Whats everyone dose at

[WhiteAngelica]

I am not going to say what my dose is, but it is a lot. Higher than yours. All I can say is, for pain, I should be on morphine. So a considerable dose 4 times a day, every six hours--and I can wake up from sleep in assloads of pain--it's worth it to me.

I haven't increased my dose though in years, and it depends on the kratom itself as to how much or how often I need to take. But back to you---

I don't see 14g a day to be a big deal, but that's my flawed perception. If it starts to not work for you and you need to take a higher dose, I would suggest a t-break. I would do it myself, if I were in a coma. As long as I don't exceed my dosage, I'm okay. I enjoy kratom, and it makes life worth living...but if I end up sprinkling it on my cornflakes some day, I'd want an intervention.

[Love_Redz]

It fluctuates a lot week to week. Sometimes I take much more, sometimes much less. Just depends on pain level, etc.

As of right now, I'm around 7-8g during the afternoon and about 6g or so during the late night hours. I'm a night owl, so I'm usually up all night.

I stagger my doses. So I'll take like 3g, then 45 min later take another 1.5-2g, etc. I feel staggering works best for me and keeps the kratom working longer. Everyone is different of course.

Wow it’s crazy you just described my schedule to the T with dosing to my sleep schedule but I actually just sleep 4 hours if I’m lucky my intake fluctuates as well sometimes it’s high and sometimes low and that’s how I keep it working for me too

[MagPie]

I jst wanted to add my thoughts...im pretty new but sure am trying my hardest to make this leaf my life...i read all these posts and everyone of them is helpful! I mean someone starting like myself is wanting to make this work. Honesty is wut I pay attention to and I often go back and remember wut I've learned from all you strangers haha..and how im doin ok...things work on everyone differently. So jst saying I really appreciate the help!

[tdowski]

I usually don't post on here, but I am seeing a lot of back and forth.

I am a "heavy" user. I've been taking kratom for over 4 years and I am reading some of these responses with a head shake at the misunderstanding and judgment.

I take between 6-8.5 grams every 4 hrs. I started at 1-2 every 4-6 hrs like most of you. I rarely even feel the effects at even those high doses. I've read on this site all your reviews on how strong things are and I've taken those exact strains from tons of vendors from the same batches as your reviews......still nothing like when I first started. I'm reading here some people saying how they could see someone do 8g compared to a "good" strain. Guess what...did that, still need higher dose.

Before you all go off the rocker and say "oh he's bad" or "withdrawals are gonna be bad", I went cold turkey for 2 months with no withdrawals. When I started back up, still needed the same 6-8.5g dose.

The reason I'm writing this is that everyone is different. Your dose is independent of another's. I have to redose every 4 hrs, some can go almost a full day or even 8 hrs. Your awesome vendor or strain is your personal opinion based on your makeup, the way your body processes things.

Your dose is individual to you and don't put down anyone that has something way different than you. Your dose is your dose, your strain is your strain.

[brave777]

I remember me nodding away from strong 6 gram reds a dose. Sure awesome feeling but i later realized that 6 grams you can have same effect at 2 or 3 grams reds if a good T break in between. I see here on a forum most or a lot are in pain and cant risk taking any days off. I feel you on that one. Seems like only you and no one else knows best what dose is good for your body, and i am sure everyone knows it comes with a small package of WD' if cold turkeys. They are not hard and way easier to over come then what docs prescribe you these days but i am glad i never been at doctors and never will go. I am all about alternative, don't need other side effects. I been detoxing when i was on my 3 weeks off kratom and i think my body became extremely sensitive to anything. 1 gram of kratom and BAN, i feel it. Things that detox you, drinking chamomiles before sleep every night, its a very soft detox. I did take Spirulina but be careful, it can be to much so take less. Chlorrela is more softer then spirulina so i would rather go for chlorrela if you new to detoxing from toxins. Also if you detox might as well change what foods you consume or your just wasting detox stuff. I became so sensitive that i can feel any herbs x3 then what i use too. I think or believe if you never detoxed maybe your body is full of toxins and you can only feel high dose no matter how long the t breaks were. I mean there could be many factors but thats just what I think. I mean you could be drinking any herbals tea, they all do soft detox, even peppermint tea. Like i also started skipping 3 days a week, no kratom. If there is even any WD's i got CBD or i can just drink some coffee or just my favorite tea Guayusa tea. But it sure does feel very good that 2 grams a dose gives you fire feeling. For me my conclusion, if take T breaks, detox and at least 3 weeks and be very careful not to over detox or you might go crazy, if any time feel weak or dizzy, get a natural sugar drink, like Naked Blueberry machine all gass stations sell will boost you up real fast to feel better. Or just have some sugary drink near by just in case you need to sip on it to balance your self. Sugar in some ways is also a drug and lowering it to fast can result in catastrophic mood swings. Thats just my thoughts, i am not a doctor so before you do anything or any detox, please do talk to your doctor first, most likely they can guide to most gentle detox and proper way of doing it. But yes, 2 grams it feels like 8 grams after 3 weeks of break. Like right now i am skipping a day and only drank a cup of coffee. Feeling extra good. I really dont even think there is any WD's from such low amount of kratom. I ll have to play around with more then one day off later and see if there is any WD's from having 4 grams max per day. 2g early on and 2g lunch. The magic will always be with he low numbers. Sometimes i wish i taken 3 weeks off a while back ago.

[Loveandpeace]

I usually don't post on here, but I am seeing a lot of back and forth.

I am a "heavy" user. I've been taking kratom for over 4 years and I am reading some of these responses with a head shake at the misunderstanding and judgment.

I think it is awesome that this is your first post. This sentiment goes without saying but had to be said. Personal experience trumps all when it comes to dosing.

I hope you post some more.

[Playerpiano72]

Less isn't more for everyone. For some, more is more. Kratom users aren't monolithic. Some kratom elitists don't get it, they seem to think their personal experience is what everyone experiences. It's not.

[whatssocomplicated]

5 grams 3x a day for about 3 years. decided to seriously cut back to just on the weekends (after a month/6 week taper). found that something changed with my physiology and i started getting really sick when i would try to use it a few days in a row like i was. now i have to be really careful and my doses are 5 grams once a day on the weekends. maybe another 2.5 on a 3rd day. i've gotten really sick 3 times since this started and had to call out of work 2 days in a row. same symptoms as food poisoning. have yet to hear about this happening to anyone else.

[onespeedstop]

Less isn't more for everyone. For some, more is more. Kratom users aren't monolithic. Some kratom elitists don't get it, they seem to think their personal experience is what everyone experiences. It's not.

For sure. Like I said previously, I'm a little bit jealous of people who get 5-6 hour burns from 1.5grams or something ha-ha. They're just lucky, they have the right metabolism to process kratom that way, I don't, so I take a bit more and try not to worry about it since it's still way cheap and isn't causing any bad side effects or anything.

[Playerpiano72]

Exactly. It isn't detrimental to your health and it's completely sustainable, fiscally and otherwise. If it's not a drug as some claim, what's the harm anyway?

[MetalMamaRocks]

5 grams 3x a day for about 3 years. decided to seriously cut back to just on the weekends (after a month/6 week taper). found that something changed with my physiology and i started getting really sick when i would try to use it a few days in a row like i was. now i have to be really careful and my doses are 5 grams once a day on the weekends. maybe another 2.5 on a 3rd day. i've gotten really sick 3 times since this started and had to call out of work 2 days in a row. same symptoms as food poisoning. have yet to hear about this happening to anyone else.

That's the symptoms I had when I had gastritis. I think mine was caused by too much plant matter.

Have you tried making tea and straining the plant matter out?

[brave777]

5 grams 3x a day for about 3 years. decided to seriously cut back to just on the weekends (after a month/6 week taper). found that something changed with my physiology and i started getting really sick when i would try to use it a few days in a row like i was. now i have to be really careful and my doses are 5 grams once a day on the weekends. maybe another 2.5 on a 3rd day. i've gotten really sick 3 times since this started and had to call out of work 2 days in a row. same symptoms as food poisoning. have yet to hear about this happening to anyone else.

Your not alone, thats what called, catching up to your limit and hitting the pipers, any amount of kratom will make it worse, i had something similar i believe but just hate talking about it. Mine happened when i mixed Lukcy strong GMD with TFH nice Red, 50% 50%/. Hell broke loss. Just dont mix Lucky with any Reds, some reason my Sugar levels went bottom rock and sky rocketed my Blood pressure. I learned that later, if something have a very strong organic sugar drink if that happens and you get really sick. Its not a good feeling to be in when it first happens cause you in complete utter confusion and , some panic, and some anxiety like your losing your mind or about to go faint mode sleep. Just a warning to everyone to not mix lucky with any reds, keep it alone as is. I have to admit, that send me into 3 weeks break. Zero kratom. If that happened to me, this can happen to anyone. My honey in kratom didnt even help, that was not enough or kratom over powered it or i forgot to shake the honey and it was all on the bottom. But just do know some mixes drop sugar level like nothing else you seen before. Florida natural OJ, or any Naked like green machine from any gas station will fix it real fast and dont be afraid, just jug the sugar, i think Naked blueberry one has like 55G of sugar. I am sure there are many more who has similar experience and seeking for answers but this is why i cant stress enough, it will bite the pipers if you have to just Cold turkey if your a high doser. There is no reason to be jealous of low dosers, most low dosers are careful and perhaps got sick 1 or 3 times. Like i took 2 days off from kratom and i am happy to see i get runny nose finely! That has not happened in so long. That means i am not over doing it just like back in the days when i started low dose and had runny nose. High dosers will have to wait maybe a month before they get a runny nose and maybe go trough some pain and torture. Dont mean to scare any one but shit happens and those who brag about high dose will find out exactly what i meant. Sure while everything is fine you can say anything you wish but when time comes you will understand.

My max per day will always be 4 grams per day. Just 2g x per day. And 2 or 3 days off per week. Now after 3 weeks, 2 grams of anything, even weakest stuff that first went for was a power house. Reason why you think kratom is weak is because your tolerance is getting kinda high. Like always only time with T breaks can heal that. Their is no weak kratom. Fix your body and mind and you will feel any kratom. Even the weakest. Perhaps clean your life if you have any. Ok just joking about that. Peace..

Edit: Side note, if you never used strips and to check sugar levels, i would advice all kratomites to get a machine with some strips. Know what the normal sugar levels suppose to be and if ever feel confusion, weak, panic, anxiety, lost. Check your sugar levels, because if it goes to low, it can trigger your blood pressure and thats like triple problem. ER will charge you a bill of what? 10,000 with a forced over night. Or always carry good source of sugar at all times. I think that is the best advice from my own experience. Also if you get sick and go cold turkey you dont want anything because you afraid it will make it worse, dont let that get to you, check the sugar levels right away. B12, Vit D, Vit C, Iodine will be important play on those sick days so get some right now or ER will have to inject some of that to balance you out. Main advice, start lowering if your especially over 20 grams per day, its not shaming in any way, its facts it will bite you one day. After all its not my body, its yours, i am saying it from my 7 years of experience as to help a stranger. Vitamin C and Vitamin D will remove most of your sickness, like 80%... My vitamin D when checked was 9,000 IU low, extremely low. When i started taking it, everything went to balance. Everyone talking about vitamin C but Vitamin D is like invisible. I in fact believe vitamin D is way more important and fix or correct most issues your having.

Here is FREE links to what i used to get better,

1. Vitamin D $20 - https://www.healthrangerstore.com/produ ... n-d-2000iu most people when sick are low around 8,000 IU but please do a full blood work if you get sick, like right away.... 4 drops per day is 8,000 IU, one drop is 2,000...

2. Vitamin C $30 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GL ... UTF8&psc=1 Vitamin C both go hand in hand with Vitamin D. It comes with a scoop, if really sick you can take up to 3 scoops, if not sick , daily maintenance is 1 or 2 scoops or just take one scoop in morning and another later that day.

3. Vitamin B12 $23 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003V ... UTF8&psc=1 Strongest b12 and most effective, put it under your tongue and will dissolve in seconds then chase it with water. There is no such thing as over taking, you will piss the extra out. Go for the strongest.

I hope you find this info useful and also like always talk to your doctor first before you use anything.. I think i will take a break from Double M, i need sometime for my self, i think way to much other people and not much about my self. I really hope no one will get sick this year. May you all be blessed.

[oftheshire]

I don’t think it’s an issue with mixing lucky with reds...

[IndelibleDotInk]

After a long time of trying less is more, I found that for me, more is where it's at for now. Ideally my doses would be smaller, perhaps they will drop in the future. I take 3-7g/day in one dose, depending on the particular batch.

I don't feel shamed about my intake, but I was surprised I need to dose so high with some batches. A lot of people are just trying to help with their personal experiences, and for the most part aren't telling people who get good effects they're wrong, they're trying to wake up those who have hit and surpassed the ceiling and aren't getting results.

[DittonW]

I don’t think it’s an issue with mixing lucky with reds...

Can confirm - mixed Lucky's GMD with Herbal RVA Red Bali yesterday afternoon, hell did NOT break loose.

[whatssocomplicated]

5 grams 3x a day for about 3 years. decided to seriously cut back to just on the weekends (after a month/6 week taper). found that something changed with my physiology and i started getting really sick when i would try to use it a few days in a row like i was. now i have to be really careful and my doses are 5 grams once a day on the weekends. maybe another 2.5 on a 3rd day. i've gotten really sick 3 times since this started and had to call out of work 2 days in a row. same symptoms as food poisoning. have yet to hear about this happening to anyone else.

That's the symptoms I had when I had gastritis. I think mine was caused by too much plant matter.

Have you tried making tea and straining the plant matter out?

i actually started making tea a couple weeks ago following nerds' recipe i saw on one of his youtube vids. so far i haven't gotten sick, but i still feel like it's changed for me permanently. i've been trying to figure out the conversion, as in whether the brewing a dose that i'd toss and wash would be equivalent. i started with that assumption. then after not feeling the effects as much as i hoped, i tried doubling up. my body was like nope. could def tell i took too much and had to skip my 2nd "kratom day" because i could tell if i took anymore i'd be in a world of hurt. last week too, i took less and still felt i had to skip my 2nd day cuz i could feel i might push it over the edge. had mild pressure behind my eyes type headache all day.

[whatssocomplicated]

@brave777, very interesting. i really don't feel my situation is specific to any vendor or strain. i have a substantial stash and tried switching it up a few times and same thing was happening. i'll def look into the blood sugar and pressure thing. our daughter has congenital hyperinsulinism (like the opposite of diabetes) so we have to check her sugar regularly.

[Playerpiano72]

I don’t think it’s an issue with mixing lucky with reds...

Can confirm - mixed Lucky's GMD with Herbal RVA Red Bali yesterday afternoon, hell did NOT break loose.

Yeah, there's nothing in Lucky's Herbals' kratom that is substantially different from anyone else's. Your body doesn't know what domestic vendor/reseller you got the kratom from. I blended Lucky's white thai with a red from another vendor recently, it was fine. That was kind of a strange claim.

its not shaming in any way, its facts

If it happens at over 20gpd, it will happen at under 20. There's nothing magical that happens when you take 21 grams as opposed to 19, or if you routinely take 16 grams per day as opposed to 24. that's just an arbitrary 'limit'. You also have to factor in the user's weight, a 200lb person would require more kratom than a 150lb person.

[whatssocomplicated]

Less isn't more for everyone. For some, more is more. Kratom users aren't monolithic. Some kratom elitists don't get it, they seem to think their personal experience is what everyone experiences. It's not.

For sure. Like I said previously, I'm a little bit jealous of people who get 5-6 hour burns from 1.5grams or something ha-ha. They're just lucky, they have the right metabolism to process kratom that way, I don't, so I take a bit more and try not to worry about it since it's still way cheap and isn't causing any bad side effects or anything.

i feel this way about people that can enjoy a drink or a joint. i'm missing an enzyme that processes alcohol (google asian flush) and drinking has never really been that enjoyable to me. i still drank socially when i was younger and enjoyed a glass or 2 of wine when out to dinner. but if i tried to have a drink alone it would always make me feel heavy and tired. after i got really into kratom i totally lost interest in drinking and now if i try to even have one drink it just makes me feel heavy and pounding heart and shit. and weed has never agreed with me. kratom is my last vice (not counting sugar and the occasional ambien at bedtime!) and i now really have to be careful with that.

[brave777]

Ok, just to be clear, I really dont think it was kratom, i tried GMD alone and the red, they are good. Just afraid to try them together. I really dont think its kratom related. I dont understand why it happened. Thanks you all for your inputs. Perhaps i accidentally over took it?