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Ravenflow wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:43 pm I used to buy from them back in 2017 2018. I stopped buying From them when I got like three bunk batches from them they had fire ass red Bali and red MD everything else was just meh

ba2000 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:42 am

Ravenflow wrote: ↑Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:43 pm I used to buy from them back in 2017 2018. I stopped buying From them when I got like three bunk batches from them they had fire ass red Bali and red MD everything else was just meh

Near exact same. 2017 Gold MD was ridiculous, Red HK is still a bummer to hit in rotation.

Corde32 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:54 pm Yeah they used to be socal, socal had some great stuff many years ago and their green zareena is legendary. They got into some legal trouble with selling some contaminated batches(many many other vendors also landed in hot water for this back then) and ended up selling out to what is now first coast tea. Last time I checked their menu they still had some socal stuff listed

Ravenflow wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 5:19 pm

Corde32 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:54 pm Yeah they used to be socal, socal had some great stuff many years ago and their green zareena is legendary. They got into some legal trouble with selling some contaminated batches(many many other vendors also landed in hot water for this back then) and ended up selling out to what is now first coast tea. Last time I checked their menu they still had some socal stuff listed

When did they get in trouble for bad batches? Is that why they changed there name?

CatfatherB wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:41 am I dont recall them being caught up in the whole salmonella fiasco but do remember them being blamed for that "kratom fatality" when that kid died? Turned out that the kid was related to the publisher of the paper who was pushing that story..

Madvillain626 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:32 am Has anyone had the red hulu lately? Socal red hulu was one of all time favorites. If its still good 8'll definitely cop some

CatfatherB wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:41 am I dont recall them being caught up in the whole salmonella fiasco but do remember them being blamed for that "kratom fatality" when that kid died? Turned out that the kid was related to the publisher of the paper who was pushing that story..

Grimble_Gromble wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:04 pm I ordered from them a ton when they were SoCal and ordered from them a few times as First Coast Tea Co and overall I'd say their stuff was average to good but somewhat inconsistent. Some stuff was solid and some stuff was so so. I haven't ordered from them for probably a year or more at this point so don't take my word for it.

Chrisbcritter wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:08 am

Grimble_Gromble wrote: ↑Fri Mar 26, 2021 10:04 pm I ordered from them a ton when they were SoCal and ordered from them a few times as First Coast Tea Co and overall I'd say their stuff was average to good but somewhat inconsistent. Some stuff was solid and some stuff was so so. I haven't ordered from them for probably a year or more at this point so don't take my word for it.

A few years ago I thought they were tops. It's more sporadic now for me. But you can still get fire on occasion. And it's probably as 'clean' an operation as you can get. And I dont just mean the testing & cGMP standards that AKA approves. Although I mostly lurk here only, I think many of the members here have seen the potential drawbacks of those larger operations on the AKA list. In any case, 1st Coast has fancy sifter and UV irradiator and other equipment that they were using. I assume they still are. If so, should mean it's quite clean (and probably has less stem and vein in the powder than when it left indo). Anyway I'm hitting some small batch vendors for a while, but I wouldnt knock 1st Coast too hard.

WhiteAngelica wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:32 pm They didn't have a salmonella issue. Some dumbass kid overdosed on like, 20 different drugs and he happened to have some SoCal around that he was taking as well. When someone dies of any overdose, they count each drug or substance separately for an OD. This kid's parents were all over the news, yapping about how kratom killed their sweet innocent boy. They said the bags had no serving instructions on them, and I believe there was some kind of lawsuit. Perhaps it was dropped. All I know is that kratom has a built in mechanism that prevents OD's calles 'the Wobbles' and probably barf. The kid died from heroin and meth and crack, uppers, downers and candy corn. Grieving parents searching for a target found one, and hurt the whole kratom community in the process: not the fault of SoCal.

As far as the Salmonella incidents, one of the vendors was Herbal Salvation, now Viable Solutions. There is a Herbal Salvation kratom company out if Ireland that is suing Viable Options, which is ridiculous, but whatever.

SoCal/First Coast tea Co. does have a warm place in my heart. They have had fire batches in the past, and you can order 9 1oz packs for like, 25$ with the code. That way, you can sample before springing for a kilo. They can be hit or miss, but when they hit, they hit hard.

Anyone remember the crazy batches of Ref Bali they kept having a few years ago? Most of us who were around then would have wrestled an alligator in a mudpit for that fire. Fire is fire, so if OP endorses some fire First Coast strains, I'll give them a shot. 5$ an ounce? Sounds good. There is fire kratom all over the place and I don't want to miss out on an opportunity from an OG vendor.

Then again, I'm acting like I have money or something. But I do want to try their stuff--especially what you've endorsed, OP!

WhiteAngelica wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:36 pm

WhiteAngelica wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:32 pm They didn't have a salmonella issue. Some dumbass kid overdosed on like, 20 different drugs and he happened to have some SoCal around that he was taking as well. When someone dies of any overdose, they count each drug or substance separately for an OD. This kid's parents were all over the news, yapping about how kratom killed their sweet innocent boy. They said the bags had no serving instructions on them, and I believe there was some kind of lawsuit. Perhaps it was dropped. All I know is that kratom has a built in mechanism that prevents OD's calles 'the Wobbles' and probably barf. The kid died from heroin and meth and crack, uppers, downers and candy corn. Grieving parents searching for a target found one, and hurt the whole kratom community in the process: not the fault of SoCal.

As far as the Salmonella incidents, one of the vendors was Herbal Salvation, now Viable Solutions. There is a Herbal Salvation kratom company out if Ireland that is suing Viable Options, which is ridiculous, but whatever.

SoCal/First Coast tea Co. does have a warm place in my heart. They have had fire batches in the past, and you can order 9 1oz packs for like, 25$ with the code. That way, you can sample before springing for a kilo. They can be hit or miss, but when they hit, they hit hard.

Anyone remember the crazy batches of Ref Bali they kept having a few years ago? Most of us who were around then would have wrestled an alligator in a mudpit for that fire. Fire is fire, so if OP endorses some fire First Coast strains, I'll give them a shot. 5$ an ounce? Sounds good. There is fire kratom all over the place and I don't want to miss out on an opportunity from an OG vendor.

Then again, I'm acting like I have money or something. But I do want to try their stuff--especially what you've endorsed, OP!

Sorry if I was disrespectful of the kid who overdosed, but my ire was aimed more at the parents. I have seen time and time again these supposed kratom 'overdoses' have happened in conjunction with a lethal cocktail of narcotics and I rather loathe the FDA and kratom vendor witch-hunts. It's why we have to talk about candles on MeWe, and who knows, maybe someday here. It freaks me the frack out.

brave777 wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 2:05 am

WhiteAngelica wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:36 pm

WhiteAngelica wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:32 pm They didn't have a salmonella issue. Some dumbass kid overdosed on like, 20 different drugs and he happened to have some SoCal around that he was taking as well. When someone dies of any overdose, they count each drug or substance separately for an OD. This kid's parents were all over the news, yapping about how kratom killed their sweet innocent boy. They said the bags had no serving instructions on them, and I believe there was some kind of lawsuit. Perhaps it was dropped. All I know is that kratom has a built in mechanism that prevents OD's calles 'the Wobbles' and probably barf. The kid died from heroin and meth and crack, uppers, downers and candy corn. Grieving parents searching for a target found one, and hurt the whole kratom community in the process: not the fault of SoCal.

As far as the Salmonella incidents, one of the vendors was Herbal Salvation, now Viable Solutions. There is a Herbal Salvation kratom company out if Ireland that is suing Viable Options, which is ridiculous, but whatever.

SoCal/First Coast tea Co. does have a warm place in my heart. They have had fire batches in the past, and you can order 9 1oz packs for like, 25$ with the code. That way, you can sample before springing for a kilo. They can be hit or miss, but when they hit, they hit hard.

Anyone remember the crazy batches of Ref Bali they kept having a few years ago? Most of us who were around then would have wrestled an alligator in a mudpit for that fire. Fire is fire, so if OP endorses some fire First Coast strains, I'll give them a shot. 5$ an ounce? Sounds good. There is fire kratom all over the place and I don't want to miss out on an opportunity from an OG vendor.

Then again, I'm acting like I have money or something. But I do want to try their stuff--especially what you've endorsed, OP!

Sorry if I was disrespectful of the kid who overdosed, but my ire was aimed more at the parents. I have seen time and time again these supposed kratom 'overdoses' have happened in conjunction with a lethal cocktail of narcotics and I rather loathe the FDA and kratom vendor witch-hunts. It's why we have to talk about candles on MeWe, and who knows, maybe someday here. It freaks me the frack out.

I am always worried whole internet might get censored soon, i see gooogle and bing patrolling this forum?? I wonder if there is a way to block them to prevent future sensors, i dont know. But socal is very MISS or HIT but most part many time its just ok kratom, not many fires. I still have some socal i put away and most likely will never dip into them. perhaps can be give away in those who need it most.

MetalMamaRocks wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 10:15 pm Oh shit, Google bot is signed in too! I've never noticed that before!