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Toppy
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Am I doing it wrong?

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I usually dose 2g every 2-3 hrs until I feel desired effects, then I space my doses out more. Im starting to not feel the kratom anymore. I know I need a tbreak, but before I do that (bc its extremely hard to do), im reading ppl take doses of 4-6g and are posting the effects im envious of! I'm afraid of doing too much and getting sick/wobbles though....I have young kids and can't just "lay down" if I feel bad (I wish!)
What are your suggestions?

(I know I should START by dosing farther apart, but the truth is that I'm an addict - its SUPER HARD for me to practice discipline with a substance i happen to love, and if I can get away with feeling great even MORE before I take the inevitable T-break, I will!

Thanks!
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Say you dose 2 grams every couple of hours until you reach desired effect and it takes 3 doses, if I were you I would just dose 5-6 grams at once and don't dose anymore for at least 5-6 hours if you can. the bigger dose will have a longer effect and the longer you go without dosing the more time for you to clear your system out.
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I say either take a higher dose, and spread it out like what’s already been said. Though you will inevitably need a t break if you want to get them feelings like the first time you used it. Taking more is just a temporary fix unless you can stay at the same doses, and work out a schedule that keeps your tolerance in check else then you will just keep taking more. I do agree less is more so just take whatever dose give you the effects your looking for them go as long as possible between doses. You could also do a slow taper with good results. Though at the doses your describing I think just going cold turkey for a few days to rest you tolerance will be just fine, and not to bad. If you can your hands on some gabapentin then take it for a week max because gabapentin can be addicting. Gabapentin is plenty strong enough to eliminate the withdrawals you can start with 300 mg, and even increase this dose to 1800mg max a day. Though I wouldn’t imagine you need more than 900mg a day. Be careful though gabapentin can make you pretty out of it concentration wise at higher doses. Just take the smallest effective dose.
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Man, even 100mg of gabapentin renders me completely useless for half the day. I was prescribed it for neuropathy and ended up taking it for sleep because it makes me so damn drowsy. :lol: So if you do get a gabapentin prescription, OP, make sure you don't have any plans on the day you first try it! Just to be safe.

I would cosign the advice to take a higher dose all at once and see what happens with that.
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Toppy wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 7:23 am I usually dose 2g every 2-3 hrs until I feel desired effects, then I space my doses out more. I'm starting to not feel the kratom anymore. I know I need a T-break .... I know I should START by dosing farther apart, but the truth is that I'm an addict
Well, congrats on taking your First Step - being honest with yourself, about your behavior. We don't know, your history, your medical, etc. But, what you describe IS "behavior", you know - Having a desire, a craving, to constantly DO something... that becomes a Lust, an Obsession, an itch that you always want to scratch...

So it sounds like ? well known Anal Retentive druggie stuff - People who constantly smoke, snort, shoot, drink, and boof... All day long ? Not saying this IS you! But you should recognize the symptoms - It's only partly the physical dependence of kratom - It's also a psychological addiction. We do have MANY addicts (all types!) in our Kratom community... We hope they'll find help, and peace, with kratom.

Think about this: You've already proven, that 2 grams HAS some effect for you. Yes? Kratom like every substance, has a come-on, then Peak effects, then a slow winding down. It should stay with you for 4 hours... Not 2 hours. Food, and Sleep, and sex and LIFE - are all more important than kratom !! When people say, they're not eating and not sleeping and their whole day revolves around choking down green powder and boofing... That's a problem. :| That's when it gets into Mental Illness ?

Do you Smoke ? Smoking cigs is a horrible habit, that I had for 20+ freakin' Years... The craving to suck a damn cig every HOUR, is very hard to break & totally Anal Retentive people really wanting to suck Mommy's Tit lol - I finally did Quit! and fully recovered like 10+ years ago. You can DO this!! :geek:
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Post by IndelibleDotInk »

ballz, can't believe you said 'boof.'

congrats on the quitting smoking, was the hardest thing to quit for me as well.

toppy, if you do take a tbreak look into this: https://smile.amazon.com/Palmitoylethan ... 179&sr=8-5 it MAY have the ability to reduce tolerance. MAY.
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IndelibleDotInk wrote: Sat May 28, 2022 10:44 am ballz, can't believe you said 'boof.'

congrats on the quitting smoking, was the hardest thing to quit for me as well.

toppy, if you do take a tbreak look into this: https://smile.amazon.com/Palmitoylethan ... 179&sr=8-5 it MAY have the ability to reduce tolerance. MAY.
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This is a new to me supplement. I looked into it and it is intriguing. Have you taken it beyond using it for tolerance? Tolerance is always nice to manage but the possible neuropathic pain support is what peaked my interest.
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The suggested use is for mild pain or discomfort. I have taken it a few times to see if it affects tolerance, and am still experimenting; have not noticed any effect regarding pain or discomfort.
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