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I desperately need to expand my horizons, but I’m not sure who to go with right now. Over the years, I’ve tried mostly everyone lol. I’m open to any vendor, either new or old. I wanna hear what you guys have been getting lately.

Probably West Coast Botanicals cause i love greens. I also buy from Smiley and Mitraman. Just tried Wildcraft, theyre expensive but the quality was good.

Probably STH still, and also leaves of eden and LSMS.

DTE over the last year but the quality has gone down considerably in the last drop or two, imo.

T0wlie04 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2026 12:38 pm Probably STH still, and also leaves of eden and LSMS.

DTE over the last year but the quality has gone down considerably in the last drop or two, imo.

I used to enjoy DTE but agreed, they also did a piss poor job handling the contaminated batch, and don't sterilize the leaf

Having said that my favorites are TFH, Otie’s (their drop mid-late 2025 was fantastic, ask them if it’s still in stock), LSMS, YLYL and about to try Rhino Remedies so let’s see!

Rambo wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2026 4:58 pm

T0wlie04 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2026 12:38 pm Probably STH still, and also leaves of eden and LSMS.

DTE over the last year but the quality has gone down considerably in the last drop or two, imo.

I used to enjoy DTE but agreed, they also did a piss poor job handling the contaminated batch, and don't sterilize the leaf

Having said that my favorites are TFH, Otie’s (their drop mid-late 2025 was fantastic, ask them if it’s still in stock), LSMS, YLYL and about to try Rhino Remedies so let’s see!

Yeah and DTE’s last drop was god awful, yet their testers continue to push the product.

Oties is out of that dry season batch. I still have a bit left but man was that shit absolute fire! Did you try the most recent LSMS drop (this month)? Mine should be here next week, heard good things.

TFH, mitragenie and soultanic are the only vendors I send my hard earned money to these days. In my experience these guys give the best chance of receiving good batches that continue to be effective bag after bag. Lots of other ok vendors out there but you need to buy 10 different batches to hopefully get a good one or two for rotation. Also, lots of batches that hit once or twice and then never again from many of these mid tier vendors. I've bought and gone through many TFH batches multiple times and they still hit like the first burn. Same with soul and mitragenie.....to me these are the gold standard, top shelf choices.

T0wlie04 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 22, 2026 10:15 pm

Rambo wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2026 4:58 pm

T0wlie04 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2026 12:38 pm Probably STH still, and also leaves of eden and LSMS.

DTE over the last year but the quality has gone down considerably in the last drop or two, imo.

I used to enjoy DTE but agreed, they also did a piss poor job handling the contaminated batch, and don't sterilize the leaf

Having said that my favorites are TFH, Otie’s (their drop mid-late 2025 was fantastic, ask them if it’s still in stock), LSMS, YLYL and about to try Rhino Remedies so let’s see!

Yeah and DTE’s last drop was god awful, yet their testers continue to push the product.

Oties is out of that dry season batch. I still have a bit left but man was that shit absolute fire! Did you try the most recent LSMS drop (this month)? Mine should be here next week, heard good things.

It’s been a good minute since I ordered from LSMS, last batch I got had Cosmic Green, Green Moneky and a few other things. Those two greens were both pretty good but even better mixed together. Maybe it’s time to message Chris again

My top vendors are TFH, DTE, and LSMS. That Old Growth Kapuas from the last LSMS drop was slapping hard, definitely one of the best greens I've had in the last year. I'm about to make an order for the new drop right now. Speaking of Cosmic Green, that one was good too and I need more.

As far as the last DTE drop, I do enjoy the White Dragon Elite it's a potent upper-mid spec white. The Green JK Elite is good as well, the other three I got are okay nothing to write home about. The K18 fiasco was sketch, threw away all my leaf from that drop. Never been sick from dosing kratom (outside of puking once or twice from too big a dose) as I'd like to think I have a strong stomach but I expect the vendors I purchase from to take the necessary precautions to keep the leaf bug and contaminant free.

Could be an issue of growing too big as a vendor and cutting corners like these big food companies, the other vendors I buy from are private vendors. I got my fingers crossed for a new Soultanic drop.

Who is LSMS? I’m racking my brain (which is pretty painful) and I can’t think of it.

Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2026 12:09 am My top vendors are TFH, DTE, and LSMS..... As far as the last DTE drop.... The Green JK Elite is good as well, the other three I got are okay nothing to write home about. The K18 fiasco was sketch, threw away all my leaf from that drop. Never been sick from dosing kratom (outside of puking once or twice from too big a dose) as I'd like to think I have a strong stomach but I expect the vendors I purchase from to take the necessary precautions to keep the leaf bug and contaminant free.

Bugs, Bacteria, contaminants, and heavy metals (Lead, mercury arsenic, etc.) WHY ?? It's 2026 - there is NO need to Buy or consume, ANY "Raw Kratom" crapola since this Industry has evolved - BOOMED - the past 2-3 years...

Anyone can READ my posts here since 2019, I always recommended a Extraction = "Red Bubble Tea", or some method of NOT eating the dirt !! ALL Raw Powder = 98% Dirt / 2% Alkaloids, and... we only want the Alkaloids - yes ? So, back to DTE - the #1 Quality product DTE sells - is the Solar Flare Extract - around 65% Mitragynine.

Vendors = NOW in 2026, you have a few "types" of Vendors... the "Online Retail" that sell - Brand Name Kratom products (which are ONLY available since 2023!) ~ All of the Advanced Alkaloid products - 7OH, Pseudo, MGM, etc... Yes there are SOME very good Kratom products, developed by & sold in Retail stores.

Then - Online Vendors - who Do NOT sell the Retail products... you've got like 3 different groups: 1- AKA Affiliated - the AKA "Criminal Cartel", Happy Hippo, and Kats, and MIT-45, etc. I think most people here, will agree - Do Not support any AKA Affiliated vendors. Why ? Mainly - Low quality and Ripoff prices!

OK then, we have the NON AKA, vendors who for some reason, allow AKA to dictate - WHAT kratom products they can SELL ? OR "Wannabee" vendors who DON'T sell the new 7OH, Advanced Alkaloids - DTE, MitraMan, Philly, its a long list.. Many very SMALL operators who really can't afford Lab Testing / can't afford to carry 7OH products.

Finally - the SPECIAL vendors! Either "Private" and unique like TFH - OR a few like TOP "That One Place", and ANA "All Natural Artisan"... who DO sell Advanced products, extracts, and 7OH - either directly or through separate websites... and the newer 7OH Vendors like "RAW MIT" and - Kratomheads.com - those are where I shop these days. Should be interesting to see, WHO survives the DEA "Ban" this week.

SunnyD wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2026 2:25 pm Who is LSMS? I’m racking my brain (which is pretty painful) and I can’t think of it.

Lonestar Mitrasource. Active on MeWe

brian b wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2026 7:42 am Probably West Coast Botanicals cause i love greens. I also buy from Smiley and Mitraman. Just tried Wildcraft, theyre expensive but the quality was good.

Thanks for the recs! I also prefer greens (hence the username lol). I’ve never tried West Coast. Which greens are your favorite? And also what are your current faves from STH and MM?

T0wlie04 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 21, 2026 12:38 pm Probably STH still, and also leaves of eden and LSMS.

DTE over the last year but the quality has gone down considerably in the last drop or two, imo.

What are your current recs from STH? I’ve never tried Eden. I’ve actually never heard of them until just now lol.

SunnyD wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2026 2:25 pm Who is LSMS? I’m racking my brain (which is pretty painful) and I can’t think of it.

I didn’t know who LSMS was either lol. I don’t use mewe so that’s probably why I’ve never heard of them.

GreenAnimal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 28, 2026 5:09 am

SunnyD wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2026 2:25 pm Who is LSMS? I’m racking my brain (which is pretty painful) and I can’t think of it.

I didn’t know who LSMS was either lol. I don’t use mewe so that’s probably why I’ve never heard of them.

Lonestar (just one guy I presume) doesn't have a website and takes their orders through Email. I think he takes on new people through referrals to make sure everything is legit.

I also joined Soultanic during their last drop but by the time my membership was activated he was pretty much cleaned out. So crossing my fingers for another drop this year

Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2026 4:01 pm I also joined Soultanic during their last drop but by the time my membership was activated he was pretty much cleaned out. So crossing my fingers for another drop this year

How do you get in on soultanic?

T0wlie04 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2026 2:40 pm

Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2026 4:01 pm I also joined Soultanic during their last drop but by the time my membership was activated he was pretty much cleaned out. So crossing my fingers for another drop this year

How do you get in on soultanic?

There WAS a website during the last drop and I made an account on there. Looks like the website is down now though

Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2026 5:12 pm

T0wlie04 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2026 2:40 pm

Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2026 4:01 pm I also joined Soultanic during their last drop but by the time my membership was activated he was pretty much cleaned out. So crossing my fingers for another drop this year

How do you get in on soultanic?

There WAS a website during the last drop and I made an account on there. Looks like the website is down now though

Damn I’m tryna get on that ish