strongest pain relief strain?

[nomo]

i have pretty severe crohn's disease and use kratom for pain relief>opiates/painkillers so i like to have one strain around at least strictly for that. That has been maha kali from HS but very expensive and heard it ruins tolerance..

[Damen ck]

Anything strong and opiate like strain will ruin your tolerance. Other wise, buy some samples of different vendors reds. All strains treat each person differently, there really isn't any strain that 100% of people love. You just have to shop around to find something that works for you individually.

If you're looking for euphoria or opiate like effects, go with opiates. Kratom isn't a substitute for harder drugs, like Suboxone or methadone is. It should be looked at as more of a supplement. Imo.

[acejestyr15]

i have pretty severe crohn's disease and use kratom for pain relief>opiates/painkillers so i like to have one strain around at least strictly for that. That has been maha kali from HS but very expensive and heard it ruins tolerance.. So i ask what is the strongest and most opiate-like strains you have found from any vendor?

Yeah and not for nothing.... But using terminology like "opiate like" or "narcotic" is really not a good look for our community. There are much better ways to find strains that provide "pain relief, sedation, warmth, euphoria" and so on! As well, like was said if you are looking for something that strong you may not be able to find what you're looking for in any kinda of kratom honestly...at very least I'd refrain from using the states terminology in the future, please.

[BallzDeep9]

That has been maha kali from HS but very expensive and heard it ruins tolerance ...

yeah U learn "strains" are BS... only batches and colors. NOT strains and veins

HS Maha Kali is a enhanced product. Not a "strain".. Enhanced kratom is made by mixing a strong extract in with powder. Read their site/ fine print carefully, Viable Solutions they tell U up front it's blended with extract. Yes that'll tweak your tolerance real bad.

Nice for a couple days? But you need something long-term. Don't blow out your mu opioid receptors, and suddenly kratom stops working... Always leave some headroom there. Always take a little LESS kratom. For chronic pain, U should look into 3 things: Agmatine Sulfate/. Cats Claw / Black Seed Oil.

Those supplements can really improve your pain relief!! I cycle the Agmatine for 5 days only at night. Lowers my dose of kratom!! (Makes a Low dose feel stronger.) But.. I hear those with pain, use the Agmatine almost every day. I still think it's better taken at night. Cats Claw also. BSO is another pain reliever ... Search Reddit r/kratom for all those.

A 4th choice? Get some real quality CBD. Man this stuff helps ya sleep.. Also works as combo w/ kratom.

[nomo]

i have pretty severe crohn's disease and use kratom for pain relief>opiates/painkillers so i like to have one strain around at least strictly for that. That has been maha kali from HS but very expensive and heard it ruins tolerance.. So i ask what is the strongest and most opiate-like strains you have found from any vendor?

Yeah and not for nothing.... But using terminology like "opiate like" or "narcotic" is really not a good look for our community. There are much better ways to find strains that provide "pain relief, sedation, warmth, euphoria" and so on! As well, like was said if you are looking for something that strong you may not be able to find what you're looking for in any kinda of kratom honestly...at very least I'd refrain from using the states terminology in the future, please.

i mean i did say pain relief and that i use that as a substitute like many people do... shouldn't be scared of a word if it is the truth but will do in the future

[nomo]

That has been maha kali from HS but very expensive and heard it ruins tolerance ...

yeah U learn "strains" are BS... only batches and colors. NOT strains and veins

HS Maha Kali is a enhanced product. Not a "strain".. Enhanced kratom is made by mixing a strong extract in with powder. Read their site/ fine print carefully, Viable Solutions they tell U up front it's blended with extract. Yes that'll tweak your tolerance real bad.

Nice for a couple days? But you need something long-term. Don't blow out your mu opioid receptors, and suddenly kratom stops working... Always leave some headroom there. Always take a little LESS kratom. For chronic pain, U should look into 3 things: Agmatine Sulfate/. Cats Claw / Black Seed Oil.

Those supplements can really improve your pain relief!! I cycle the Agmatine for 5 days only at night. Lowers my dose of kratom!! (Makes a Low dose feel stronger.) But.. I hear those with pain, use the Agmatine almost every day. I still think it's better taken at night. Cats Claw also. BSO is another pain reliever ... Search Reddit r/kratom for all those.

A 4th choice? Get some real quality CBD. Man this stuff helps ya sleep.. Also works as combo w/ kratom.

yeah i did see they add extract if it doesn't test up to level. that along with it being more pricey is why i'm here. thanks for taking the time to actually help i will definitely check all that out

[acejestyr15]

i have pretty severe crohn's disease and use kratom for pain relief>opiates/painkillers so i like to have one strain around at least strictly for that. That has been maha kali from HS but very expensive and heard it ruins tolerance.. So i ask what is the strongest and most opiate-like strains you have found from any vendor?

Yeah and not for nothing.... But using terminology like "opiate like" or "narcotic" is really not a good look for our community. There are much better ways to find strains that provide "pain relief, sedation, warmth, euphoria" and so on! As well, like was said if you are looking for something that strong you may not be able to find what you're looking for in any kinda of kratom honestly...at very least I'd refrain from using the states terminology in the future, please.

i mean i did say pain relief and that i use that as a substitute like many people do... shouldn't be scared of a word if it is the truth but will do in the future

I myself, and we as a community don't care so much.... But unfortunately FDA and DEA can always be watching and reading and that's exactly what they wanna see to use against us. So, we try to do what we can to be cautious and cover our backs the best we can is all, not that big of a deal. We have to play as smart as we can while all these possible bans are being fought and such!!!

[nomo]

I myself, and we as a community don't care so much.... But unfortunately FDA and DEA can always be watching and reading and that's exactly what they wanna see to use against us. So, we try to do what we can to be cautious and cover our backs the best we can is all, not that big of a deal. We have to play as smart as we can while all these possible bans are being fought and such!!!

understood but aren't the testimonies of people beating addiction/opiate use with kratom (not my case) one of the main reasons it also has been delayed from being banned? (ik that's the reason it was targeted in the first place but still)

[Spencemastaflex]

I don't think the OP was comparing it to opiates. I understand the reasoning for wanting to minimize the use of that word in our community but I believe he was saying he wanted a good kratom strain so that he wouldn't have to resort to opiates. Just my thought.

[acejestyr15]

I myself, and we as a community don't care so much.... But unfortunately FDA and DEA can always be watching and reading and that's exactly what they wanna see to use against us. So, we try to do what we can to be cautious and cover our backs the best we can is all, not that big of a deal. We have to play as smart as we can while all these possible bans are being fought and such!!!

understood but aren't the testimonies of people beating addiction/opiate use with kratom (not my case) one of the main reasons it also has been delayed from being banned? (ik that's the reason it was targeted in the first place but still)

That's not all that was said tho....it wasn't just a testimonial hence why I mentioned. Even the title in and of itself "strongest opiate like strain" will be very easily and conveniently taken the wrong way by those outside entities. My thoughts are and were better safe than sorry is all! This wasn't anything worth getting defensive over honestly, nor was it supposed to spark any kinda of debate/argument. Was merely a simple suggestion on how to keep the Kratom community especially doubleM safe and running smoothly as always. Sorry if it wasn't how you intended the post and it was taken the wrong way.... But it's how it reads and sounds. Thanks for understanding, hope you have a great night!!

[nomo]

I don't think the OP was comparing it to opiates. I understand the reasoning for wanting to minimize the use of that word in our community but I believe he was saying he wanted a good kratom strain so that he wouldn't have to resort to opiates. Just my thought.

thanks brother thought it was pretty clear what i meant and was trying to get at. didn't know people on here would tell me to go straight to opiates lmfao i made one post about euphoria that had nothing to do with this thread at all or what i normally use for pain bc i see people on here raving about greens and whites (i have never used) i will be more careful with words in the future i guess

[adomako]

I am also curious what people are using for pain. I also have severe Crohn's and I just recently discovered kratom so I can't be a lot of help to you. I've been down the opiate road and it is not something I EVER want to repeat!! So far, kratom has been very good to me, the best strain I have tried that produced effects like you are looking for was red Sumatra. Also mixing some kind of white I had 50-50 with the red gave me good pain relief without as much drowsiness. Sorry I can't help you more just keep searching online I know lots of people use kratom for pain relief with great results. Not sure why you're not getting more positive replies on here, but it is the internet lol. I truly believe kratom can help improve quality of life for people like us

[nomo]

I am also curious what people are using for pain. I also have severe Crohn's and I just recently discovered kratom so I can't be a lot of help to you. I've been down the opiate road and it is not something I EVER want to repeat!! So far, kratom has been very good to me, the best strain I have tried that produced effects like you are looking for was red Sumatra. Also mixing some kind of white I had 50-50 with the red gave me good pain relief without as much drowsiness. Sorry I can't help you more just keep searching online I know lots of people use kratom for pain relief with great results. Not sure why you're not getting more positive replies on here, but it is the internet lol. I truly believe kratom can help improve quality of life for people like us

Thanks my friend sorry you have to deal with that also. Maha Kali from Viable/HS has been a godsend for me pain-wise the past few years but like mentioned, sometimes has added extract that will ruin tolerance. I just tried Red Muna and Wild Crafted Heavy Red from TFH last month and it was comparable or even better while being cheaper (and cleaner i'm sure) so i would start there while they are still taking orders. I have more red muna, super red sunda and a slow green coming tomorrow to try. Still have many other vendors on my list to try that i have found on here also.

[acejestyr15]

I am also curious what people are using for pain. I also have severe Crohn's and I just recently discovered kratom so I can't be a lot of help to you. I've been down the opiate road and it is not something I EVER want to repeat!! So far, kratom has been very good to me, the best strain I have tried that produced effects like you are looking for was red Sumatra. Also mixing some kind of white I had 50-50 with the red gave me good pain relief without as much drowsiness. Sorry I can't help you more just keep searching online I know lots of people use kratom for pain relief with great results. Not sure why you're not getting more positive replies on here, but it is the internet lol. I truly believe kratom can help improve quality of life for people like us

Thanks my friend sorry you have to deal with that also. Maha Kali from Viable/HS has been a godsend for me pain-wise the past few years but like mentioned, sometimes has added extract that will ruin tolerance. I just tried Red Muna and Wild Crafted Heavy Red from TFH last month and it was comparable or even better while being cheaper (and cleaner i'm sure) so i would start there while they are still taking orders. I have more red muna, super red sunda and a slow green coming tomorrow to try. Still have many other vendors on my list to try that i have found on here also.

FYI nomo and adomako it's the job of MOD's here to keep things running smoothly and properly....I made the comments that I did for the good of the entire community. We are all here to help one another and to provide info. It's not that you didn't receive positive replies it's just that there were some concerns and criticisms as to phrasing and such is all. I and everyone here are more than happy to help you both find pain relief! In fact, I myself am an ex opiate abuser and chronic pain patient so I can totally relate to the struggles. As I said before, was merely pointing out issues that can spell trouble, and making some constructive criticism for future reference is all. Certainly hope you both can understand where I and others are coming from, and hang around to enjoy this great community we all love so much.... This place is one big family, you'll see!! And as far as good strains for pain control I def agree go with TFH while they are still open!!
Wild crafted heavy red is slow
Will crafted green Borneo-slow
Deep Jungle sula green -mid fast
Deep Jungle sula red -mid slow to slow
Deep Jungle aceh -mid slow
Deep jungle MD -slooooooww lol
Wild crafted rocket red - mid to mid fast
Red MD -slow
Classic red md- slow

Please let me know if there's anything else you need help with, whether here or if you want feel free to shoot me a PM!!

[adomako]

I understand 100 percent where you are coming from especially when you put it like that . Thanks for the suggestions

[acejestyr15]

Anytime, welcome to doubleM!!!

[zachdank]

Red vein Boreono from SOSA has been handling pain issues for me the last few weeks. Better than any leaf ive ever tried. Pain is the number one reason i use kratom. After 20 years of being a professional athlete for a living ive broken more bones, had more surgeries and more head trauma than most humans could live through and still be functioning. SOSAs reds in general have done miracles for managing my pain. They can be overwhelmingly sedative tho. When i cant afford to be tired, ill mix SOSAs reds with a killer green from one of the many top shelf Green vendors. Lately my favorite combo to combat severe pain yet still be able to get a lot done is 2/3rd SOSAs Red Boreono 1/3rd D-615 GreenFire. One of the best combos ive ever had.

[nomo]

FYI nomo and adomako it's the job of MOD's here to keep things running smoothly and properly....I made the comments that I did for the good of the entire community. We are all here to help one another and to provide info. It's not that you didn't receive positive replies it's just that there were some concerns and criticisms as to phrasing and such is all. I and everyone here are more than happy to help you both find pain relief! In fact, I myself am an ex opiate abuser and chronic pain patient so I can totally relate to the struggles. As I said before, was merely pointing out issues that can spell trouble, and making some constructive criticism for future reference is all. Certainly hope you both can understand where I and others are coming from, and hang around to enjoy this great community we all love so much.... This place is one big family, you'll see!! And as far as good strains for pain control I def agree go with TFH while they are still open!!
Wild crafted heavy red is slow
Will crafted green Borneo-slow
Deep Jungle sula green -mid fast
Deep Jungle sula red -mid slow to slow
Deep Jungle aceh -mid slow
Deep jungle MD -slooooooww lol
Wild crafted rocket red - mid to mid fast
Red MD -slow
Classic red md- slow

Please let me know if there's anything else you need help with, whether here or if you want feel free to shoot me a PM!!

np i plan on being here awhile just a misunderstanding thanks for sharing this list

[nomo]

Red vein Boreono from SOSA has been handling pain issues for me the last few weeks. Better than any leaf ive ever tried. Pain is the number one reason i use kratom. After 20 years of being a professional athlete for a living ive broken more bones, had more surgeries and more head trauma than most humans could live through and still be functioning. SOSAs reds in general have done miracles for managing my pain. They can be overwhelmingly sedative tho. When i cant afford to be tired, ill mix SOSAs reds with a killer green from one of the many top shelf Green vendors. Lately my favorite combo to combat severe pain yet still be able to get a lot done is 2/3rd SOSAs Red Boreono 1/3rd D-615 GreenFire. One of the best combos ive ever had.

i'm planning on trying SOSA next i think. heard nothing but great things about them and the baik bali. probably will try that and the borneo based on this.. thanks!

[vesku88]

Red vein Boreono from SOSA has been handling pain issues for me the last few weeks. Better than any leaf ive ever tried. Pain is the number one reason i use kratom. After 20 years of being a professional athlete for a living ive broken more bones, had more surgeries and more head trauma than most humans could live through and still be functioning. SOSAs reds in general have done miracles for managing my pain. They can be overwhelmingly sedative tho. When i cant afford to be tired, ill mix SOSAs reds with a killer green from one of the many top shelf Green vendors. Lately my favorite combo to combat severe pain yet still be able to get a lot done is 2/3rd SOSAs Red Boreono 1/3rd D-615 GreenFire. One of the best combos ive ever had.

i'm planning on trying SOSA next i think. heard nothing but great things about them and the baik bali. probably will try that and the borneo based on this.. thanks!

Did you get your order from him?

I've tried to order from Sosa but he kinda just disappeared after I requested a bunch of sample strains. Was gonna send me on Tuesday but never heard back from him. Is this normal???? So bummed because I've read amazing things about his strains. Donno what happened.

[CatfatherB]

Red vein Boreono from SOSA has been handling pain issues for me the last few weeks. Better than any leaf ive ever tried. Pain is the number one reason i use kratom. After 20 years of being a professional athlete for a living ive broken more bones, had more surgeries and more head trauma than most humans could live through and still be functioning. SOSAs reds in general have done miracles for managing my pain. They can be overwhelmingly sedative tho. When i cant afford to be tired, ill mix SOSAs reds with a killer green from one of the many top shelf Green vendors. Lately my favorite combo to combat severe pain yet still be able to get a lot done is 2/3rd SOSAs Red Boreono 1/3rd D-615 GreenFire. One of the best combos ive ever had.

i'm planning on trying SOSA next i think. heard nothing but great things about them and the baik bali. probably will try that and the borneo based on this.. thanks!

Did you get your order from him?

I've tried to order from Sosa but he kinda just disappeared after I requested a bunch of sample strains. Was gonna send me on Tuesday but never heard back from him. Is this normal???? So bummed because I've read amazing things about his strains. Donno what happened.

I don't know why he just don't take that off his menu..not a whole lot of quality vendors still offer them, if I were you I'd check the posts here for what people are saying is good and order a 100 gram bag of it, if it's not to your liking it can and will trade in the trading post?

[vesku88]

Red vein Boreono from SOSA has been handling pain issues for me the last few weeks. Better than any leaf ive ever tried. Pain is the number one reason i use kratom. After 20 years of being a professional athlete for a living ive broken more bones, had more surgeries and more head trauma than most humans could live through and still be functioning. SOSAs reds in general have done miracles for managing my pain. They can be overwhelmingly sedative tho. When i cant afford to be tired, ill mix SOSAs reds with a killer green from one of the many top shelf Green vendors. Lately my favorite combo to combat severe pain yet still be able to get a lot done is 2/3rd SOSAs Red Boreono 1/3rd D-615 GreenFire. One of the best combos ive ever had.

Did you get your order from him?

I've tried to order from Sosa but he kinda just disappeared after I requested a bunch of sample strains. Was gonna send me on Tuesday but never heard back from him. Is this normal???? So bummed because I've read amazing things about his strains. Donno what happened.

I don't know why he just don't take that off his menu..not a whole lot of quality vendors still offer them, if I were you I'd check the posts here for what people are saying is good and order a 100 gram bag of it, if it's not to your liking it can and will trade in the trading post?

What would you recommend?

[Spriteremix]

Haven't had SOSAs but my go to for any vendor is Green Malaysian.