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I’m looking at their menu and there are strains listed as elite. Are those enhanced or any added extract to them?

Also, anybody else’s experience with them? Are they solid? I’m looking to get from different vendors to keep my strains constantly rotating. I read they do lab testing and that’s a key thing I appreciate with vendors.
Thanks!

The only thing elite about Hippo are his prices.

Cbest011 wrote:I’m looking at their menu and there are strains listed as elite. Are those enhanced or any added extract to them?

Also, anybody else’s experience with them? Are they solid? I’m looking to get from different vendors to keep my strains constantly rotating. I read they do lab testing and that’s a key thing I appreciate with vendors.
Thanks!

Sounds like they're legit for everything you're looking for? As much money as your about to dish out they'd probably happily show you some lab results..

I have no idea about the "Elite" batches, I haven't bought from them, nor plan to..

Good luck!!!

Probably the best I've ever had. Specifically they're "elite" hippo (Green Maeng Da). But the red Hulu was real good and the red and green Bali were good too.

Imo just too expensive. I could never afford more than a 4oz bag. If I could afford more than I would still be using it.

But yeah they're solid and he'll throw in some samples too! Like I said just too pricey to order too much and too frequent from them but definitely a go-to of mine every now and then.

No, they are not enhanced. Pure kratom powder.

I like their product but agree their prices are too high if you are a heavier user. My favorites are Elite, Magic, and Red Dragon. They have some of the fastest shipping I've ever seen - often within an hour of placing the order.

Fused Flora ships fast, I know their stuff is good.

Word!
Thanks, I’ve been looking at fused flora too. With the hippo, I don’t want to destroy my savings. Maybe I’ll get one or two from the hippo. We shall see!

Cbest011 wrote:Word!
Thanks, I’ve been looking at fused flora too. With the hippo, I don’t want to destroy my savings. Maybe I’ll get one or two from the hippo. We shall see!

You'd like his current Hulus..

They do seriously have good quality Kratom and it’s consistent. Like a previous poster said here, if you don’t have a large daily intake and also use other more affordable vendors, HH can be a good vendor to have in rotation.

Why Pay Double? H-H doesn't even make the Top 40 vendors https://saidit.net/s/KratomVendors/comm ... ring_2020/

Put another way: What IF a vendor shorted your bag by HALF ?? Like buying 250 gram, then getting a bag in mail w/ 125

Damn! Fer real? Yeah, I haven’t ordered yet but was going to get a couple to mix in my rotation. I totally forgot about that vendor list! Okay okay, let’s take a look and go from there. I have see good words about botanical bunny, and fused flora, so maybe them over the hungry, hungry hippo

Cbest011 wrote:I’m looking at their menu and there are strains listed as elite. Are those enhanced or any added extract to them?

Also, anybody else’s experience with them? Are they solid? I’m looking to get from different vendors to keep my strains constantly rotating. I read they do lab testing and that’s a key thing I appreciate with vendors.
Thanks!

Happy Hippo is a controversial topic around here. However, some of their stuff is pretty good. The only thing I ever purchase from them anymore (because of their prices) is their super red indo/borneo powder. It's that one strain that consistently hits me in all the right spots. Tried many vendors, but none have had a strain that works so well for me individually. They're no where near my favorite vendor... they just happen to have my favorite strain.

Yes they are controversial. Again, I say it is highly dependent on how much you use. My first year taking kratom I averaged ~5 grams per week and always bought <100g at a time. Cost ~$2 per week and I felt it was worth it for quality product, great customer service, and lab testing. Most vendors here offer 100g as smallest size, which seemed crazy to me then.

It's like saying you should never buy a soda at a vending machine because you can buy a case cheaper at Costco.

For most people on this forum, they are not the right vendor.

fused flora sells ounces for 4.50 i think, so does bot bunny

Fused Flora does lab test and has a better reputation of quality than Happy Hippo, also he sources from all over the map in Indonesia, not just 100 different names of the same bulk cargo kratom from Nugroz...

Personally, I got very little out of my Fused Flora order. Maybe I just got bad strains/batches. I know others love it though, so definitely a good option if it works for you.

TheStanman wrote:Personally, I got very little out of my Fused Flora order. Maybe I just got bad strains/batches. I know others love it though, so definitely a good option if it works for you.

That's cool, you should stick around and get on the trading post, those batches would be quicker to be bought up than the Hippo..

CatfatherB wrote:

TheStanman wrote: That's cool, you should stick around and get on the trading post, those batches would be quicker to be bought up than the Hippo..

Yeah I should check out the trading post. Right now I've been enjoying MitraMan, Denette, and TFH

I don't purchase Hippo anymore, was just saying I think they have good leaf but serve a different type of customer than those on this board.

TheStanman wrote:

CatfatherB wrote:

TheStanman wrote: That's cool, you should stick around and get on the trading post, those batches would be quicker to be bought up than the Hippo..

Yeah I should check out the trading post. Right now I've been enjoying MitraMan, Denette, and TFH

I don't purchase Hippo anymore, was just saying I think they have good leaf but serve a different type of customer than those on this board.

Of course, just trying to help you get something else that you may like.. yeah, there more Hippo friendly forums, I agree!

I have used happy hippo for the last two years and always have gotten good quality stuff from them but they really are pricey. I’ve been having trouble finding another vendor with stuff that hits me like HH does. I can’t post on reddit or Facebook groups to ask so I found this site and hopefully it will lead me to some more affordable vendors with as good or better than happy hippo. I can’t afford 200 dollars for a kilo. So I need to find other vendors. But if pride doesn’t matter to you then HH is a good one to go to.

ZoomingKramer wrote:I’ve been having trouble finding another vendor with stuff that hits me like HH does.

Have you tried some popular vendors on this site?

[quote="ZoomingKramer"]I have used happy hippo for the last two years and always have gotten good quality stuff from them but they really are pricey. I’ve been having trouble finding another vendor with stuff that hits me like HH does./quote]



Who were the the vendors that you tried that didn't quite measure up to the Hippo?

Just a heads up, Fused Flora is out of a lot of his strains, but should be getting them shortly. Another option is Lucky Herbals, he tests his as well, and he just restocked with some good season fire. Green Maeng Da, Green Hulu, Green Bali, Super Green always stand out, and he just added a couple new reds, Sumatra, and Horn. Very good price as well, but only sells 100g or higher. I used to use Happy Hippo when I first started out, and like a couple people have mentioned they have a few standout strains that are consistently good, but most of it is mediocre at best and way over priced.

I would guess that elite might mean best sellers “Hyper”, “Rockstar” etc. but I don’t really know. Ask and they will respond. They are up front about why they charge more than anyone because, the’ve been asked a million times such as wanting to pay their employees more etc. Felt like their product was solid but they are definitely not popular here.Not here to defend them at all, their prices are high! I have used them in the past before I discovered Double M. And now there are so many vendors to choose from. I’m in the process of trying others. Just ordered 500g. from MitraMan Sumatra and it was a pretty hefty amount and a good slow. TFH is always a good option and everyone here knows that. That’s why he sells out a week in advance. Don’t get mad at him. A lot of users now have more kratom than they could use for the next couple of years.

Elite is the name for their Green Malay. It's just a particular strain.

And you're right about having way too much right now And I still just placed my first order with Lucky.

PopTarte wrote:... A lot of users now have more kratom than they could use for the next couple of years.

True. Many of us originally "stocked up" thinking we'd need like 16 gpd or some ridiculous amount.. then figure out, we're only using a quarter of that.. Maybe 4-6 gpd ?? So the big 5-Year stash is now like twenty years worth.

And... Has anyone noticed? There's almost NO threat of "bans" anymore, except for AKA fear-mongering for dollars.. Not ONE word from FDA, regarding kratom in over 2 years!!

CatfatherB wrote:

ZoomingKramer wrote:I have used happy hippo for the last two years and always have gotten good quality stuff from them but they really are pricey. I’ve been having trouble finding another vendor with stuff that hits me like HH does./quote]



Who were the the vendors that you tried that didn't quite measure up to the Hippo?

I have tried mystic island, kraken, way more naturals, kratom virtue, remarkable herbs, and a smoke shop brand called affinity. I just picked up some mitragaia today and it is probably about the same potency as HH.

TheStanman wrote:

ZoomingKramer wrote:I’ve been having trouble finding another vendor with stuff that hits me like HH does.

Have you tried some popular vendors on this site?

I haven’t. I just now got an account on this forum. I have been reading Reddit and tried to ask for recommendations there but it said I can’t talk about vendors and that’s how I ended up here.

ZoomingKramer wrote:

TheStanman wrote:

ZoomingKramer wrote:I’ve been having trouble finding another vendor with stuff that hits me like HH does.

Have you tried some popular vendors on this site?

I haven’t. I just now got an account on this forum. I have been reading Reddit and tried to ask for recommendations there but it said I can’t talk about vendors and that’s how I ended up here.

Nice that you could join us, ZoomingKramer. You've done something really good for yourself. Have you seen our Vendor's List: https://saidit.net/s/KratomVendors/comm ... ring_2020/.

Ballzdeep brings us updates of the best vendors, and he keeps an eye on things from a consumer's and a vendor' point of view, so you are sure to find kratom that you enjoy for fair prices in that list. The members here are also generous with reviews and advice.

Good luck and enjoy

ZoomingKramer wrote:

TheStanman wrote:

ZoomingKramer wrote:I’ve been having trouble finding another vendor with stuff that hits me like HH does.

Have you tried some popular vendors on this site?

I haven’t. I just now got an account on this forum. I have been reading Reddit and tried to ask for recommendations there but it said I can’t talk about vendors and that’s how I ended up here.

I'm glad you found us! Welcome!

It's mediocre leaf with flashy bags and costs a fortune. It's not bad leaf but it's not as good as alot of other vendors , my first time buying was happy hippo but I found other kratom just as good and in most cases better For a ton less money.

ZoomingKramer wrote:

CatfatherB wrote:

ZoomingKramer wrote:I have used happy hippo for the last two years and always have gotten good quality stuff from them but they really are pricey. I’ve been having trouble finding another vendor with stuff that hits me like HH does./quote]



Who were the the vendors that you tried that didn't quite measure up to the Hippo?

I have tried mystic island, kraken, way more naturals, kratom virtue, remarkable herbs, and a smoke shop brand called affinity. I just picked up some mitragaia today and it is probably about the same potency as HH.

If "MitraGaia's" quality is just as good as Happy Hippo then I would pick Gaia to save the extra money, you're probably right on with that assessment both companies probably buy from the same bulk cargo kratom they import by the tons. I'm glad you found us, dude!!

If "MitraGaia's" quality is just as good as Happy Hippo then I would pick Gaia to save the extra money, you're probably right on with that assessment both companies probably buy from the same bulk cargo kratom they import by the tons. I'm glad you found us, dude!! [/quote]

Yeah after a couple days I think HH is a tad bit better that gaia but they are more than half the price. I think I will try some of the vendors listed on this site. I emailed mitra man but still haven’t heard back. And thanks! I’m glad I found this place too so I can find better vendors and better info. Everything I read on Reddit just sounds like shill reviews. You just never really know until you spend the money and try the vendors stuff

BallzDeep9 wrote:

PopTarte wrote:... A lot of users now have more kratom than they could use for the next couple of years.

True. Many of us originally "stocked up" thinking we'd need like 16 gpd or some ridiculous amount.. then figure out, we're only using a quarter of that.. Maybe 4-6 gpd ?? So the big 5-Year stash is now like twenty years worth.

And... Has anyone noticed? There's almost NO threat of "bans" anymore, except for AKA fear-mongering for dollars.. Not ONE word from FDA, regarding kratom in over 2 years!!

Because they know that their motives were NOT sound.
Nobody is buying what they are selling and if they expect to have ANY credibility down the line (with the normies that is, they've completely lost ALL credibility in the kratom community by now) they are going to have to realize that an organization FOR THE PEOPLE should not be taking kickbacks to promote one pharmaceutical or other OR have stock/directors who just stepped off of the board of one pharma giant or other. Organizations like the FDA and CDC would be SUPER AWESOME to have around IF they weren't so easily bought. This whole "rush for a COVID vaccine" (which SHOULD be tested for YEARS, not weeks) should show you all you need to see from these organizations/pharma fronts. HINT : they ARE NOT rushing for OUR benefit. Then WHOSE??? Hmmmm....

I think the AKA has been pretty successful, and this is coming from someone who agrees that they're slimeballs. Before their efforts, kratom in general was the enemy and had to be abolished completely. What they did is shift the argument - they said the problem isn't kratom, it's the unregulated nature of the supply chain, it's the extracts, it's truck stop stuff spiked with evil drugs, etc. They said what we need is a GMP certification, ban the extracts, clean it up and have a healthy supplement industry.

It's complete bullshit, of course, they created a boogeyman with the fake issue of spiked product. That wasn't what the naysayers were on about, they wanted to ban kratom because of its inherent nature, the issue of opioid agonism. The AKA got everyone to forget that part and instead think that kratom is just another health supplement, and the reason anyone was upset about it was that it might be contaminated. I think it was brilliant misdirection. They've enriched themselves and have occupied a place in the industry that isn't welcome, but I still think they did something really useful.

BallzDeep9 wrote:

PopTarte wrote:... A lot of users now have more kratom than they could use for the next couple of years.

True. Many of us originally "stocked up" thinking we'd need like 16 gpd or some ridiculous amount.. then figure out, we're only using a quarter of that.. Maybe 4-6 gpd ?? So the big 5-Year stash is now like twenty years worth.

And... Has anyone noticed? There's almost NO threat of "bans" anymore, except for AKA fear-mongering for dollars.. Not ONE word from FDA, regarding kratom in over 2 years!!

Have you not heard the AKA is now involved in a plan with the FDA to only allow GMP compliant vendors to import and sell kratom legally, it is happening very soon so unless all of these really great smaller vendors pushing quality over quantity have 100K they will not be able to sell.

Corde32 wrote:Have you not heard the AKA is now involved in a plan with the FDA to only allow GMP compliant vendors to import and sell kratom legally, it is happening very soon so unless all of these really great smaller vendors pushing quality over quantity have 100K they will not be able to sell.

Saw this, originaly posted on Facebook - check it out - AKA "Truth In Labeling" ?? https://i.redd.it/mcsyfm0y6ue51.jpg

BallzDeep9 wrote:

Corde32 wrote:Have you not heard the AKA is now involved in a plan with the FDA to only allow GMP compliant vendors to import and sell kratom legally, it is happening very soon so unless all of these really great smaller vendors pushing quality over quantity have 100K they will not be able to sell.

Saw this, originaly posted on Facebook - check it out - AKA "Truth In Labeling" ?? https://i.redd.it/mcsyfm0y6ue51.jpg

They're gonna turn "bad actors" in to the FDA..like it's gonna change the FDA's mind about kratom? Why give the FDA more ammunition? Laughable..

CatfatherB wrote:

BallzDeep9 wrote:

Corde32 wrote:Have you not heard the AKA is now involved in a plan with the FDA to only allow GMP compliant vendors to import and sell kratom legally, it is happening very soon so unless all of these really great smaller vendors pushing quality over quantity have 100K they will not be able to sell.

Saw this, originaly posted on Facebook - check it out - AKA "Truth In Labeling" ?? https://i.redd.it/mcsyfm0y6ue51.jpg

They're gonna turn "bad actors" in to the FDA..like it's gonna change the FDA's mind about kratom? Why give the FDA more ammunition? Laughable..

Sucking up to the FDA is not going to get them what they want. It's not even structured as a compromise; AKA is on its way to killing the whole community.

RumRunner wrote:The only thing elite about Hippo are his prices.

hahahaha, THE TRUTH. Good quality kratom but no better than most of the vendors selling for a third of the price