What the heck do they put in OPMS/MIT45

[demafrost]

Sorry if this isn’t the correct forum, happy to move it.

Just curious as I’ve been taking 1 MIT45 shot daily for the past year or so. I’ve been hesitant to go back to plain leaf or even normal extracts because I’m convinced there is stuff in there that is not just kratom. Yesterday I got a package from Wonderland with their 38% extract and for the first time in over a year I didn’t take an MIT shot. The extract worked great and while I’m still uncertain the conversion ratio to the MIT45 shots, I think I was in the ballpark in terms of kratom amount.

Now this afternoon I am feeling my nose run, my body temperature fluctuating and mild sweating. Classic withdrawal signs. It’s not terrible or anything but it’s evident and I don’t believe I am sick so it has to be related to my switch. I might have just taken less than my normal dosage and it’s causing mild wd as i adjust or there is something else in there that is causing me WD. Figured I would ask the board for their opinions. I really want to stop taking MIT due to cost and the concern about what’s in them so if it doesn’t get any worse than this I will likely just ride it out. End goal is to stop extracts completely and go back to lower doses of plain leaf (back to responsible usage) and getting off MIT45 is a huge first step

[Jfish030]

A strong hook and empty pockets.

[BallzDeep9]

A strong hook and empty pockets.

Beat me to it... the Retail "shots" extract products are good, OK, but what Price ??

Just for Fun - I worked out a Cost Comparison between Mit45's Gold "shot" product... and 1 gram of Wonderland 38% Extract powder.

Mit45 - Website Mit34.COM - Claims: ( Each 15ml bottle is loaded with 250mg of our full spectrum extract boasting an impressive 45% Mitragynine content.) - However that's NOT shown on bottle, and it's deceiving... 250mg of Extract - with 45% MIT = a Mitragynine Content of 112mg.

1 bottle Mit45 Gold "shot" = 250mg Total Extract x 45% = 112mg Mitragynine. Equals about 7 to 8 grams of plain Leaf Kratom.

$20 bottle / 8 grams = 2.50 per Gram x $70 per 28 gram 1 ounce... Cost per Ounce = $70 per 1 ounce Kratom. Mit45 sells Kratom for $70 an Ounce. But it's GMP!

Compare: Wonderland's 38% Extract = 380mg Mit per Gram. / 112 = 3.4 -- I get 3.4 Mit45 bottles - for EACH 1 Gram of Wonderland costing $8.

COST for same # Mitragynine ?? Wonderland $2.35 -- Mit45 $20.00 // Cost per Month = 30 days: (1 "shot" bottle per day): MIT45 = $600. Wonderland = $70.

[BallzDeep9]

Update: "Mit GO Black" Kratom Gel - by MIT45.

Yes! Not extract Powder. Not an extract "shot" this is ... a Gel. It's a Gel Packet contains a water soluble, great tasting, orange Gel that packs a punch 150mg "Mitragyna Extract" doesn't exactly say how much of the alkaloid, Mitragynine ? - Sure feels strong to me. I get about 4 servings per Packet. Mixes in soda - unline many or most Extract products which Do Not mix!! As you can see, it's got good stuff like Cinnamon & Honey - and it's stronger than regular MIT45 shots - Take this along with 1 gram Plain Leaf powder. T+W your gram, then mix a drink using Tea, Energy Drink, whatever your taste!

I guess if you wanted to Exact Measure, dump the whole packet into Distilled Water, in glass bottle & store in fridge for easy serving. Should keep for weeks in fridge. Cost, List Price $20 but that's the ripoff head-shop Price - online it's $15 and iirc Wonderland sells for $12. Here's a handy page from Legal Herb Shoppe, not recommending LHS just using their website to show product -- https://legalherbalshop.com/product/mit ... t45-14-4g/

[demafrost]

A strong hook and empty pockets.

Beat me to it... the Retail "shots" extract products are good, OK, but what Price ??

Just for Fun - I worked out a Cost Comparison between Mit45's Gold "shot" product... and 1 gram of Wonderland 38% Extract powder.

Mit45 - Website Mit34.COM - Claims: ( Each 15ml bottle is loaded with 250mg of our full spectrum extract boasting an impressive 45% Mitragynine content.) - However that's NOT shown on bottle, and it's deceiving... 250mg of Extract - with 45% MIT = a Mitragynine Content of 112mg.

1 bottle Mit45 Gold "shot" = 250mg Total Extract x 45% = 112mg Mitragynine. Equals about 7 to 8 grams of plain Leaf Kratom.

$20 bottle / 8 grams = 2.50 per Gram x $70 per 28 gram 1 ounce... Cost per Ounce = $70 per 1 ounce Kratom. Mit45 sells Kratom for $70 an Ounce. But it's GMP!

Compare: Wonderland's 38% Extract = 380mg Mit per Gram. / 112 = 3.4 -- I get 3.4 Mit45 bottles - for EACH 1 Gram of Wonderland costing $8.

COST for same # Mitragynine ?? Wonderland $2.35 -- Mit45 $20.00 // Cost per Month = 30 days: (1 "shot" bottle per day): MIT45 = $600. Wonderland = $70.

Hmm Ive always been under the impression that 1 bottle of MIT Gold is equivalent to 14g of plain leaf Kratom. Perhaps I was taking the number of g on the bottle and assuming it was all mit, and not 45%.

This really messes with my head because I assumed my current daily dose was 18 gpd, but according to you it’s only 11 gpd?

Damn. And now I’ve probably jacked up my tolerance by trying to take the equivalent of wonderlands extract lol