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If you haven't tried lizas red Nanga yet your missing out on the best pain relief yet I tried the green nanga mixed in a little white slippery rock and thougt id found my favorite but now I have to say there's alot to be said for mixing iit up who knew a little green a little white and some red and i found my dream mix.Liza has so many choices and awesome prices plus she always goes out of her way to make sure you have quality every time .So if you havent tried the red and green nanga yet your missing out. And her happy go lucky energy and o and the zombies im definitely a zombie lover

Granny, Granny, Granny...Don't get me started.
I stopped buying, cold turkey, and I've almost went an entire week without making a kratom purchase!
You're making it very difficult not to buy!

instantKARMA wrote:Granny, Granny, Granny...Don't get me started.
I stopped buying, cold turkey, and I've almost went an entire week without making a kratom purchase!
You're making it very difficult not to buy!

Aint that the truth IK! I never bought so much in the off season. I must admit I'm building my stash with some nice leaf but man it's hard to stop. A kilo gets me roughly 50 days @20gm a day so I need just over 7 kilos a year. How many years should I have on hand for the worst case scenario? 3 sounds reasonable. So around a 20 kilo stash makes sense. How is that for some perverted rationalization for pouncing on the fire strains when they come along?

Does anyone have a good email for Liza's? I looked all over the site and didn't see contact info. Hope I'm not missing something obvious

swablero wrote:

instantKARMA wrote:Granny, Granny, Granny...Don't get me started.
I stopped buying, cold turkey, and I've almost went an entire week without making a kratom purchase!
You're making it very difficult not to buy!

Aint that the truth IK! I never bought so much in the off season. I must admit I'm building my stash with some nice leaf but man it's hard to stop. A kilo gets me roughly 50 days @20gm a day so I need just over 7 kilos a year. How many years should I have on hand for the worst case scenario? 3 sounds reasonable. So around a 20 kilo stash makes sense. How is that for some perverted rationalization for pouncing on the fire strains when they come along?

We perverts must stick together! I'm afraid to say how much I have on hand for that "worst case scenario," swablero, but it's entirely possible that my stash might outlive me. However, as soon as things cool off with my "handler," I'll began where I left off! "Perverted rationalization" is my thing too!

beathappening wrote:Does anyone have a good email for Liza's? I looked all over the site and didn't see contact info. Hope I'm not missing something obvious

[email protected]

Payshince wrote:

beathappening wrote:Does anyone have a good email for Liza's? I looked all over the site and didn't see contact info. Hope I'm not missing something obvious

[email protected]

Thank you!

There's a few vendors I want to try next and Liza's at the top

You’re welcome!

Lmk how it goes

Choose wisely

instantKARMA wrote: We perverts must stick together! I'm afraid to say how much I have on hand for that "worst case scenario," swablero, but it's entirely possible that my stash might outlive me. However, as soon as things cool off with my "handler," I'll began where I left off! "Perverted rationalization" is my thing too!

Very funny. I dont want to outlive my stash Hopefully the handler will give you free reign and we'll have the pleasure of your feedback. The crew here on Double M makes it all so much fun. Though it takes discipline not to chase every new shiny leaf that comes along. The tyrany of the adjective.

My friend and I are getting very mediocre results with Liza. I'm almost doubling my dosage. Gonna put her to the side for another time, maybe.

I take a break from lizas for a week,use smileytime usually, then go back, ,I always go back,,but it's more affective after a break,,tolerance thing

Arggggg, ,I haven't tried the nanga strains yet,,I have been on a shopping spree this week,,I wanted to wait to order again, ,GRANNY, ,got me to wondering again, ,argg, I haven't tried the red zombie yet, ,and I am really low on the g nugroz, ,I think I'll toss a coin,hahaha! I just ordered from kraydo the 1st of the week,, but I don't know if that's gonna work for me,,,and just ordered more super green from smileytime, ,,anyhow GRANNY, ,which of those do you find have more mood lift

I ve gotta say the green nugroz for mood lift but I m s zombie lover to the red zombie and red nanga are equal for pain relief now I m turning to mixing to try all the ways it feels this leaf surprises me just when I think I ve found the one I mix it up to a brand new feel seriously loving this leaf

Ive gotta share thus here its what makes Liza THE best.She just mentioned 3 strains that arent up to her standards so she made it very clear that they werent up to her standards and is Dropping the price heres the thing irs good just not great or up to her standards.Who does that?If ever theres a problem she s there..

GrannyJ62 wrote:Ive gotta share thus here its what makes Liza THE best.She just mentioned 3 strains that arent up to her standards so she made it very clear that they werent up to her standards and is Dropping the price heres the thing irs good just not great or up to her standards.Who does that?If ever theres a problem she s there..

Yeah, I just got green Nugroz from Liza's based on what I've read recently and it wasn't what I was expecting, wife didn't get anything from it either that's how I know it wasn't just a tolerance issue.

That's pretty cool she will admit that, a lot of vendors would just bag up the crap and sell it tag price!!...very cool of her, there's a lot of crap out there nowadays.

What strains? I missed that,,,

Give me a top 4 or a top 8 strains.

Just curious, may not be the right place to ask but since you were talking about stalking up... How long until kratom goes bad or expires? If you sit on it too long will it lose it's potency?

Idontknowokokok wrote:Just curious, may not be the right place to ask but since you were talking about stalking up... How long until kratom goes bad or expires? If you sit on it too long will it lose it's potency?

Welcome to the forum!

As far as I know, if you keep it dry it will last for years. At least I hope so, because I have rather a lot of it and was hoping it would last as long as I do (I'm 62).

I keep it in the original bags in snap seal bins with desiccant packets in a relatively cool dim/dark room.

herbalhippie wrote:

Idontknowokokok wrote:Just curious, may not be the right place to ask but since you were talking about stalking up... How long until kratom goes bad or expires? If you sit on it too long will it lose it's potency?

Welcome to the forum!

As far as I know, if you keep it dry it will last for years. At least I hope so, because I have rather a lot of it and was hoping it would last as long as I do (I'm 62).

I keep it in the original bags in snap seal bins with desiccant packets in a relatively cool dim/dark room.

Thank you, I have been reading posts and reviews for awhile now and decided to make an account. Very helpful information.

I have quite a bit stashed away but it's all the kinds I didn't like or didn't work for me. Which unfortunately is a bit.. it's been a struggle to find stuff I really like but every now and then I come across some. Have been trying quite a few new vendors and just ordered from a couple that I saw reviews about here. So waiting to see!!

Placed an order for 10 different strains today - 100g each. She was very nice and helpful and gave me several suggestions for what I was looking for and even asked her fb group about it for their input. Already have a tracking. Top notch customer service. I'll review the strains once I get and have a chance to try them.

I got my order today, ,I got more red sumatra, ,and 4 new ones,dayak and labia, she also threw in a generous sample of yellow Vietnam, ,I haven't got a chance yet to try any of the new strains nor the yellow Vietnam, which she said I will love,, ,,I burned her Happy go lucky with a bit of white zombie before the mail came,,later I am going to try one of new ones,,,I can't believe how fast it got here! I ordered Friday, late,,and it was here today, from California to missouri, ,amazing! ! Has anyone else tried the dayak or labia yet??,

There's a strain called labia?

^ Oletimer! ^

I hope to order Liza’s new
Dayak and Labai
Strains aka new batches soon!

Please update us when you can on those

Which vein colors did you get of the Dayak?
White, Green, Red?

Same with Labai-
W, G, R...


I hope theyre good

Many vendors are stocking these same ones I believe

Her and 2-3 others that Ive seen in the past week are
Maybe from same supplier?



I noticed BB aka Botanical Bunny had all of these two strains and diff veins and now all gone!..

Hm I doubt nobody on this forum (hasn’t) tried them yet !


Enjoy Ole’




And hahaha Labia interesting

Um, did you mean to dyslexic the labai at the end of your post?
Or was that auto-correct like this post just tried to do for me?

And hahaha Labia interesting,,,,,oh heck,,I think I spelled it wrong,,that's a oops,,,that's ,oh my,,,good grief,,

hahahahahaha now there's a name for a kratom strain!

So how are the Dayak and Labai aka "Labia" strains?!

I'm itching to know how they Arrreee!

It's official We All Should from no on convert Labai to "Labia" on this forum!

Sorry Ole' but its just too damn funny. Actually, I'd like to thank you for accidentally aka serendipitously saying that.

I wonder how the White "Labia" is?? Hmm lololoool HA

Sorry Ole' but its just too damn funny. Actually, I'd like to thank you for accidentally aka serendipitously saying that.

I wonder how the White "Labia" is?? Hmm lololoool HA
______________ Thanks for the laugh,I needed that,,,I think my age is showing, ,I knew that word sounded familiar, ,but anyhow I only got the green L, I have tried the red and green dayak,,,,the red is great for pain,,does have mood lift too,,the green, I am still working on that,,the problem is I got 3 orders at same time yesterday, 11 strains and that full spectrum extract from calebs,,!! I'm trying to set that aside for about a week

Payshince wrote:So how are the Dayak and Labai aka "Labia" strains?!

I'm itching to know how they Arrreee!

I just tried the Red Dayak. Honestly, there's not much to it. It was a decent mood lift. It took awhile to come on, and didn't stick around very long. It offered mild pain relief. It smelled good at least.

Last night, I had RHSC. I didn't even feel it. I'm hoping it was because I took it a few hours after eating. My wife said she kinda felt it.