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I've heard it's white maeng da. What do you think?

classichenry wrote:I've heard it's white maeng da. What do you think?

No one can answer this question, you need try a bunch of strains out yourself. Even then the batches matter more than the specific type.

That said I really enjoy TFH rocket red right now. Their wild harvest premium green maeng da is also wonderful.

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zachdank wrote:Careful now

Haha too late I done seen it

High mitragynine content. These seem to be the most euphoric for me these are strains that usually start off very energetic and uplifting but as the mitragynine converts in the liver to 7-hydroxymitragynine intense sedation and analgesia take over perhaps even "nodding." Some people don't like this as it can be distracting or too intoxicating lol. I've only had a couple of batches do this in the last 6 months or so but man it's great when you do get these batches.

mitragy9 wrote:High mitragynine content. These seem to be the most euphoric for me these are strains that usually start off very energetic and uplifting but as the mitragynine converts in the liver to 7-hydroxymitragynine intense sedation and analgesia take over perhaps even "nodding." Some people don't like this as it can be distracting or too intoxicating lol. I've only had a couple of batches do this in the last 6 months or so but man it's great when you do get these batches.

I agree with the high mit content but I also think that there are other alks in kratom that definitely impact as well. I have had some batches that were posted with lab results showing high mit contents that didnt really hit that great not sure if they werent legit or what, but I also think the TFH business model of not just relying on mit contents, but relying on overall consumer testing also may show there is more to things than just mit content

Corde32 wrote:

zachdank wrote:Careful now

Haha too late I done seen it

Corde32 wrote:

mitragy9 wrote:High mitragynine content. These seem to be the most euphoric for me these are strains that usually start off very energetic and uplifting but as the mitragynine converts in the liver to 7-hydroxymitragynine intense sedation and analgesia take over perhaps even "nodding." Some people don't like this as it can be distracting or too intoxicating lol. I've only had a couple of batches do this in the last 6 months or so but man it's great when you do get these batches.

I agree with the high mit content but I also think that there are other alks in kratom that definitely impact as well. I have had some batches that were posted with lab results showing high mit contents that didnt really hit that great not sure if they werent legit or what, but I also think the TFH business model of not just relying on mit contents, but relying on overall consumer testing also may show there is more to things than just mit content

Oh yeah that's for sure it's definitely a ratio of all the alkaloids that really make it heavy hitting leaf. But as a general rule high mitragynine % will = potent effects most of the time.

mitragy9 wrote: Oh yeah that's for sure it's definitely a ratio of all that alkaloids that really make it heavy hitting leaf. But as a general rule high mitragynine % will = potent effects most of the time.

I agree, but i think sometimes either the mit content isnt equal throughout the entire batch and can be more or less concentrated in certain test samples or that there have been some vendors intentionally posting higher mit contents on their websites than what really came back because i have tried some that the mit content was like 1.8 and it not be that great.

Corde32 wrote:

mitragy9 wrote: Oh yeah that's for sure it's definitely a ratio of all that alkaloids that really make it heavy hitting leaf. But as a general rule high mitragynine % will = potent effects most of the time.

I agree, but i think sometimes either the mit content isnt equal throughout the entire batch and can be more or less concentrated in certain test samples or that there have been some vendors intentionally posting higher mit contents on their websites than what really came back because i have tried some that the mit content was like 1.8 and it not be that great.

Ha I just experienced that a few days ago and have multiple times. I've noticed sometimes there are "hotspots" when going through a bag of kratom. Where all of a sudden the same dose will wreck you for seemingly no reason lol. As far as lab testing if it's anything like the Marijuana industry I wouldn't trust any vendors numbers lol. Actual lab testing for batches is insanely expensive it's much easier and cheaper to find a "lab" that will fake your results. Bunch of hemp/cbd/delta8 companies just got blasted about this on reddit. Someone found out they were all using fake COA's from the same testing lab.

mitragy9 wrote: Ha I just experienced that a few days ago and have multiple times. I've noticed sometimes there are "hotspots" when going through a bag of kratom. Where all of a sudden the same dose will wreck you for seemingly no reason lol. As far as lab testing if it's anything like the Marijuana industry I wouldn't trust any vendors numbers lol. Actual lab testing for batches is insanely expensive it's much easier and cheaper to find a "lab" that will fake your results. Bunch of hemp/cbd/delta8 companies just got blasted about this on reddit. Someone found out they were all using fake COA's from the same testing lab.

This makes alot of sense. I agree that sometimes it seems like the top part or the bottom of the bag is stronger than the rest of the bag. I can definitely see that the labs being so expensive and many vendors knowing a large portion of kratom consumers are looking for lab tested leaf and so it is very easy for them to just post pictures of tests and photo shop them or fake them in one way or another rather than to actually have each individual batch tested. Damn the kratom industry is some crazy shit dude, from all of the craziness that has went on lately with some of the most raved about vendors from the past few years falling from grace in rock star fashion to the dishonest tactics used by some. I swear man they need to make a movie about the kratom industry spanning across the last decade.

Corde32 wrote: This makes alot of sense. I agree that sometimes it seems like the top part or the bottom of the bag is stronger than the rest of the bag. I can definitely see that the labs being so expensive and many vendors knowing a large portion of kratom consumers are looking for lab tested leaf and so it is very easy for them to just post pictures of tests and photo shop them or fake them in one way or another rather than to actually have each individual batch tested. Damn the kratom industry is some crazy shit dude, from all of the craziness that has went on lately with some of the most raved about vendors from the past few years falling from grace in rock star fashion to the dishonest tactics used by some. I swear man they need to make a movie about the kratom industry spanning across the last decade.

hehehe a "Kratom King" netflix series would be something I would watch

Corde32 wrote:

zachdank wrote:Careful now

Haha too late I done seen it

Zachdank sent me a package that has nothing but U4EA!!

D_B_C wrote:

Corde32 wrote:

zachdank wrote:Careful now

Haha too late I done seen it

Zachdank sent me a package that has nothing but U4EA!!

Yeah he sent me some of that U4ea too. Lol

mitragy9 wrote: hehehe a "Kratom King" netflix series would be something I would watch

BRB going to pitch to netflix!

mitragy9 wrote:

Corde32 wrote:

mitragy9 wrote: Oh yeah that's for sure it's definitely a ratio of all that alkaloids that really make it heavy hitting leaf. But as a general rule high mitragynine % will = potent effects most of the time.

I agree, but i think sometimes either the mit content isnt equal throughout the entire batch and can be more or less concentrated in certain test samples or that there have been some vendors intentionally posting higher mit contents on their websites than what really came back because i have tried some that the mit content was like 1.8 and it not be that great.

Ha I just experienced that a few days ago and have multiple times. I've noticed sometimes there are "hotspots" when going through a bag of kratom. Where all of a sudden the same dose will wreck you for seemingly no reason lol. As far as lab testing if it's anything like the Marijuana industry I wouldn't trust any vendors numbers lol. Actual lab testing for batches is insanely expensive it's much easier and cheaper to find a "lab" that will fake your results. Bunch of hemp/cbd/delta8 companies just got blasted about this on reddit. Someone found out they were all using fake COA's from the same testing lab.

Hey do you have the link to this on reddit or do you mind sharing who some of the vendors that were using fake COA's are?? I'm about 2 weeks into using Delta-8 and it is amazing!! Great compliment to Kratom. I'm in a state where weed is still illegal, no medical, nothing. So Delta-8 has been an awesome alternative.

I've ordered the Delta-8 from 3chi which seem like they are the most reputable from what I read doing some research. I have a CannaAid vape cart coming today. I've also used Greatcbdshop.com as they sell a bunch of vendors and its got everything all in one site.

I really hope they don't make delta-8 illegal. I've seen a couple vendors doing massive fire sales to get rid of their delta-8 because they don't know it's legal status in the upcoming future. I think Oct 20 was the date I saw that may be the time it becomes illegal. Not sure though. Kind of reminds me of the 2016 ban scare where every vendor was selling out in last minute panic rush. I bought 6 vape carts, and they aren't cheap lol