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Caleb's Full Spectrum Extract (FSE) Review:

Ordered 30 grams of Caleb's FSE. This powder extract is made using a standard A/B Method (Acid / Base) which usually involves an Ethanol extraction combined with a type of acid, Citric or similar.. There are many recipe's and tek's available on Reddit.. FSE extract is a lot of work and, there are many FINE points to the process, which, can either make it great, or just so-so .. Caleb has years of experience making his FSE! So here's your Benchmark. Get some of this .. Try making your own & compare.

Its his #1 seller, its affordable compared to other extracts, at $1.75 per gram. (or $1.85 depending on quantity, plus Shipping.) So, my 30g was around $60 bucks. Extract is NOT usually taken by itself.. Mix 1 gram of this, along with half my regular 5g dose.. I chose a Super Green for testing. A good FSE will add "bottom", will add pain relief, and definitely add to the overall potency...

BOOM, it kicked in as expected and kept coming on, for at least 1 hour .. with a MUCH more pronounced analgesic effect. Got the warm Fuzzy Blanket feeling, which I normally would not expect on this Super Green .. Mood and Euphoria were higher, a definite buzz that lasted for hours. I usually do my Extract later in the day, 2nd or 3rd dose (I am normally 2 dose a day.) .. So the buzz gives way to a laid back, relaxed & mellow feeling to last the entire evening.

Overall it's recommended.. For me, a special treat. Figure Cost per Dose = $2 so that adds to my 2+ grams plain leaf of .40 cents = Total cost $2.40 compared to my normal 5 gram dose cost = $1. Personally I don't do extract every day, maybe a couple times per week. You need a milligram scale, to measure this. Make your own Enhanced Kratom - here's the stuff you want.

Thanks - I've had quite a few extracts that were nothing. I even made my own. Been looking for the most legit place to order extract from.

Thank you Ballz you the man! ...or Girl?

Idk whatever!
Lol

Anyhoo
Thank you this review is excellent
I am definitely going to get this exact stuff as soon as I can

Would love if Caleb could give me a sample
currently on a job hunt
So moneys tight like a mofo
Ive never tried Extract ...yet!
I will be getting this in next two weeks tho
And it sounds very promising

You got me at... warm fuzzy feeling
Okay okay maybe that and a few other parts but it sounds fkn great!

I trust ya reviews too regardless

Btw here’s an idea
Hear Me Out
I got a tincture bottle of extract from Kraken Kratom
Lmao
Before I learned about all the stuff Ballz emphasizes on about vendors
Etx
Prices
Rip off
Whos what
I got it on sale around Christmas 2018 so still fairly newish haven’t touched the damn thing
It was like $35 maybe less actually
I think one dropper is 11.5g so thats a fkn lot idk ill have to check the bag again or go on Kraken Kratom site and or check my Packing Slip
Id be willing to g!ve this to someone if they’d like just PM haha jk
Or am I?
You decide.


On another note
Again, well done Ballz def grabbing some.

Enjoy and Happy Burning!

Thanks for the heads up,,like you said it's a special treat,,something I'd like to have a few times a week, better than chasing that burn that seems elusive, ya know, in times when you need an extra boost,,also helps make good use out of leaf that just doesn't do it for ya,

ive never tried extracts and think i might check it out now. ive seen different strengths of extracts, is this a fair price for its potency? have you tried stronger types, and if so where is a good place to find it. i might check out calebs stuff and see how it goes , thanks for the review

For months, I was adding half a gram of extract (either my own or KOG) to a normal dose every day - I don’t know for sure if it enhanced my experience - it was just something I was in the habit of doing. Started out a once in awhile thing.

I had heard that extract seriously fucks your tolerance levels, but a couple months ago I just stopped adding it in and lowered my dose by a gram. Didn’t notice a difference. I’m actually enjoying my kratom without extract. I still wanna try Caleb’s, but I think I’m good with just straight kratom for awhile.

Payshince wrote: Kraken Kratom

I wonder how many of us were taken in by Kraken/Phytoextractum before we discovered the good vendors.

Hey to all. Im new here and use Calebs for extracts myself.
Whats everyones experience, if any, with the 100% alkaloid? I use it pretty often and like it better than any other extract I ever tried. Yes, its expensive as hell. But, I threw my hips out again and just refuse tl use rx pain meds again. This 100% kicked that pains ass out the door!
Weird tho, I have seen quite alot of people say it didnt do anything for them? I was baffles because I freakin love it.

Chefbowpro1 wrote:The 100% alkaloid? ... I freakin love it.

Hi Chef thanks for posting here. I'm using Caleb's FSE, and kind of embarrassed to admit I've not tried his 100% Pure alkaloids.. way, way, too expensive for my budget. I have NO doubt,.. it would be fricken fantastic. But I have a few Oxy and Norco's - Thanks to kratom I got over my Norco habit.

I've heard good Reviews for Caleb's pure alks, and Mo Botanicals pure alks.. knowing the chemical process .. This IS a drug, manufactured in a Lab, using raw kratom as base. I am curious.. Are you taking it, as recommended, WITH a small dose of plain leaf?

OR, can you take pure alks, as a stand alone drug with NO other plain leaf? I've heard since its pure Mitragyna, its missing some of the other alkaloids which give kratom its' magic. When I do his FSE, its always added ON to at least a gram or two of good strong kratom powder.

I've heard that Kratom and Cannabis are similar IN THAT - Big Pharma can't produce a drug that gives the same effects. Isolating the Mitra, or the THC.. isn't the same as taking quality Kratom Leaf, or smoking a bowl of top-shelf Bud. Otherwise, there are differences, kratom is alkaloids from leaf, and cannabis is all about terpenes from the flower.

I was reading this thread and decided to try a small amount of the FSE. Thanks for this info, looking forward to mixing a gram in in the evenings on occasion.

I wonder how the pure alks compares to the fse. What is a typical dose of pure alks, in the milligram range? Sounds interesting

I wonder how the pure alks compares to the fse. What is a typical dose of pure alks, in the milligram range? Sounds interesting

You all have me curious about the pure alkaloids. Hmmm... I have FSE, a bunch of Red extract from Kat's and a bit of Green extract from KOG. I use the red the most since I'm a chronic pain warrior. It's a nice boost to add to a white or green during the day.

javagurl62 wrote:

I wonder how the pure alks compares to the fse. What is a typical dose of pure alks, in the milligram range? Sounds interesting

You all have me curious about the pure alkaloids. Hmmm... I have FSE, a bunch of Red extract from Kat's and a bit of Green extract from KOG. I use the red the most since I'm a chronic pain warrior. It's a nice boost to add to a white or green during the day.

I've got Kats "red...crystal?" extract too, it's gotta kick to it, I also have 10 grams of Canopy's extract, it's still sealed, it looks about the same as Kats, it's over a year old though.

Have you tried the gold extract? I heard its crazy potent

The pure alkaloid extract - it is very potent as the name implies and feels a bit different compared to other extracts imo. Warm fuzziness and great pain relief. I have not had any for more than a year, so I don't know about the current situation.
Another thing he offers is that you can order a specific strain to be made into extract.
He definitely knows what he is doing.

Why take two gram instead of the normal five gram dose with extract?

FartBlaster wrote:Why take two gram instead of the normal five gram dose with extract?

This was my exact question when I first bought my 20 or 30 gram of FSE. By the end of the bag, I wondered if if would have been more cost effective to just have bougbt a 250g of decent lratom rather than getting a 10x. I didn't see much benefit even when adding a gram or two of extract with 4 or 5 plain leas ad you're advises to. Just didn't seem worth is. I would be interested in the pire alkaloids just for a gag bur I wouldn't expect much more considering the FSE and the even price. IDK, I could be wrong this dis not do much for.me.

I just put an order in with Caleb's Concentrates. I will post a review here this weekend. I got some FSE, supercritical and full alkaloid. I haven't tried it before and I'm curious about it so I'm going to try this then take a t break because I heard this stuff messes up tolerance.

FartBlaster wrote:I got some FSE, supercritical and full alkaloid. I haven't tried it before ...

Each 1 of those is different and stronger.. you'll love the pure alkaloids, But make sure U use a Milligram Scale

His FSE as I posted in my Review, is good, but I have now made a couple batches of my own kitchen FSE. Nice booster for any time... Co2 Supercritical is a product that's a step above, expensive to make but I'm kind of surprised Caleb's is the only kratom vendor who sells it?

I have a good scale so that's no problem. This extract stuff is just like a treat. Is it difficult to make an extract?

I have a good scale so that's no problem. This extract stuff is just like a treat. Is it difficult to make an extract? I think the supercritical is just a 20x

I tried Mo's "pure Alks" back some time ago...This is a COMPLETLY DIFFERENT Animal...It was freakin' FANTASTIC...I'm sort of glad it's so expensive cause I'd likely have issues with that stuff...I was, and still am amazed at just how good it was...Wish I had the expertise to make that stuff...to even get close using some of the "tons" of ho-hum leaf I got laying around. He uses something different to extract with (forget the name now)?, but it was all a bit over my head.

Anyway, if you ever thought about trying it, shake the Piggy Bank a little harder and get the PURE ALKS...you will see what all the fuss is about...WOW!...makes me want to get some more just talking about it...but it's dry Season, time to hunt down good PLAIN LEAF and stay away from the "hard" stuff

Do you take pure alks by itself or mix it with plain leaf?

FartBlaster wrote:Do you take pure alks by itself or mix it with plain leaf?

I mixed with leaf...but this stuff was full spectrum enough to burn alone...just easier to use adding to a little leaf...a little dab a do ya, for sure...

I choose to go with Caleb's Concentrates over magnus opus because I wanted to try his supercritical c02 extract and there was an option to try the full alkaloid extract at a half gram size for $17 , magnus opus only had a one gram size.
I tried the full alkaloid at 220mg with 5 G of DG premium Green. It didn't really do anything for me, it had great pain relief but no euphoria, no mood boost. It made me sweat a lot. I tried the supercritical c02 with 4 grams of DG red MD. Thus was excellent, great mood boost , got that warm fuzzy blanket feeling. This one made it worth the money. I did 2g to 4g leaf as Caleb suggested a 2:1 ratio mix. I tried the FSE with some DG green Malay 2 G FSE to 4 G leaf. This one was good and seemed to last longer than the others. It wasn't as strong as supercritical but good. I would say extract is better with red Kratom in my opinion. Honestly , extract is not that great and it messes with my tolerance so this was a one time thing. To me it just ruins my experience with plain leaf and isn't that great. Calebs concentrates shipped my order a couple hours after I paid for it . Very cool. Hr answered all my questions in a few hours, awesome customer support. He's a solid vendor if you want extracts.

Extract is some foul tasting shit. Like raisins and dried barf! Blah

FartBlaster wrote:I have a good scale so that's no problem. This extract stuff is just like a treat. Is it difficult to make an extract? I think the supercritical is just a 20x

Extract is a pain in the ass to make - messy and time consuming if you’re doing it in your kitchen. Vendors like Caleb have more appropriate equipment and more elaborate and scientific extraction methods. It makes more sense to buy it. I’ve made extract 3 different times and got about the same results as what I got from KOG, but I only recommend making it yourself for the experience - not to save money.

I had the pure alks yesterday and it worked fantastic! Best burn I've had in a very very long time. I put .280mg
g pure alks in a premium Green and red md blend from DG.

Please please tell me where I can find an extract like Caleb's pure alk! I've tried MO and nothing happens for me. I only take extracts, plain leaf does nothing for me unfortunately.

bea0823 wrote:Please please tell me where I can find an extract like Caleb's pure alk! I've tried MO and nothing happens for me. I only take extracts, plain leaf does nothing for me unfortunately.

Did plain leaf ever work for you? How many vendors/strains did you try?

Never heard of that happening unless tolerance is destroyed....

I have a high tolerance. Used kratom to get off opioids. I've tried several vendors and strains and literally the only thing I've found that helps for pain is calebs pure alkaloid. I wish I could find another vendor that has the same quality as that but no luck!

bea0823 wrote:I have a high tolerance. Used kratom to get off opioids. I've tried several vendors and strains and literally the only thing I've found that helps for pain is calebs pure alkaloid. I wish I could find another vendor that has the same quality as that but no luck!

Honestly.... Kinda just sounds like you need to do a taper/break and then re establish a new lowest possible dosage. It happens to most of us from time to time and no one really likes doing it lol. That would be my best suggestion my friend!

I tried Caleb's FSE and I was disappointed. And yes I did use it with plain leaf. Maybe his pure alks is better, but I was let down by the FSE, especially considering the cost

beathappening wrote:I tried Caleb's FSE and I was disappointed. And yes I did use it with plain leaf. Maybe his pure alks is better, but I was let down by the FSE, especially considering the cost

I actually agree. His FSE didn't do much for me, and I took it the way it is supposed to be taken.
On the other hand his super critical co2 extract worked great.

I've been wanting to try his pure alkaloid extract, but it's been out of stock for months now.
He told me it would be about a week before he re-upped but that was two months ago, lol.

I agree the FSE does nothing for me, I only use his pure alkaloid extract and want to find another vendor that is similar so when he is out I'm not! Lol can't find any anywhere!

Carolina kratom has pure alks