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I mentioned this batch in Bandito's previous thread about the Crown Jewel Sumpur, which many people are in love with.

This is Ancient Forest White A7-W24. When TFH hits a white, they usually score pretty high. Not all of them, but a good amount, and most better than other vendors. Good, relaxing body feel, not too much, but it's there, along with a little hype. Boosted concentration. Smiles and zippiness. Non-jittery energy.

Compared to their Afterburner (which I also highly recommend, I love it), the Ancient Forest is less hard, classical white energy and more euphoric, while said Afterburner is strongly relaxing and I guess fun? Not sure if that's a good description, but let me tell you, don't skip either.

First you say the Ancient Forest has less energy, then you say the Afterburner is more relaxing.

So are they both slow whites?

MadDevil11 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:51 pm First you say the Ancient Forest has less energy, then you say the Afterburner is more relaxing.

So are they both slow whites?

The Afterburner feels pretty fast to me, like a 7 or 8 out of 10 on the slow — fast scale. It’s not jittery or anything, just nice energy, motivation and mood all around.
I bought the Ancient Forest a while ago but have yet to crack it open, I have a habit of buying batches when I already have way too much as it is

I enjoyed the Ancient Forest White quite a bit, had to buy more. Smooth white like Afterburner but more mood lift IMO

MadDevil11 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 10:51 pm First you say the Ancient Forest has less energy, then you say the Afterburner is more relaxing.

So are they both slow whites?

Ancient Forest - non-jittery energy, more like that of a 'classic white,' such as white md

Afterburner - relaxing energy aspect to it reminiscent of jade hulus

I see, so for you the Ancient White is better for like sitting at a desk and getting work done, while the Afterburner would be better for mowing the lawn or something.

They both sound great.

I love both those types of whites.

MadDevil11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:38 pm I see, so for you the Ancient White is better for like sitting at a desk and getting work done, while the Afterburner would be better for mowing the lawn or something.

They both sound great.

I love both those types of whites.

Hmm, I wouldn't put it that way, but it would def work.

Aloha my man!

Yipper, Ancient Forest White is one of my favorites!

I'm not typically a fan of Whites (Otie's White Elephant is a notable exception, especially for adding spice for blends), but this one... my my my...

SeventhHeaven wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:08 pm Yipper, Ancient Forest White is one of my favorites!

I'm not typically a fan of Whites (Otie's White Elephant is a notable exception, especially for adding spice for blends), but this one... my my my...

I picked up the Ancient Forest White and it just doesn't seem to provide the focus that some of Liza's whites have, like White Crow and Super Pure White Maeng Da. Will try Ancient Forest White again ,maybe at a lower dose ,and see if that kicks thing into gear differently. Glad it's working well for you folks though !

So none of my new TFH has hit at all and I tried going lower (my normal is 2.5g) and it didnt help, but for the first time, raising my dose actually got it to hit so good. I did maybe .6-.7 more than normal which is a good chunk more. Less is definitely more but as someone who doesn’t normally use different amounts for different flavors, this was a complete game changer.

oftheshire wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:54 pm So none of my new TFH has hit at all - I tried going lower (my normal is 2.5g) and it didnt help, but for the first time, raising my dose actually got it to hit so good.

Per Day Total maybe more important.... IF you're one who consumes kratom like 5X to 10X per Day ?? Just guessing... there should be NO reason for quality TFH kratom to not feel effects or "HIT", of course there's many many other factors.... your Age, your weight, How Long with kratom, any illness, any problems with digestion, constipation, or consuming other things that could interfere.

I have been on a fairly steady Base of TFH = about 1.5 grams, 2X per Day (with occasional 3rd serving), So... Per Day Total, is always 5 gram or LESS... then I ADD, Extract alkaloids of Mitragynine around 15mg - and over past year, 7-Hydroxy of 5mg to 10mg per Day (½ Tablet)... And my kratom almost always "Hits" good, I don't wanna say "Never" but - I can't remember when a Serving of kratom didn't, at least, feel good... With "Strong effects", being very common.

2x a day for me at 2.5 g. Going lower didn’t help but doin that little bit more for the TFH batches that didn’t work for me has been a complete game changer over past few days.

I agree! Ancient Forrest white is smooth! Mood for days and just all around excellent! I use it for afternoon/evening use when my day is winding down rather than starting my day with it. Good one

Tried their White Lightening... euphoric. TFH scored a triple with these three.