tea time botanicals stem n vein

[Mean Malay]

works horribly for me. I've only tried soflo stem and vein which worked amazingly, then switching to tea time was pathetic. has anyone had good experiences with them?

[CatfatherB]

What do you mean it did horrible? Isn't that why people take it, for T breaks without withdrawal?

[Mean Malay]

What do you mean it did horrible? Isn't that why people take it, for T breaks without withdrawal?

stem n vein is it's own kind of feeling in and of itself. it feels less "dirty" and more relaxing and sustainable than most kratom i find if that can relate to you. Kratom started to feel dirty to me because of my tolerance and i've been getting adverse effects from it, but stem n vein evened me out without going through withdrawal. At least SoFlo's did. When i ordered tea times, it wasn't the same tannish color, it didn't have any noticeable effect, and it seemed inferior to SoFlo's stem n vein.

[BallzDeep9]

... switching to tea time was pathetic. has anyone had good experiences with them?

there are easily > 100 online kratom vendors. These guys, Tea Time, have a Facebook following but.. well, lets say if you like goofy floor sweeping blends? Thats their main thing. On the new website, Tea Time explains:

We at Tea Time Botanicals take safety very seriously. We, like most vendors, purchase vein colors instead of strains. For Example: White Vein, Green Vein & Red Vein. From those colors we mix each strain.

OR in other words, they don't have ANY kratom "strains" as a product of Indonesia - they buy: 1 Red, 1 green, 1 white - To buy from Indo in cheaper bulk, they import huge quantity of bulk plantation leaf. Those 100+ "strains" listed on the website are... Fake. I mean they're basically telling you right on the website - it's just Average kratom. Give 'em points for being honest!! https://www.teatimebotanical.com/labs/

Most consumers around here, prefer Indo blend "small batch" products, to include wild harvest, from Indo sources who know their Quality.

[Mean Malay]

... switching to tea time was pathetic. has anyone had good experiences with them?

there are easily > 100 online kratom vendors. These guys, Tea Time, have a Facebook following but.. well, lets say if you like goofy floor sweeping blends? Thats their main thing. On the new website, Tea Time explains:

We at Tea Time Botanicals take safety very seriously. We, like most vendors, purchase vein colors instead of strains. For Example: White Vein, Green Vein & Red Vein. From those colors we mix each strain.

OR in other words, they don't have ANY kratom "strains" as a product of Indonesia - they buy: 1 Red, 1 green, 1 white - To buy from Indo in cheaper bulk, they import huge quantity of bulk plantation leaf. Those 100+ "strains" listed on the website are... Fake. I mean they're basically telling you right on the website - it's just Average kratom. Give 'em points for being honest!! https://www.teatimebotanical.com/labs/

Most consumers around here, prefer Indo blend "small batch" products, to include wild harvest, from Indo sources who know their Quality.

jesus fucking christ, i've been recommended so much BS from that other place that I'm kinda pissed off at the sink hole of money invested by such trite

See? I know when something is OFF. When i'd explain how i felt about whatever was off at the other place, they'd just give me the "it works fine for me, everybody has different body chem" bs explanation but i didn't buy it for certain things. Especially when i've legitimately tried actual GOOD stem and vein and then tried TWO different kinds of tea times and got a very lowly "meh" effect that made me feel slightly weird.

[Babel-17]

I have stem and vein from Otie's, Soflo, and Team Time (three colors from Tea Time). Soflo's S&V looks identical to Tea Time's White. Otie's S&V is green, and doesn't have me thinking of calling it "bones" which is one way that gets S&V gets described. But it is every bit as dense as the other S&V that I have.

All of them work about the same. Tea Time Botanicals also offers Hirsuta and Javanica, and their Hirsuta was reputed to me as being surprisingly potent. I sometimes take small amounts of it in a blend with regular Kratom.

I never got any bad Kratom from them, and I think I'd immediately know if it was, given how I space out my servings. Their Sandman blend taken as my last burn of the day really helps in getting a restful sleep.

[Siegebruce]

Doesn't STH have or used to have a legitimate stem and vein? I know herbal rva has it but it seems like it still has a lot of leaf in it.

[BallzDeep9]

Doesn't STH have or used to have a legitimate stem and vein? I know herbal rva has it but it seems like it still has a lot of leaf in it.

haha I was literally reading 2 posts above and thinking about "Smiley's Pure Stem & Vein".. great minds think alike. Yes. STH S+V product is or was, Legit (my batch was a year ago.) .. Smiley is legit, knows his product, and would be a good source!! His is more like pure bones. Not a whole lot of "vein" or leaf in there lol..

I came around to respect Otie's Botanicals, a young vendor who try's many new products.. Good for him. Not a fan of Hirsuta or Javanica .. I read a lot, and aside from placebo, can't find where those do anything? Hirsuta "potent" ? hmm. To me.. that is from Indo's trying to sell product. Fine. Since there's no Mitragynine in there, I have no interest!

Back to Tea Time, yeah... Vendor Blends. Kind of a Facebook Thing ?? I remember like 2 years ago Andrew from Herbaldom saying, wOw look at these guys on FB selling "Purple Unicorn" etc. what's their secret formula.. Dump your leftover bunk in a big pile and give it a funny name?

[Mean Malay]

Doesn't STH have or used to have a legitimate stem and vein? I know herbal rva has it but it seems like it still has a lot of leaf in it.

haha I was literally reading 2 posts above and thinking about "Smiley's Pure Stem & Vein".. great minds think alike. Yes. STH S+V product is or was, Legit (my batch was a year ago.) .. Smiley is legit, knows his product, and would be a good source!! His is more like pure bones. Not a whole lot of "vein" or leaf in there lol..

I came around to respect Otie's Botanicals, a young vendor who try's many new products.. Good for him. Not a fan of Hirsuta or Javanica .. I read a lot, and aside from placebo, can't find where those do anything? Hirsuta "potent" ? hmm. To me.. that is from Indo's trying to sell product. Fine. Since there's no Mitragynine in there, I have no interest!

Back to Tea Time, yeah... Vendor Blends. Kind of a Facebook Thing ?? I remember like 2 years ago Andrew from Herbaldom saying, wOw look at these guys on FB selling "Purple Unicorn" etc. what's their secret formula.. Dump your leftover bunk in a big pile and give it a funny name?

Yes, I actually just tried smiley time s&v and It is legit! I’ve also had the same experiences with blends. I never could verbalize it, but they always sucked and never worked for me. I’ve subconsciously avoided them. We same to have the same experiences, so I’ll put a hint of trust in you I also bought that hirsuta from Benni I believe but never tried it yet. I’ve heard it was bs but will report back when I see for myself. Thanks for the honest knowledge.