Quitting Cold Turkey

[KratomAdvocateMO]

I take an insane amouny of kratom daily and am wanting to quit more then anything. Atleast take a break. Any suggestions. The longest i have went without in over a year is a day. I need help dealing with the anxiety and restless leg stuff. I just get down and think that things are bad when they arent and it drives me crazy

[Babel-17]

There are lots of alternative herbs and whatnot that people take.

I like Ginger root extract powder, black seed oil, Agmatine, Skullcap extract, Passion Flower extract, Valerian root extract, Theanine, Magnesium, Incarvillea Sinesis, Stem and Vein, Javanica, Hirsuta, and some exotic stuff as well.

Lol, never all at once! But they're there so as to be used as needed so as to help keep me content with lower sized amounts of Kratom, and they can really help on days off from taking Kratom.

There's a long thread here about Palmitoylethanolamide you might want to look at.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3153&p=28710

[herbalhippie]

Can you taper down? Even just a little bit every dose. Tiny baby steps. It might take longer, but should be less uncomfortable. I can drop my doses by a quarter gram and not even notice it. Dropping your doses by a quarter gram every couple days for however long it takes until you feel you can handle taking a break.

[beathappening]

I posted this elsewhere, but give the Thomas recipe a chance. It was originally formulated for people detoxing from opiates but it has a lot in common with kratom with similar symptoms and treatments

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[CatfatherB]

I know if I had to quit I'd stock up on Gabapentin, I usually dose 2-3 doses a day but on days I only do only one dose, I substitute with gabapentin and barely even notice.

Be warned though...don't take Gabapentin on a regular basis cuz it's got withdrawals of its on...

[demafrost]

I know if I had to quit I'd stock up on Gabapentin, I usually dose 2-3 doses a day but on days I only do only one dose, I substitute with gabapentin and barely even notice.

Be warned though...don't take Gabapentin on a regular basis cuz it's got withdrawals of its on...

If you can't get a script, I find Phenibut to have very similar effects and helps with W/Ds for me and it can be legally purchased over the internet in the US

But like Gabapentin, definitely can build a dependence very fast so I'd use it sparingly and only during the acute effects.

[FartBlaster]

Phenibut will get rid of the RLS but it is really addictive. I wouldn't take it more than once or twice