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im looking for a strong calming green similar to Sosa Green Horn or like TFH Wild Crafter Gold? Suggestions. I need an alternative since SOSA is too busy these days.

Mitraman Green Jong Kong will do the trick. Also whenever D-615 is stocked with Green Bone it hits me like Sosa green horn.

I find Liza's greens to be mostly calming, Green Crow, Green Nugroz, Super Green Elephant 2, Premium Maeng Da 3. Also you might want to try Lucky's when the rest of his new stock comes in. It's all exceptional, and the Green Maeng Da is possibly the best leaf I've had this year. All of Lucky's greens have a calming effect to them as well.

zachdank wrote:Mitraman Green Jong Kong will do the trick. Also whenever D-615 is stocked with Green Bone it hits me like Sosa green horn.

Have you tried the new GJK batch? It isn't hitting me too well, nor are the new PMD and Red Horn. I'm curious to see what others think because it may well be that my brain is fried from the new Rhino Remedies stuff I got at the same time.

The_Kraken wrote:

zachdank wrote:Mitraman Green Jong Kong will do the trick. Also whenever D-615 is stocked with Green Bone it hits me like Sosa green horn.

Have you tried the new GJK batch? It isn't hitting me too well, nor are the new PMD and Red Horn. I'm curious to see what others think because it may well be that my brain is fried from the new Rhino Remedies stuff I got at the same time.

I have GJK and PMD on the way so will let you know. I had the PMD and Red Horn in June and they were fantastic.

OP - I recommend Denette's Green Grampa - exactly what you described for me. And MitraMan's PMD.

The_Kraken wrote:

zachdank wrote:Mitraman Green Jong Kong will do the trick. Also whenever D-615 is stocked with Green Bone it hits me like Sosa green horn.

Have you tried the new GJK batch? It isn't hitting me too well, nor are the new PMD and Red Horn. I'm curious to see what others think because it may well be that my brain is fried from the new Rhino Remedies stuff I got at the same time.

Ha i feel ya bru. No the new GJK does in fact hit very well for me. Same with MM Red thai. Better than most of the recent TFH i got. So did the red horn. I think a lot of us face tolerance issues a lot and try to reflect it on certain vendors. Not saying you, im saying most of us. Ive had it down to where the exact same gpd worked to perfection on giving me great burns for an entire 6 months straight, then boom over night with zero changes my tolerance is shot and certain vendors who i know have quality batches no longer work at all. I know quite a few peeps that have the current batch of red horn and gjk that all get great burns from it. I had a batch back in feb/march of red horn that was bunk for sure. But Mitraman is such a good dude he made it up to me and sent me a bunch of fresh batches months later.

zachdank wrote:
Ha i feel ya bru. No the new GJK does in fact hit very well for me. Same with MM Red thai. Better than most of the recent TFH i got. So did the red horn. I think a lot of us face tolerance issues a lot and try to reflect it on certain vendors. Not saying you, im saying most of us. Ive had it down to where the exact same gpd worked to perfection on giving me great burns for an entire 6 months straight, then boom over night with zero changes my tolerance is shot and certain vendors who i know have quality batches no longer work at all. I know quite a few peeps that have the current batch of red horn and gjk that all get great burns from it. I had a batch back in feb/march of red horn that was bunk for sure. But Mitraman is such a good dude he made it up to me and sent me a bunch of fresh batches months later.

That's awesome, man, I love MitraMan. I only take each batch once every 4 days at most, and the previous batches of PMD and Red Horn still work for me. Maybe it's just that the new ones are different and I shouldn't go in expecting something very specific. That often messes me up.

The_Kraken wrote:
That's awesome, man, I love MitraMan. I only take each batch once every 4 days at most, and the previous batches of PMD and Red Horn still work for me. Maybe it's just that the new ones are different and I shouldn't go in expecting something very specific. That often messes me up.

I hear u. Kratom is an incredibly confusing plant. Seams like the only guarantee is to dose so rarely that tolerance cant be an issue. As in dosing every other day
Like im ever gonna do that lol. But if you're only dosing every other day or less often than that even? Then i feel you're truly qualified to judge every batch from every vendor. There are so many crazy factors involved in good burns it makes my head spin.
Its like, did you get your exercise in today? You get your super healthy 8 hours of sleep? Is your diet on point? hows your stress levels? Is your dosing down to a lower amount and spaced out every 12 hours or more?
LMAO man the boxes you have to check in order to never question why a batch isn't hitting proper. Its intense.
But same as you, ive had batches from certain vendors that im positive were bunk and i see a good group of different people saying that exact batch is fire for them. Thats when im like damn, im doing something wrong lol

Lol thats great, i just checked this for the first time since i posted it and without reading your suggestion i used my gut and just so happen to order mitramans green jk and pmd as well as gold borneo haha. Thats sweet