Questions About Doseage

[hereticalpigeon]

This may be a weird question but when it comes to potent green strains, at what doseage do you usually experience overdose symptoms? I ask because I caught covid in December and have been struggling with some long lasting symptoms such as fatigue since then but I've also noticed that kratom stopped working for me when I got a new batch during the time I was initally getting over covid. Along with that I've also been experiencing some wobblieness and shaking that feels similar to kratom overdose symptoms. The confusing part is that I was only at 4 grams 3 times daily when this started but when i switched from my normal green strain to a less potent red, this went away. Switched to a different green strain from a different vendor known for having good kratom and the symptoms came back.

tl;dr Can good kratom be potent enough to cause overdose symptoms at 4 grams 3 times per day or am I just overthinking my covid longhauler symptoms?

[brave777]

Nope, strong greens suppose to be at 2 grams not more. max maybe 3 grams but thats pushing it. Reds you can go easy up to 4 grams but if very weak red around 6 grams. You over do strong green, it is true you might think you got covid, over doing it will give you very unwanted experiences. Yes, sure their is weak green kratom too but from my experience i would not go over 2 grams with greens even if its weak. You can always add more after an hour if you felt not much but if 2 grams hits you like a brick then i would never go over it. I can only imagine what high doser's will feel when they do strong green 10 gram a dose. Not all batches are same, just keep that in mind and dont get suckered in every batch is same dose, noob mistake. Especially if daily doser for many years, then the piper might be around the corner. Yes, 4 grams 3 times a day is 12 grams and you will feel fatigue and other symptoms. Even 4 grams a day for a long time will make you feel some fatigue but not a bad one compare to 12 grams. Best to do reds to reduce the WD effects and jump off kratom for a week until your mind becomes clear and stable again with no symptoms. If have to make it 2 weeks or even 3 weeks if still experiencing symptoms. Other factors can extends the symptoms like bad food choice and no exercise or over weight. I wouldn't keep doser more when you know something is off.

[hereticalpigeon]

Nope, strong greens suppose to be at 2 grams not more. max maybe 3 grams but thats pushing it. Reds you can go easy up to 4 grams but if very weak red around 6 grams. You over do strong green, it is true you might think you got covid, over doing it will give you very unwanted experiences. Yes, sure their is weak green kratom too but from my experience i would not go over 2 grams with greens even if its weak. You can always add more after an hour if you felt not much but if 2 grams hits you like a brick then i would never go over it. I can only imagine what high doser's will feel when they do strong green 10 gram a dose. Not all batches are same, just keep that in mind and dont get suckered in every batch is same dose, noob mistake. Especially if daily doser for many years, then the piper might be around the corner. Yes, 4 grams 3 times a day is 12 grams and you will feel fatigue and other symptoms. Even 4 grams a day for a long time will make you feel some fatigue but not a bad one compare to 12 grams. Best to do reds to reduce the WD effects and jump off kratom for a week until your mind becomes clear and stable again with no symptoms. If have to make it 2 weeks or even 3 weeks if still experiencing symptoms. Other factors can extends the symptoms like bad food choice and no exercise or over weight. I wouldn't keep doser more when you know something is off.

Thanks for the advice boss. Jumped down to 3 gram doses yesterday as thats the recommended dose for the strain by the vendor. If the kratom's still not working and I still have side effects in a week or so, I'll be jumping down to 2 gram doses. If that doesn't fix things, I'll just finish tapering off completely and try dosing again in a week to see how I feel.

[brave777]

Or you could just do 2 grams for a week or maybe less days to keep wd's minimum. Its not about its working or not. When jump off completely then use coffee or something else over the counter, it will help reset most of the tolerance. Low dose only works after a nice week break, so expect it not to work for a week or so, you dont have to stop kratom. After a week you will notice 2 or 3 grams is hitting you on its own. Thats when you know your tolerance is in good shape. I am convinced thats how it is from my past experience dropping down tolerance. In fact you dont have to stop kratom at all, just keep at it 2 or 3 grams per day and only use it at worst peaks of WD if can. As long as you dont have WD is all it matter, try not to feel anything or making it work. It will work on its own once tolerance is adjusted. I mean if that specific day you must have important meetings or super alert, sure take your regular dose. you dont want to wd when you need your critical thinking involved to perform the dutys. Any day at all or days offs, stick with 2 grams per day if can and only when feel at worst. But if you got use to that fatigue and you know it will go away, its best to feel it and watch your fav show or something, no one bothering you. You figure. But a big plus is, drink herbal tea's. Not green tea. Chamomiles will make you relax and sleep good. Peppermint will help you keep calm and stomach issues. Those to herbs any store sells them in tea bags, if want lil bit stronger, put 2 tea bags in a cup. like want sleep more effecting , 2 chamomiles tea bags should help. Plus Chamomiles are considered extremely soft gentle detox, so this can only mean your tolerance will return much quicker then not taking it. I am sure there is tons here who mistaking kratom wd with the flu. On a side note, kratom helps a ton to fight the flu. Hope this answered you about dosage question.