Coronavirus and kratom

[FartBlaster]

Does anyone have an idea if coronavirus hits Indonesia hard what the danger would be to the kratom supply and farms?

[Ilikerafts]

it's a conspiracy lie perpetrated by those told said Fox TV including Scott gottlieb and Barack Obama who are now pissing in jars in an underground bunker out living us all up

[FartBlaster]

That's an entertaining image for sure but I was just wondering if it progresses would the supply become suspect

[mivanqua]

You never know. It remains to be seen, Fartblaster...

[RumRunner]

Parts of China are essentially shut down. No one knows how this plays out.

[Bestboy143]

Why not stock up now? The risk is too great to leave it to chance imo. Better play it safe and buy a few extra kilos in case the supply chain gets screwed and prices go up. Can always use later.

[brave777]

Why not stock up now? The risk is too great to leave it to chance imo. Better play it safe and buy a few extra kilos in case the supply chain gets screwed and prices go up. Can always use later.

This, better be safe then sorry especially if you got some extra cash. Dont do it if you don't have extras cash. at this day no one really honestly can say it will stay safe. And if hospitals shut down and they make everyone stay home doors shut, at least you will have a sweet smile on your face. oh and get a mask as well if can, its possible they might announce no one can walk out with out a mask. get any cheap one just for walking outside, no need to spend lots on it. I think i heard rumors california already starting making some people stay home. Stay calm and kratom on.

[BallzDeep9]

Rump and the Republicans, have fired or de-funded the Pandemic Response Team setup by Obama, and cut the budget for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) ... The Rump has already sabotaged our Coronavirus Response

https://www.frontpagelive.com/2020/02/0 ... c-impacts/

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ ... e-response

[brave777]

Honestly i think its much more serious and Rumps slogan is everything is fine just so he can get re-elected even if it was far more worse and thousands of people dead it will only be shown or we will find out how serious it is after he is in office again (i have a feeling he wont win this time). its about image. "Simon parks" latest video says in china death toll is around 10k - 12k and half million infected, while we are almost last soon to close the airplanes bringing people from china, its like they really want panic. So if kratom flys trough china then it will definitely mess with kratom chain, right?

[BallzDeep9]

I believe China Post no longer ships kratom.. they banned kratom on their CP over a year ago. Whew. Yes you're correct the City of San Francisco has declared an Emergency because its the largest chinese population in the USA, right there.. the entire West Coast, Seattle to L.A. also have lots of chinese traveling.

So, I'm on the West coast and just looked up 3M N95 Respirators, 8511 model.. the disposable face mask respirators, used in auto body shops for painting etc.. Those cheap things sell for around $2.50 but NOW.... good ole capitalism. Try to find just ONE for less than $15

A Pack of 10 - 3M 8511 Respirators will cost you, $150.00 now. In like 3 days.... they jacked up the price

[gumbyke1]

The CDC has addressed the concenrn of packages from China being contaminated stating that the virus cannot live outside a host long and would be dead within the timeframe of a shipped product. However, the shipping industries themselves may be crippled in a worst case scenario.

One of the used kratom shipping lanes does go through China, my guess is it is possible for some suppliers to be affected (those who are "smuggling"). Of course, the virus could spread in Indonesia which would create a whole new set of challenges.

By no means would I encourage a panic buy, we are nowhere near needing to consider this. Panic buys are absolutely terrible for the community and often results in increased prices and terrible quality. There will no doubt be unscrupulous vendors that will begin spreading propoganda to cash in my on public concern. Please do not fall for it, I would let this community know immediately if I saw the threat. Just something to keep an eye on...

Through sheer luck and coincidence, TFH is fortunately prepared for the worst case scenario. This year we have spent a great deal of time working on a technique that midigates the effects of the rainy season, but we did not quite get things to where we wanted. We absolutely gained some ground, but fell short of finding a total and realistic solve. Recognizing our failure early, we implemented our back up plan, which was to invest HEAVILY in producing and purchasing during two specific events in Dec and Jan. Our goal was to ensure we had inevtory to last through the rainy season in the event that there were some significant quality drop-offs. With that, we have over 35 batches that are about to conclude testing and another 55 or so on deck that we plan to test and release over the next 4-5 months. I hope there is no major impact to the industry, but if there is we feel well positioned.

[brave777]

I got this for 25$ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B ... UTF8&psc=1

But i also paint help, if nothing happens i will still use it. Best Go local CVS or wallgreens or wallmart, should be cheaper then amazon.

[brave777]

The CDC has addressed the concenrn of packages from China being contaminated stating that the virus cannot live outside a host long and would be dead within the timeframe of a shipped product. However, the shipping industries themselves may be crippled in a worst case scenario.

One of the used kratom shipping lanes does go through China, my guess is it is possible for some suppliers to be affected (those who are "smuggling"). Of course, the virus could spread in Indonesia which would create a whole new set of challenges.

By no means would I encourage a panic buy, we are nowhere near needing to consider this. Panic buys are absolutely terrible for the community and often results in increased prices and terrible quality. There will no doubt be unscrupulous vendors that will begin spreading propoganda to cash in my on public concern. Please do not fall for it, I would let this community know immediately if I saw a threat. Just something to keep an eye on...

Through sheer luck and coincidence, TFH is fortunately prepared for the worst case scenario. This year we have spent a great deal of time working on a technique that midigates the effects of the rainy season, but we did not quite get things to where we wanted. We absolutely gained some ground, but fell short of finding a total and realistic solve. Recognizing our failure early, we implemented our back up plan, which was to invest HEAVILY in producing and purchasing during two specific events in Dec and Jan. Our goal was to ensure we had inevtory to last through the rainy season in the event that there were some quality drop offs. With that, we have over 35 batches that are about to conclude testing and another 55 or so on deck that we plan to test and release over the next 4-5 months. I hope there is no major impact to the industry, but if there is we feel well positioned.

Well i already got a list i want to buy and cant wait. My B day next month too so it will be a good time to buy for me. Yeah i thought about not to raise panic my self but i dont have much knowledge about indo and kratom, just following news, and i am glad to hear there is no need to panic. we need more vendors opinions here who buy from the source and talk to them directly to get insight. I really trust this info more then whats on the news or propaganda about kratom these days. Thanks for the heads up./

[mivanqua]

The CDC has addressed the concenrn of packages from China being contaminated stating that the virus cannot live outside a host long and would be dead within the timeframe of a shipped product. However, the shipping industries themselves may be crippled in a worst case scenario.

One of the used kratom shipping lanes does go through China, my guess is it is possible for some suppliers to be affected (those who are "smuggling"). Of course, the virus could spread in Indonesia which would create a whole new set of challenges.

By no means would I encourage a panic buy, we are nowhere near needing to consider this. Panic buys are absolutely terrible for the community and often results in increased prices and terrible quality. There will no doubt be unscrupulous vendors that will begin spreading propoganda to cash in my on public concern. Please do not fall for it, I would let this community know immediately if I saw the threat. Just something to keep an eye on...

Through sheer luck and coincidence, TFH is fortunately prepared for the worst case scenario. This year we have spent a great deal of time working on a technique that midigates the effects of the rainy season, but we did not quite get things to where we wanted. We absolutely gained some ground, but fell short of finding a total and realistic solve. Recognizing our failure early, we implemented our back up plan, which was to invest HEAVILY in producing and purchasing during two specific events in Dec and Jan. Our goal was to ensure we had inevtory to last through the rainy season in the event that there were some significant quality drop-offs. With that, we have over 35 batches that are about to conclude testing and another 55 or so on deck that we plan to test and release over the next 4-5 months. I hope there is no major impact to the industry, but if there is we feel well positioned.

I feel VERY confident that you absolutely would let us know if something were afoot. I'm pretty sure this is another Ebola Zaire false alarm/scare, or at least I hope so anyway. I am under the impression that it thrives in those who are young and those with a compromised immune system and people in neither of those groups are fine. There is also a conspiracy theory (for what it's worth, if anything) that the problem lies with 5G and its unrolling in China. Who knows though, right? I did see a video of people screaming in the Chinese night because they were welded into their houses and starving, sounds trippy and really spooky, but again, the higher ups have a penchant for drama....I'll edit with the video and you can make your own decisions from there, just don't get too riled up until you see stuff with your OWN eyes, not the cameras eye, if you know what I mean....

Edit - here you go, at least they are screaming positive stuff, right?

https://youtu.be/bqXfnN76S-I

[brave777]

Mivanqua you mean this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLVIbPt ... e=youtu.be on 5G and how it makes bacteria and viruses multiple and that is how the COVID19 spread.

Edit: If you think Wuhon was the first to start and complete 5G grid.
Edit: more news on corona and how it eats up oxygen? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H5wuX2 ... e=youtu.be

[mivanqua]

No, I didnt see that. I just read that coincidentally they kicked of 5G in Wuhan around the time of the "outbreak" Again, no clue if it's true, just a possibility to explore if interested. There are too many theories to keep up with, to be honest. There ARE and HAVE BEEN pandemics/epidemics on Earth through history, so that's not out of the question either. Nor is the idea that they are lying about the seriousness of it as they did with Bird Flu and Ebola. The jury is still out on this one. Likely will be for a long time to come.

[brave777]

Also a lot of people think "The Georgia Guidestones" message has started. And it started in Wuhon, agenda is 500 million people on earth.

SINISTER SITESSinister Sites: The Georgia Guidestones
https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersit ... idestones/

[mivanqua]

Like Rob Crow once said " You should know I'm no end of days man...."
And I'm not. I'm more of a "Third verse same as the first" Gordon Gano/Violent Femmes type of guy.

[KurtisCards]

Also a lot of people think "The Georgia Guidestones" message has started. And it started in Wuhon, agenda is 500 million people on earth.

SINISTER SITESSinister Sites: The Georgia Guidestones
https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersit ... idestones/

Way more people would be dying if 500 million was the goal lol im sure If the "wealthy Elite" wanted something like this to happen, they would just go around shooting people lol

[brave777]

Also a lot of people think "The Georgia Guidestones" message has started. And it started in Wuhon, agenda is 500 million people on earth.

SINISTER SITESSinister Sites: The Georgia Guidestones
https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersit ... idestones/

Way more people would be dying if 500 million was the goal lol im sure If the "wealthy Elite" wanted something like this to happen, they would just go around shooting people lol

Yeah i agree, the other side of the coin is to get everyone to get a flu shot but its not the same ol flu shot that was a year ago. smart people will research whats in it and the rest will have to learn the hard way. And it can easily be confused with corona once you get it. I know some like to get it so i wont go in details and leave it as is. Not to say that 4G LTE can be flipped into 5G to the max which what happened in wuhon and if you weaken your body with a shot, 5G will do the rest because they both work in harmony. But to those who get a shot and get sick from it, i would highly advice look at the map where to go in mountains, friends house or vacation away from heavily activated 5G city's. Or find high source of immune build up, like vitamin C, take extra of that. There are many natural immune builders out there, so stock up just in case if you end up needing.

[fusedflora]

The CDC has addressed the concenrn of packages from China being contaminated stating that the virus cannot live outside a host long and would be dead within the timeframe of a shipped product. However, the shipping industries themselves may be crippled in a worst case scenario.

One of the used kratom shipping lanes does go through China, my guess is it is possible for some suppliers to be affected (those who are "smuggling"). Of course, the virus could spread in Indonesia which would create a whole new set of challenges.

By no means would I encourage a panic buy, we are nowhere near needing to consider this. Panic buys are absolutely terrible for the community and often results in increased prices and terrible quality. There will no doubt be unscrupulous vendors that will begin spreading propoganda to cash in my on public concern. Please do not fall for it, I would let this community know immediately if I saw the threat. Just something to keep an eye on...

Through sheer luck and coincidence, TFH is fortunately prepared for the worst case scenario. This year we have spent a great deal of time working on a technique that midigates the effects of the rainy season, but we did not quite get things to where we wanted. We absolutely gained some ground, but fell short of finding a total and realistic solve. Recognizing our failure early, we implemented our back up plan, which was to invest HEAVILY in producing and purchasing during two specific events in Dec and Jan. Our goal was to ensure we had inevtory to last through the rainy season in the event that there were some significant quality drop-offs. With that, we have over 35 batches that are about to conclude testing and another 55 or so on deck that we plan to test and release over the next 4-5 months. I hope there is no major impact to the industry, but if there is we feel well positioned.

Agree with Chris.

I'd advise Coronavirus can live without a host for roughly 9 days depending on the surface.

The trip from Indonesia with applicable times through customs is usually 10-12 days. I wouldn't be concerned with it in batches, but more concerned of it being on the box/mail, as most ports and handling would have extremely high probability of contacting of human handlers or boxes. That is not saying it couldn't happen, just that probability would be higher to be affected by shipping papers than the batch. I think more likely you get it from your chinese restaurant, china town, or a McDonald's worker (they don't wear masks).