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add to descartes wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:34 am question, have you already started the oxy? if so, it is more effective as a pain reliever than the kratom? I ask because I have been prescribed hydrocodone for post-op pain before, and it was nowhere near as effective as kratom in actual pain relief. now, hydrocodone is only about 2/3 the strength of oxycodone, but even taking higher doses of hydro, I always just preferred the kratom for pain. that made me realize for the first time just how great of a painkiller kratom can be.

add to descartes wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:34 am there's no harm in taking kratom too soon after your last painkiller dose. the only issue you might have is that the kratom won't feel as strong. there are some meds that you'd want to make sure to take far apart - like suboxone, because it contains naloxone which is a pure antagonist, and that can put you into precipitated withdrawals. not an issue here.

I agree with creatus, just wait at least a good 6-8 hours after the final oxy dose, and go based on how you feel. you're ready when you feel like you want to/need to dose. the longer you wait, the better the effects will be when you start the kratom again.

question, have you already started the oxy? if so, it is more effective as a pain reliever than the kratom? I ask because I have been prescribed hydrocodone for post-op pain before, and it was nowhere near as effective as kratom in actual pain relief. now, hydrocodone is only about 2/3 the strength of oxycodone, but even taking higher doses of hydro, I always just preferred the kratom for pain. that made me realize for the first time just how great of a painkiller kratom can be.

Kelleytoons wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:16 am

add to descartes wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:34 am question, have you already started the oxy? if so, it is more effective as a pain reliever than the kratom? I ask because I have been prescribed hydrocodone for post-op pain before, and it was nowhere near as effective as kratom in actual pain relief. now, hydrocodone is only about 2/3 the strength of oxycodone, but even taking higher doses of hydro, I always just preferred the kratom for pain. that made me realize for the first time just how great of a painkiller kratom can be.

I agree with you IF you have been taking opioids (or at least the traditional ones) for some time. You build up a tolerance for them really quickly, and almost no one I know who has used them more than two or three SEPARATE occasions thinks they are as good as they were when first prescribed (which is what leads to the problems of abuse).

I was taking three or four a week for quite a long time (years) and they essentially did nothing. Kratom is what allowed me to stop them cold turkey and a year later and I've never even tried one. So - if the OP has already had oxy in the past I'd suggest skipping it entirely.

WarmFoothills wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:36 am I broke my jaw in a bicycle accident. Luckily its not wired shut, they've got elastic bands instead, so I can open my mouth a bit.

add to descartes wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:01 pm

WarmFoothills wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:36 am I broke my jaw in a bicycle accident. Luckily its not wired shut, they've got elastic bands instead, so I can open my mouth a bit.

yikes...I've been there. my jaw got fractured on the lower mandible right where it meets my skull, on the side of my face. it was wired shut for 8 weeks, and it was a complete anxiety-ridden nightmare. consider yourself very fortunate you didn't have to go through that. I wish I had had kratom back then...I would have had to make tea out of it, but it would have helped so much more than the hydrocodone. the funny part is, they prescribed it to me in pill form.

add to descartes wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:01 pm

WarmFoothills wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:36 am I broke my jaw in a bicycle accident. Luckily its not wired shut, they've got elastic bands instead, so I can open my mouth a bit.

yikes...I've been there. my jaw got fractured on the lower mandible right where it meets my skull, on the side of my face. it was wired shut for 8 weeks, and it was a complete anxiety-ridden nightmare. consider yourself very fortunate you didn't have to go through that. I wish I had had kratom back then...I would have had to make tea out of it, but it would have helped so much more than the hydrocodone. the funny part is, they prescribed it to me in pill form.

mivanqua wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:11 am

add to descartes wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:01 pm yikes...I've been there. my jaw got fractured on the lower mandible right where it meets my skull, on the side of my face. it was wired shut for 8 weeks, and it was a complete anxiety-ridden nightmare. consider yourself very fortunate you didn't have to go through that. I wish I had had kratom back then...I would have had to make tea out of it, but it would have helped so much more than the hydrocodone. the funny part is, they prescribed it to me in pill form.

Your doctor was a doofus (99.99% are) Did you get to take ANY of them or did you just have a big pile of Hydros to get trashed on for a few weeks afterwards?