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Hey just curious folks...

Just purchased from Liza again but this time it wasn't her who followed up via text/email for payment. It was someone named Steve with different email and Venmo payment options. I know she had some stuff going on.

Anyway, hesitant to pay until I verify legitimacy.

Hopefully this hasn't been covered yet, I looked but didn't see any mention of it.

Tia

gkannon77 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 4:51 pm Hey just curious folks...

Just purchased from Liza again but this time it wasn't her who followed up via text/email for payment. It was someone named Steve with different email and Venmo payment options. I know she had some stuff going on.

Anyway, hesitant to pay until I verify legitimacy.

Hopefully this hasn't been covered yet, I looked but didn't see any mention of it.

Tia

It's my understanding that her health has deteriorated unfortunately. Her brother is helping her out by running the business for her while she is battling cancer. Others have asked this same question on Reddit in the last month and as far as I know they paid and received their packages with no issues

Steve is her brother and is taking over her business as she is very sick.

I received my order a couple days ago. From ordering to receiving took about 7 days. I am in Missouri.

I look back Five Years ago... A LOT has changed. We had over 300 "Online Vendors" at one point... does anyone remember: "Stan David Botanicals" https://www.standavidbotanicals.com

Stan had illness and died... His family took over the business (any existing stock in warehouse) and... well, you see they're gone NOW. -

Liza Graham developed a quality Kratom business. She was inspired by, and influenced by, Harry at Kratom-OG ~ (as was Smiley Time and others!)... I'm so sorry to hear about Liza ... unfortunately, what happens is - A warehouse STOCK gets picked over. The better quality stuff goes first... Eventually old vendors, get stuck trying to move their bottom of the barrel stuff. This is happening even more with Indo Regulations on shipping.

I just won a contest here last year from Liza, and even only having tried 2 of the 4 bags so far, they are good, or at least were good 6 months ago or whenever that was (no idea what is shipping now, but the stuff I got was a bit slow like TFH, but very good quality overall it seemed). I hope she's doing alright, kratom needs more honest dealers, and she seemed like a good one. Once all the (new) laws and regulations are in place, won't be many 'good ones' left I fear....

I feel that already established vendors of all sizes will be fine as most of them have indo contacts and business relationships already in place, but there may be a rougher barrier to entry for new vendors.

Sending positive vibes to Lizas. She is a wonderful person. Hope she gets through this good honestvendor

gkannon77 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 4:51 pm Hey just curious folks...

Just purchased from Liza again but this time it wasn't her who followed up via text/email for payment. It was someone named Steve with different email and Venmo payment options. I know she had some stuff going on.

Anyway, hesitant to pay until I verify legitimacy.

Hopefully this hasn't been covered yet, I looked but didn't see any mention of it.

Tia

Liza died 1/9. Her brother is taking over the business. There are other posts now, as this info came to public light today.