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nearbypen1 wrote: I have only been taking kratom for about 4 months ...

BallzDeep9 wrote:

nearbypen1 wrote: I have only been taking kratom for about 4 months ...

yeah 4 months, is right after your Honeymoon is over.. right about when Tolerance kicks in, doing too much kratom? You know when kratom "stops working" you're feeling tired in between doses, getting side effects like brain fog, and you no longer enjoy kratom it just makes you feel OK "normal" ? That's not the vendors fault usually it's the majority of people abuse kratom like its a drug or something... it's not.

Out of your List, Otie's Botanical and Soap Korner are certainly good, (Soap maybe a little over priced?) and Hippo as we've discussed here is WAY over priced.. Maybe try a RE-set taper down/ Agmatine Sulfate/ over 1 week and finally 2 days off. BOOM start back on 2-3 low servings per day, the Magic Is Back!

KratomGod wrote:I mean there are so many different vendors I could recommend here because there are so many high quality kratom sellers. Check the vendors list for the full list of approved vendors but some standouts off the top of my head, that you haven't tried, would be TFH (exclusive to forum members), LOE (MeWe vendor), 7ohm (great pricing), and Benni Botanicals. My personal favorite is LOE but all the vendors here have great leaf overall.

nearbypen1 wrote:

BallzDeep9 wrote:

nearbypen1 wrote: I have only been taking kratom for about 4 months ...

yeah 4 months, is right after your Honeymoon is over.. right about when Tolerance kicks in, doing too much kratom? You know when kratom "stops working" you're feeling tired in between doses, getting side effects like brain fog, and you no longer enjoy kratom it just makes you feel OK "normal" ? That's not the vendors fault usually it's the majority of people abuse kratom like its a drug or something... it's not.

Out of your List, Otie's Botanical and Soap Korner are certainly good, (Soap maybe a little over priced?) and Hippo as we've discussed here is WAY over priced.. Maybe try a RE-set taper down/ Agmatine Sulfate/ over 1 week and finally 2 days off. BOOM start back on 2-3 low servings per day, the Magic Is Back!

Yeah that makes sense actually. I'm not saying those vendors suck was just wondering why I am not feeling it anymore. Oties was good the first burn defiantly, they all work for me(except the one I mentioned) just my tolerance is too high I guess. I started off using just 1/4 of a teaspoon, when my tolerance started going up I started taking more when I asked for tips on facebook. I will look into the agmatine Sulfate taper. Thanks for the solid tips.

Make sure you're rotating strains as much as possible, and try to wait between doses as long as you can (of course if your priority is pain management, you'll likely end up dosing more often but sounds like you're using it for the effects on mood). Rotating strains keeps the tolerance down and the burns more consistently better. I don't know why, because all kratom has the same alkaloids just in varying levels, but swapping strains definitely works. I'm well beyond my honeymoon phase.. like, 4 years beyond it but i still get consistent effects out of my burns because i wait 20+ hours between doses and rotate strains often. Never use the same one more than 3 days in a row, and usually rotate daily unless i'm *really* fond of a strain.

STH is my go to vendor right now, i've liked nearly every strain i've ordered from him, you'll likely like at least some of what you get from him. i haven't tried TFH but based on the hype around here I'd imagine it's very good, so id definitely try some of that as well. Soultanic, mitraman, liza's are some other vendors that have consistently good feedback. Sosa as well, i know there was some drama "exit scamming" recently but it turns out that wasn't the case and he just got backed up on orders.

I rotate every dose which is kinda overwhelming. It seems like rotating strains everyday might be more manageable. I can tell between doses that I get withdraw effects if its not my from my favorite strain/vendor so I end up taking more. I'm excited for my order from STH to arrive sounds promising. Hopefully I will be tapered down by then. Thank you for the recommendations.

gopher wrote:

I rotate every dose which is kinda overwhelming. It seems like rotating strains everyday might be more manageable. I can tell between doses that I get withdraw effects if its not my from my favorite strain/vendor so I end up taking more. I'm excited for my order from STH to arrive sounds promising. Hopefully I will be tapered down by then. Thank you for the recommendations.

Rotating "strains" doesn't prevent any sort of tolerance build up to one specific strain. If you like a certain batch, just stick with it. Any kratom you consume is going to have the same alkaloids, just in different amounts. Strains are largely a marketing tactic after all.

Hallie wrote:Came across this looking for Sabai reviews and you're not the first person lately who says no effects from Leaf Of Life. I purchased A LOT from them based on great reviews in FB groups and also experienced nothing. Very disappointed and have several unopened bags. The only strain that seemed to have a somewhat good effect was Yellow Aceh, the rest nothing.