Question with tolerance/vendors

[Cbest011]

I was wondering if I have a lot of different strains from one vendor, would I grow tolerant of them all? I cycle through different ones every day, never taking the same strain within the week. I’ve read on here that it’s always good to rotate strains, vendors etc.
I seem to not be getting much of an effect and wondered if it’s cause I use the same two vendors strains each week.

But like I said I have a large selection so I take different kinds each time, but it’s the same vendor (TFH). I incorporate Luckys in there but I only have 3 strains of theirs. I just have a whole lot of TFH and cycle through them. I don’t have a crazy high tolerance either but it’s something that I’ve noticed occurring this past two weeks

Thanks!

[fusedflora]

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4646&p=45185#p45185

Some thoughts on rotation there... Chris uses different farms, harvests, and areas, so you're likely good, but just providing you the information for you to discuss with him. Perhaps the ones you have are too similar, perhaps not, you'll have to ask them.

EDIT: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4867&p=47052#p47052

Also a good one to understand some of what I'm talking about there.

[Fallguy]

I used only TFH GMD for 6 months without increasing dose and always got a good burn. Lately I'm rotating THF greens and I feel like the burn is hit or miss. Strain doesn't seem to matter they all burn just not constant. Also for me taking a lower dose now and again seems to hit hard. The more experience and knowledge I gain the more dumbfounded I get. The marvelous mysterious
leaf.

[brave777]

NUMBER 1# Issue is how often you you dose and how much. If done correctly you will always feel it. Over kill it and the magic is done. Sure you might feel great awesome few times but why not take a break after that? Also rotating vendors helps too, it does gives break 2-3 days from your main fav batch when you use another vendor fav batch. Its like some of the alkaloids reset and you feel it better when you go back to your other main batch. But if done correctly with how much you dose and how often then in theory you should always feel it. How much to dose and and how often should be always in everyone's head. Just think of an Angel next to your ear telling you this, and if you feel ok, no wd's , EXTEND your time... If have to feel a little of WD's. The next burn will turn into fire.. If dosed a lot, you can even get lost and not understand what you suppose to feel since your always in that Zone where your receptors need some water.

[TheStanman]

My experience is that rotating vendors is important in addition to rotating strains/batches. As Fused said, in theory if they have wide range of suppliers/farms it shouldn't matter much but for some reason I feel like it does. Might just be in my head though.

[mitragy9]

My experience is that rotating vendors is important in addition to rotating strains/batches. As Fused said, in theory if they have wide range of suppliers/farms it shouldn't matter much but for some reason I feel like it does. Might just be in my head though.

I've gotten better effects sticking with 1 strain for a couple of days or a week. I'm guessing because the same alkaloids begin to build up leading to more in your body probably bad for tolerance long term though. Switching strains/vendors constantly never did it for me. OP maybe try sticking with the same strain for a couple of days I get better effects like this than switching strains all the time.

[Jestrice2002]

My experience is that rotating vendors is important in addition to rotating strains/batches. As Fused said, in theory if they have wide range of suppliers/farms it shouldn't matter much but for some reason I feel like it does. Might just be in my head though.

I've gotten better effects sticking with 1 strain for a couple of days or a week. I'm guessing because the same alkaloids begin to build up leading to more in your body probably bad for tolerance long term though. Switching strains/vendors constantly never did it for me. OP maybe try sticking with the same strain for a couple of days I get better effects like this than switching strains all the time.

That's a good point. Interesting...

[Greyfeather]

My experience is that rotating vendors is important in addition to rotating strains/batches. As Fused said, in theory if they have wide range of suppliers/farms it shouldn't matter much but for some reason I feel like it does. Might just be in my head though.

I've gotten better effects sticking with 1 strain for a couple of days or a week. I'm guessing because the same alkaloids begin to build up leading to more in your body probably bad for tolerance long term though. Switching strains/vendors constantly never did it for me. OP maybe try sticking with the same strain for a couple of days I get better effects like this than switching strains all the time.

Same here. I'll even use the same 'strain' for a few weeks. I wish I had some 'science' to explain my choice. Like mitragy9, using something different every day didn't work for me (just like blending more than 2 different types doesn't work). It seems I need a few days to actually get the full benefits from any given strain anyway.

[TheStanman]

To clarify, I actually agree about having some continuity in strains and getting better effects. I posted a thread on my experience with 'acclimation' a while back. Might be alkaloid build-up. I also think my body likes getting into a little groove.

However, over a longer time period I also feel rotation is important. It's a balance between too much and too little variation.

However, I do have more variation than one strain at a time. I generally try to round up ~10 strains that I'll stick too for 1 - 2 weeks. Hopefully that makes sense.

[Cbest011]

I do see taking the same strain for several days as a good thing. When I first received TFH, And Luckys leaf, I didn’t get much from it the first few times. But I tried it for a couple days in a row and lowered my dosage and boom, it helped. That’s why I was wondering if I needed a completely new vendor to rotate in since all I have are TFH and Luckys. I do have two smiley time ones and 3 mitraman. Which last night mitraman yellow md came outta nowhere with the mood boost!! Haha

but anyways I have soooo many TFH strains, I figured I wouldn’t grow tolerant like if it were the same three strains I just did. And I’m curious if anyone else had this occur to them as well

[f1vefour]

My experience is that rotating vendors is important in addition to rotating strains/batches. As Fused said, in theory if they have wide range of suppliers/farms it shouldn't matter much but for some reason I feel like it does. Might just be in my head though.

I've gotten better effects sticking with 1 strain for a couple of days or a week. I'm guessing because the same alkaloids begin to build up leading to more in your body probably bad for tolerance long term though. Switching strains/vendors constantly never did it for me. OP maybe try sticking with the same strain for a couple of days I get better effects like this than switching strains all the time.

Same here. I'll even use the same 'strain' for a few weeks. I wish I had some 'science' to explain my choice. Like mitragy9, using something different every day didn't work for me (just like blending more than 2 different types doesn't work). It seems I need a few days to actually get the full benefits from any given strain anyway.

This is how it is for me also but the catch is shorter duration after a while. I get the same effects but instead of 4 hours it becomes 3 after about a week, if I go longer the duration continues to decline.

[gepetto33]

While i think similar things have been said i'm going to chime in with my own experience. While I'm new to posting on this forum, i can happily say i've been a regular user for 3 years now. While i'll say it does help to have some different strains around, there's bigger factors in determining your tolerance:

1. Good leaf - this is the hardest part of all. I just recently left (temporarily) the vendor i've been using for years. While he's been good value, and had some incredible strains, i can honestly say the stuff just wasn't firing for me by the time i left. I think some people like to think it's because i've built tolerance to his strains i DON'T believe that . I think, nay... i KNOW not all strains are created equal. I just tried some leftover red horn i had of his - did nothing. I also tried some leftover Red Elephants from him, that a friend had been hoarding since 2019 - transcendently f*cking amazing. Could be the best strain i've had anywhere, and now i'm trying to weasle more out of said friend . Now my new vendors all have shit that fires hard with me. Shop around if you don't find it at first.

2. Dose size - If you've done the leg work from #1, then this shouldn't be much of a stretch - take the lowest amount possible to get yourself off. Figure out a dose size that works for you and stick with it. For instance, i can get away with taking 4g total most nights (sometimes less), occasionally 5g MAX. You're not doing yourself (or your tolerance) any favors by just pounding more and more on top of what you know gets you off. If i was to take another 4g on top of the 4g i've already taken then it would absolutely be diminishing returns. That extra 4g might very well do nothing, if it's within close proximity. Granted i am exclusively a PM doser, so YMMV, but.... try to have good shit and take as little as possible to still get off. Potentiators help

3. Dose frequency - I've had my best luck with maintaining tolerance by going 5 days on, 2 days off. This keeps your dependence down too. I can comment more on that via PM for anyone who's interested. By the 5th day of my dosing cycle my tolerance is already starting to build, and that 4g dose starts to effect me a lot less. Again, instead of doubling down i might even take less, like 3g. But.... if done right, and you figure out what works for your body.... After those 2 days off you will be simply virginal! hahah. So i always get a nice good burn on Fridays, always without fail.

Sorry for the lengthy post, but i just thought i'd share a more descriptive side of my experience with strains, dosage, and frequency. It's all a balancing act based on your body type and needs from the leaf, but if you're in tune and pay attention to everything then you should find a great routine that works for you! For now.. ditch the weak leaf that's not doing anything for you. Find a few bomb, reliable strains, from reliable vendors, and buy the shit out of them. Rant over

[LuckyHerbals]

I take only ours exclusively, but I get access to a new batch every 3-4 weeks usually. But the effects and quality are almost always consistent. Definitely serving size and how often matters most. That being said, when I find a super potent batch, I try to not take it more than once or twice in the same day. Also, other than testing strains in a new batch and logging effects before sale, I literally stick to 2 strains daily, and add a 3rd every other day or so!

[TheStanman]

Also, other than testing strains in a new batch and logging effects before sale, I literally stick to 2 strains daily, and add a 3rd every other day or so!

Wow! Surprised you maintain such consistent results with that little variation.

Interesting to see the spectrum of how much rotation people do. I felt like all I read was about is how important max rotation but seems like there are a variety of approaches that work well for people.