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Alright so I’m new here only second post. I had good success with the vendors list but am curious about who has the best extracts. Their are few options to choose from but I’ve bought mitragaia 50x extract in the past, and despite not liking their leaf much their extracts are cheap plus pretty potent but the only other extract I have to compare it to is Mbc botanicals. I got their Randy’s remedy plus an add on of pink lady liked the remedy but not a fan of their leaf either. I thought of trying Carolina kratom because they seem to have good selection with solid reviews. My other one I want to try is Lizas extracts but they offer no description but are the same price has mitragaia 50x, or close. I will not ever buy leaf from mitragaia again but maybe their extracts if I can’t find better quality for a reasonable price. Any thoughts, and recommendations glady appreciated especially if you’ve tried mitragaia, or the ones I listed.

I've heard that Liza's Best Botanicals has really good extract. I've not tried any but we have a couple people here who liked it.

Can I throw this out there: don't do extracts. It took me a year to bring my tolerance back down after a stint with extracts. You're better off getting with a strong vendor like Rhino, TFH, etc, etc. You'll save soo much money and enjoy every bodies products so much more. Just my thoughts. Current Rhino hits as hard as extracts used to.

Legal Herb Shoppe has all the "name brand" extracts huge selection. But best Deal ? try Herbal RVA 3 extract caps $10 bucks.. Warning start with HALF a cap, mix with a little plain leaf... RVA known for decent kratom @ low prices. These caps are bang for your buck... I enjoy once a week & so strong I get a hangover, next day.

Would Kratom that's been enhanced with extract be something that you'd accept?

I've tried the offerings of King's Kratom, The Kratom Syndicate, and In Sense Botanicals. All three are good, but I see them as something to be used rarely.

King's Kratom is more of "a little dab will do you" as I find the relatively high levels of 7-OH in its powder, plus whatever other alkaloids are in the underlying regular Kratom, are enough to set me up for going to bed.

The Kratom Syndicate's ultra enhanced capsules are more like a concentrated form of all of Kratom's effects, and very fast acting.

In Sense Botanicals Ultra Enhanced products don't contain extra 7-OH, just extra otherwise full spectrum Kratom extract on top of their already very good Kratom. I use 100 mg. of their Ultra Enhanced Fuzzy Dragon as a way to tweak my first Kratom serving of the day.

Since that might sound vague, I'll quote from the product page.

This ULTRA Enhanced Blend is Pure Plantation-grown Kratom + Kratom Extract (contains 20mg 45% Mitragynine Extract per 1g of powder).
Every gram of powder contains an added 9mg of pure Mitragynine !
Note: We always recommend limitations of any product containing extract as it can cause tolerances to rise more quickly but this blend seems to be at least 4x stronger than our normal Fuzzy Dragon. Start with much less.
Much less is needed. This blend is POTENT.
CURRENT BATCH: Mitragynine 2.1% + 7-Hydroxymitragynine is same as our regular Fuzzy Dragon Blend.
Note: Our extracts do NOT raise the % of 7-Hydroxymitragynine. They only raise Mitragynine %.

I'm not familiar with Kings Kratom but any batch that can lead to sleep is something I'd try. Which batches helped with sleep?

AlwaysSunnyInVA wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:16 pm I'm not familiar with Kings Kratom but any batch that can lead to sleep is something I'd try. Which batches helped with sleep?

On the back of the small bottle I have it says that the batch # is 101600036224.

But it looks like they sell just the one variety of their "ultimate" (enhanced) Kratom, if that's what you're asking about.

I think they offer a free sample at the link below. YMMV, but what I got from them is good.

https://buykingskratom.com/

AlwaysSunnyInVA wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:16 pm I'm not familiar with Kings Kratom but any batch that can lead to sleep

Need sleep ?? Try melatonin +Valerian root for that. This guy "Kings kratom" was a known liar & bull-shitter on Facebook, just sayin' his reputation is not great... Way too many vendors around, to deal with any sketchy ones.

I agree that kings kratom is not anything special. Thanks for the recommendations. So far Im gonna try Lizas, Carolina kratom, and calebs concentrates. I’m gonna compare them to mitragaia 50x since all the other concentrates are either more expensive or about the same price.

Thanks for the feedback- I'm gonna look into Valerian.

I have had King's Kratom, and didn't think it was anything special. They also seem to go MIA on a regular basis.

I have all of the Enhanced and Ultra Enhanced from In Sense. I didn't think they were anything great. Same thing with PDO Botanicals.

I generally try to stay away from extracts, and there is only one that works for me. Blue Diamond Herbs Godfather capsules are great, if you are looking for pain relief. They are having a sale right now as well. "Summer15" . It is 15% off & 2 free ounces with orders under $50. Over $50 gets 15% off and some Godfather capsules.

A few (6+) months ago I tried some extracts and enhanced K from The Evergreen Tree. I don't see many reviews on here but they were pretty good. Only issue was the extra high alkaloid (like 10-12%) extracts were pretty pricey. I think the super indo was my favorite the time.

Alright so I ordered Carolina kratom 50x extract got 30 grams for 54 dollars. I also ordered an ounce of 50x from mitragaia for 43 dollars with shipping; this was only because I got 30 percent off plus 20 percent for paying crypto for a total of 50 percent off. I will place an order with Caleb today most likely, and hopefully Lizas’s. I plan to buy Calebs full spectrum extract, and one of every type of lizas extract. I also decided to add all natural artisans to my list because they have a couple extracts I want to try. I will either post a review on this thread, or start another just for reviews on the different extracts. Also those anyone know what payment types Lizas’s botanicals accepts. Thanks for the help everyone.

Jking wrote: ↑Fri Jul 30, 2021 12:18 pm I plan to buy Calebs full spectrum extract,

NO. May I suggest, you get what U pay for ? Cheap extract = Weak results. You def want Caleb's Co2 Supercritical extract, -OR- get the BEST: Pure Alkaloids.

Those 2 products are exclusive, from Caleb - stronger than other Real Extract's on the market. Pure Alks you need a milligram scale, start @ 100 mg aka 1/10 of one gram. Supercritical, Co2 is a very legit, expensive, process and notice... other vendors don't have it. You need expensive Lab equipment to make Co2.

Both of those 2 Caleb's extract products, are Sold Out frequently. Why? Because they're really good... His "Full Spectrum" ? not so much. About the same as cheap extract from other vendors. ALSO ~ I think it needs to be said... Caleb's I am very sure, he sells real, pure Kratom products. Others ?? maybe not. There IS some adulterated extract out there..!! Hey - IF you really want dope, go out and cop some dope. No need to pay $$ for some spiked extract.

ADD - All Natural Artisan's products are good. Very experienced guy, knows his kratom for sure

Alright i will skip calebs because his other products are out of stock, and I agree some extracts are suspect. I would love to buy dope but I don’t do that anymore, and I appreciate the input on all natural artisans seen many good looking extracts. Which one would you recommend the most.

Oops! there you go... Caleb's best products sell out fast. He also sent an email. had death in family recently & they were taking time off.... last week.

I have not ordered from ANA = All Natural Artisan, in a couple years so, idk just read website I guess? Its sad we should get more Reviews for his stuff. Please let us know here on MM!

"Alright so I ordered Carolina kratom 50x extract got 30 grams for 54 dollars. I also ordered an ounce of 50x from mitragaia for 43 dollars with shipping"

Curious what the base % they assume. 50x @ 30 grams should equal 1.5 kilos. The ounce would be 1.4 kilo equivalent for $43.

Alright so I went with the emerald extrarct, and diamond from all natural artisans. Calebs pure alkaloids is back in stock so I may get it also. I will be comparing the extracts from 3 to 5 vendors total. I will be spacing it out some so may be a while before I’ve tried everything. Many of these extracts are different so I’m gonna mainly compare how effective one is, and how long it will last to how much I paid for it. For instance all natural artisans emerald has 25 to 28 percent mit while their diamond has 51 percent so I’m hoping they last longer has they cost more than some of the other extracts. All the vendors I will be reviewing will be on the best vendors list except mitragaia.