sold? Any details about legality would be my number one concern if I'm buying the contents of a storage locker. Who did it belong to? Why is it abandoned? Who is selling it and why are you able to buy it? It DOES sound shady. I would like to know exactly what kind of "auction" this is and what Rights & Responsibilities you have as a buyer.

Fast forward: you are happy to send samples. Wait. I thought you didn't know ANYTHING about kratom - even how to identify it. Now you're cool with purchasing mylar bags, filling them precisely with a good scale, filling them... Did you say that you would "vacuum seal" these samples? Where did you get a good vacuum sealer so quickly?

And the brightest red flag is that you are DESPERATE to get rid of this; like you fear a kratom mafioso barging in and cutting off your digits.

I don't know WTF is going on, but this is just the kind of believe-it-or-not Tale I need to get through the doldrums of January

Eh, /u/storagelockerkratom-- don't sweat it. It's a small community and we like to gossip like anyone else.

I'm also on the chopping block for testing and I'm intrigued. After talking to him, I kind of understand (based on where he is and supposedly who might be controlling local kratom sales) what might have happened with this storage situation. But it doesn't sound like it's shady on his end.

However I'm hoping Andrew P. over at Indo Elephant (if he's still out of Charlotte) is able to help take some.

You might also contact motark best who's out of Brooklyn I believe. And canopy botanicals is (I think) also out of NC but maybe in the Raleigh or Greensboro area.


It is kind of tough not being tested by a lab but honestly *most* of what we have ever bought has never actually been tested or even claimed to have been tested so I can't exactly hold the guy to a higher standard than I am willing to out other vendors through. Kratom goes through so many hands in Indonesia that yeah, it could be part mornings or green tea and hopefully not anything worse than that.

If you dont pay, I'll either want it back... or trust ill DEF come get it from you.

Yikes, not the greatest sales pitch. I don't think people are going to line up to do business with you with that kind of talk.