New beginnings and strain rotation

[Psilocyberdemon]

Just spend about an hour typing up this post and lost it. So here’s a summary. Never done opiates. started burning 2 weeks ago for depression and it’s really helped. Done a lot of reading(mainly reddit) and picked up various bits and pieces that I feel are important.

If you are new to Kratom, ginger is your best friend. Dont leave home without it. Takes away nausea.
Kratom has a stable shelf life. Keep it dry and airtight.

Some guy leaves his Kratom in a bag in the sun to help potentiate the effects, opening it up for air once in a while. Not sure if this works or not but I’ve got some bunk SG Borneo to try it with.

Another man states that there are certain strains that work for his depression better than others. So I’ve been taking his suggestions. White horn, Thai, Hulu, Borneo, and Bali. Green Hulu and Horn. Red Hulu and Bali. His experience was that higher pain relieving strains are worse for depression, like most reds and greens.

Strain rotation is believed to help keep tolerance down so as to avoid side effects at higher doses. I can’t seem to avoid them at any dose. Ginger. I put my powder in capsules to avoid the taste, which isn’t bad, but mainly because it burns better for me somehow.
Somewhere said that around 1g dosing is best for depression.
I burn at around 10am every morning.

Day1: 1g W horn(Kratora). Irritable, energetic, head pressure.
Day2: 1g G hulu(Gaia). Another 1g 6 hours later. Solid energy and mood lift, little side effects.
Day3: 1g W borneo(Kratora). +4 hours another gram. Not much happening, slight nausea.
Day4: 1g G horn(Gaia). +4 hours another gram. Bad headache, lot of driving, tired feeling. Driving seems to trigger the nausea for me. Ginger.
Day5: 1g W Ketapang(herbal salv). Nothing too noticeable, similar head pressure.
Day6: 1.2g SG Borneo(C.O.B.). +45minutes, nothing. 1.3g G Hulu(herbalrva). Euphoria, mood lift, nausea, the whole package. Ginger.

Day7 coming up. May burn a white or red hulu(Gaia) which has been great. Stem and vein coming in for next weeks rotation. Will post an update then.

[whiffypants]

Welcome, Psilocyberdemon! Interesting information there, thanks. Good luck with your new regimen!

[BallzDeep9]

started burning 2 weeks ago for depression and it’s really helped.

Thanks for posting. I was diagnosed with Major Depression, like 12+ yrs ago and it's a thing that kind of hangs around for years... often not recognized in our society. Yes I've found that kratom helps. I'm also not an opiate addict, although took them off & on for years to battle.. depression!

My observations 1) you're doing a sort of LDK = Low Dose Kratom. Any reason you don't do a "standard" 3-5 gram dose? Assuming you're average size and weight and general good health? - And 2) Get some better kratom !! Gaia and Kratora are really mass market, bulk providers with many negative consumer reports on quality this year. Kratora aka "buy kratom dot US" is just an Internet ripoff. Headaches? Good chance you're doing bunk leaf, in my opinion..

[Psilocyberdemon]

When I went to the nearest Kratom shop the guy recommended I start with half a tsp and go from there, so naturally I get into my car and with a rusty spoon I try to eyeball it and prolly end up burning 3 - 4 grams. I’ve become quite fond of ginger now. Threw up in my mouth a few times. Thought I was a trooper because I could get past the taste.
I purchased WMD in 420mg capsules from online and burned two one day... nothing happened! Next morning I burn three and for the entire day I have the most awful and persistent nausea that nothing seems to help.
I’ve developed a kind of ptsd from these early experiences and I have a little fear when i burn.

Today, Day7, I decided to go with 1gram W Borneo(herbal salv). Had a decent amount of clarity and focus as well as some euphoria and overall just a pleasant experience without a noticeable comedown. Burned another gram 6 hours later and just felt tired, foggy and irritable, a sign for me to take it easy. Being a recovering addict I’m always tempted to chase the next fix.

Could be that because Gaia and others alike are more popular, there’s more reviews out there for those companies and thus a greater percentage of negatives? But I agree that a lot of vendors are ripoffs and lower price doesn’t mean lower quality here.
Says headaches are a sign of not drinking enough water, which I prolly wasn’t doing. Lately I have been making sure that whoever I buy from has their batches tested, and also sorting their product by popularity helps me to see what is likely the fresher Kratom compared to stuff that’s prolly not as fresh because it’s bought less often.

Yeah depression is a heavy shadow that returns again and again, and the cure never lasts. St. John’s wort worked for a few months. I go to a tanning bed and that has helped a lot. I smoked mugwort and mullein for a good 4 months and that helped. I was friends with Mary Jane for four years but even she turned on me. Tobacco was a pal for two years. Alcohol worked for a while. Entheogens did wonders for me mentally, and microdosing fungi still has its benefits. Thanks for the feedback.