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After reading a review here earlier in the week I decided to give Oties a try. I usually don’t order samples, I research and buy kilos based on what I learn. Most of the time this works for me. So I ordered a split kilo Monday morning.

Communication was excellent, payment went smoothly, and within two hours I had a tracking number in my inbox.

I received my order Thursday morning. The USPS envelope was damaged, it looked like it had been intentionally ripped opened and taped back together which is obviously no fault of Oties but the six Mylar envelopes inside were completely intact.

I received 250 grams of each of the following; White Indo, Super White Maeng Da, Super Red Maeng Da, Red Bali
as well as a sample of Red Bent and Super Green MD. All of these are very fresh, vibrantly colored, and sufficiently potent.

I mixed 6 grams of White Indo with lemon juice for my first dose of the day. I didn’t sleep the night before due to pain so I was pretty low energy and groggy but within 10 minutes I started to feel the first tingling effects which peaked about an hour later in an intense euphoria. Decent legs, 3.5 hours with mild effects lingering an additional hour. IME lemon juice increases intensity while diminishing duration, so I’ll dose this one again after a good nights sleep with out the juice and report back any differences. Regardless this is top notch and I will probably pick up another kilo of it next week.

Potency - 9
Euphoria - 9
Energy - 8
Mood - 6
Pain - 6

White Super MD-6 grams taken with water & lemon juice. I feel like this is a little faster than the Indo, but again it could be a result of my lack of sleep. Great focus with this one.

I take kratom mainly for health issues but I also write electronic music so I look for whites that help me concentrate and make the more tedious aspects of sequencing a little more enjoyable. This strain does that for me.

Potency - 8
Euphoria - 7
Energy - 9
Mood - 6
Pain - 6

Red Bentuangie-5 grams, water & lemon juice. This stuff tastes amazing, very fresh. I don’t mind the taste of kratom as much as a lot of people seem to, and I actually like the taste of this Bent. Excellent pain relief and legs. I fell asleep toward the tail end and stayed asleep for five hours which is as good as it ever gets for me. It would suffice as a daily use pain manager/sleep aid.

Potency - 8
Euphoria - 8
Energy - 5
Mood - 6
Pain - 9

Super Green MD

Every green I’ve ever taken has given me horrible anxiety, so I avoid them but since this was a sample I decided to give it a go. I dosed the whole bag which I’m guessing was six grams, I didn’t weigh it.

Over the course of the next hour it slowly peaked into extreme euphoria and happiness. I sat outside with my mother and daughter and talked for about two hours and it was the best conversation I’ve had with my mother in years. The first hour and a half was pretty fast but it mellowed out and actually provided a fair amount of pain relief. It’s now four hours after I dosed and I still feel euphoric, talkative, happy and a little sleepy.

I must have gotten bad greens in the past. Over the years I’ve tried different green strains from different vendors and never found one that gave any positive effects, so for years I’ve only taken reds, whites, yellow/golds. This is in my top five all time best burns. I’m definitely ordering more next week, it was a game changer.

Potency - 10
Euphoria - 9
Energy - 7
Mood - 10
Pain - 7

I haven’t cracked the seal on the reds yet, but I plan on doing so later tonight or tomorrow and when I do I’ll edit this report.

Thanks for reading and thanks to Oties for the samples, freshness, and quality.

*Edit*
So, the Bali and Super Red are also very good. The Bali seems to have a little more energy, the Super Red MD is a little more Euphoric and both are excellent pain killers. I blend them for a well balanced evening red.

I ordered half a kilo of the Green, a quarter Red Bent, and another quarter of the White Indo. Definitely worth stocking up on this stuff.

Great reviews! I got my first order from him this week as well after sampling a few. That white indo is great. Can’t wait to try that super green. I got that as well. He’s a good dude.

Yes very nice! I asked for some samples and he had a few shipped within hours....all reviews seem excellent, will report when I try them

Got my samples and tried the super green...really liked this one, mid-fast tasted strong and was. Good moodlift and energy, not the longest legs but otherwise enjoyable! 8.4/10

Still have 3 more to try.

tieguanyin wrote:After reading a review here earlier in the week I decided to give Oties a try. I usually don’t order samples, I research and buy kilos based on what I learn. Most of the time this works for me. So I ordered a split kilo Monday morning.

Communication was excellent, payment went smoothly, and within two hours I had a tracking number in my inbox.

I received my order Thursday morning. The USPS envelope was damaged, it looked like it had been intentionally ripped opened and taped back together which is obviously no fault of Oties but the six Mylar envelopes inside were completely intact.

I received 250 grams of each of the following; White Indo, Super White Maeng Da, Super Red Maeng Da, Red Bali
as well as a sample of Red Bent and Super Green MD. All of these are very fresh, vibrantly colored, and sufficiently potent.

I mixed 6 grams of White Indo with lemon juice for my first dose of the day. I didn’t sleep the night before due to pain so I was pretty low energy and groggy but within 10 minutes I started to feel the first tingling effects which peaked about an hour later in an intense euphoria. Decent legs, 3.5 hours with mild effects lingering an additional hour. IME lemon juice increases intensity while diminishing duration, so I’ll dose this one again after a good nights sleep with out the juice and report back any differences. Regardless this is top notch and I will probably pick up another kilo of it next week.

Potency - 9
Euphoria - 9
Energy - 8
Mood - 6
Pain - 6

White Super MD-6 grams taken with water & lemon juice. I feel like this is a little faster than the Indo, but again it could be a result of my lack of sleep. Great focus with this one.

I take kratom mainly for health issues but I also write electronic music so I look for whites that help me concentrate and make the more tedious aspects of sequencing a little more enjoyable. This strain does that for me.

Potency - 8
Euphoria - 7
Energy - 9
Mood - 6
Pain - 6

Red Bentuangie-5 grams, water & lemon juice. This stuff tastes amazing, very fresh. I don’t mind the taste of kratom as much as a lot of people seem to, and I actually like the taste of this Bent. Excellent pain relief and legs. I fell asleep toward the tail end and stayed asleep for five hours which is as good as it ever gets for me. It would suffice as a daily use pain manager/sleep aid.

Potency - 8
Euphoria - 8
Energy - 5
Mood - 6
Pain - 9

Super Green MD

Every green I’ve ever taken has given me horrible anxiety, so I avoid them but since this was a sample I decided to give it a go. I dosed the whole bag which I’m guessing was six grams, I didn’t weigh it.

Over the course of the next hour it slowly peaked into extreme euphoria and happiness. I sat outside with my mother and daughter and talked for about two hours and it was the best conversation I’ve had with my mother in years. The first hour and a half was pretty fast but it mellowed out and actually provided a fair amount of pain relief. It’s now four hours after I dosed and I still feel euphoric, talkative, happy and a little sleepy.

I must have gotten bad greens in the past. Over the years I’ve tried different green strains from different vendors and never found one that gave any positive effects, so for years I’ve only taken reds, whites, yellow/golds. This is in my top five all time best burns. I’m definitely ordering more next week, it was a game changer.

Potency - 10
Euphoria - 9
Energy - 7
Mood - 10
Pain - 7

I haven’t cracked the seal on the reds yet, but I plan on doing so later tonight or tomorrow and when I do I’ll edit this report.

Thanks for reading and thanks to Oties for the samples, freshness, and quality.

Thank you so much for the review. It makes me so happy to come on here and see this. The fact that it made it into your top burns is amazing. I love to hear it. I really look forward to working with you in the future and providing you with consistency

FireK wrote:Got my samples and tried the super green...really liked this one, mid-fast tasted strong and was. Good moodlift and energy, not the longest legs but otherwise enjoyable! 8.4/10

Still have 3 more to try.

Thank you as well firek. This is a reminder as to why I deal with the stress of running this. Lol. The fact that people like you try my product and have good things to say about it is what makes my day.

Thank you!

I have another kilo on the way, really appreciate what you do.

tieguanyin wrote:Thank you so much for the review. It makes me so happy to come on here and see this. The fact that it made it into your top burns is amazing. I love to hear it. I really look forward to working with you in the future and providing you with consistency

Thank you!

I have another split kilo on the way. Really appreciate what you do.[/quote]


It's my pleasure

I read that other thread plugging that YouTube video. Personally I find those replies and demeanor and lack of integrity in that thread has turned me off from ever buying oties. Cringe inducing.

beathappening wrote:I read that other thread plugging that YouTube video. Personally I find those replies and demeanor and lack of integrity in that thread has turned me off from ever buying oties. Cringe inducing.

That's fine. But you should go back to even before that. Every time I've ever posted on here, or had a conversation with someone, that guy started problems with me. Even the post where I introduced myself. If you took the time to go back and see, you probably would have hit me up saying, don't worry that dude is an asshole like EVERYBODY ELSE DID

I even had peoole contact me on other forums, who saw what he does telling me how much of an asshole he is for what he was doing. So before you go and pass judgement, you should investigate completely. I caught shit by him for merely introducing myself. I got compared by him to some pretty horrible companies, all because I had a conversation with someone else about how I plan on being GMP certified soon. That was just one of the things. Out of all the people that read all the times he came out of nowhere, just to attack me, your the one person who said I was wrong. And I did feel wrong at first because I'm a reaaaaaaally nice guy. But when I had people from this forum contact me after seeing it all, tell me I'm not, I knew I wasn'tSo someone stalking a forum, giving me hell everytime I have a simple conversation with someone isn't "cringe worthy" to you? But my response to it, after I took the high road more than once is??? Ok. Well theres not much I can do about that than. Can certainly try to please everyone but it won't work. I learned that a long time ago. Even the people who originally said damn Otie that was kinda harsh, went back and seen why, and now they're singing a different song about it. So I really am sorry you feel that way, but I really hope that if someone is trying to be a bully to you, when your minding your business and speaking to others, that you eventually stand up for yourself.

I'm aware of his behavior, and I don't always agree with the way he approaches certain topics and people, especially vendors. I just think you would have been better off ignoring him instead of engaging in mudslinging.

Aside from that, it's also not a good look to come on a forum to plug your own product, it does come off as advertising. You don't see any other vendors doing that here. Make a vendor listing and leave it at that.

beathappening wrote:I'm aware of his behavior, and I don't always agree with the way he approaches certain topics and people, especially vendors. I just think you would have been better off ignoring him instead of engaging in mudslinging.

How is it I'm supposed to ignore him, when it's everywhere I go. It's not like it happened one time. I literally can't Speak to anyone on double m without it happening. Guaranteed he'll be in here soon to talk more shit.

Click on his username and click Add Foe. You won't have to read his posts. You're also doing more than defending yourself, you're going on the attack and it just looks bad. You're attracting negative attention to yourself rather than proving him wrong. People are allowed to make criticism.
I'm not taking his side, I just think you could learn to handle these situations with more tact.

I didn't know about the add foe and what it does. I'm a really nice person. It's very rare that I get into arguments with anyone. I can ignore easily. I don't care what other people say or think. You're not wrong about ignoring him. It's just kept happening for no reason and I couldn't take it anymore. Should I have lashed back to him. No. Probably not. But I will continue to defend myself against an extremely bored individual who was it out for me. It wasnt just criticism. I can take criticism. That can be constructive. But to make it a point to search for topics I'm apart of and attack me, once, twice, three times....... That takes it beyond mere criticism.

I understand. I can't speak for the other times, but posting a review for your own product really does not look good. I would avoid doing that. Let good reviews come about organically, instead of forcing it. Like I mentioned before, no other vendor does that, and for good reason. It's one thing to get the word out about your website or sales you're having, but leave it up to others to make it known they like you as a vendor, and don't go pointing it out when it does happen. Even bumping your own thread is frowned upon. Just my advice as a consumer.

It wasn't meant to be a weird shitty way to get myself in the light. It was something I was proud of. I guess I put it in the wrong spot. And that was my bad. Still wasn't the first personal attack towards me on his part.