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Open to suggestions in strains and vendors but i have ordered a few times from different vendors this summer but havent found a whole lot that really stands out like i have previously. I found a couple thia winter that were solid honestly but not so far this summer. Anybody relate or can anyone name any suggestions that would be cool. Mitramans April SG has been working good for me but thats about it

I can sell you a sampler. I can put together just some summer leaf.
I've got some from HL, Soul, FF, LSML, and soon Mitra genie and Nodfather. Mewe is the best place.

The current Red Bali from Mitraman is pretty nice. It's my favorite after trying 16 types from his current selection. I've been feeling the same way as you. I never rule out other variables like tolerance/health issues though.

Fused Floras green Bali is amazing right now. Heaven Leafs Samarindas also.

My August order from Lucky's has been great.
- Green md is the best of my order it's a sorta fast yet relaxing green for me.
- Borneo blast, is a nice mood lift, helps my anxiety and motivation.

Dale_Tisane wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:09 pm .... I've been feeling the same way as you. I never rule out other variables like Tolerance/ health issues though.

yeah that's what pops into my head whenever someone posts about "Cant find any good Leaf" ... I'm like, what ?? There's great kratom all around, dry season!! Fresh Re-stocks happening @ a dozen good quality experienced vendors.

Some good vendors, have TOO many choices - Liza's, Fisher, Smiley, - while smaller guys on MeWe it's like 1 drop from 1 Supplier makes it easy!!

BallzDeep9 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:02 pm

Dale_Tisane wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:09 pm .... I've been feeling the same way as you. I never rule out other variables like Tolerance/ health issues though.

yeah that's what pops into my head whenever someone posts about "Cant find any good Leaf" ... I'm like, what ?? There's great kratom all around, dry season!! Fresh Re-stocks happening @ a dozen good quality experienced vendors.

Some good vendors, have TOO many choices - Liza's, Fisher, Smiley, - while smaller guys on MeWe it's like 1 drop from 1 Supplier makes it easy!!

Right!? I was paralyzed by choice during my last orders from Liza and Smiley. I literally agonized over how to even narrow my choices down.

BallzDeep9 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:02 pm

Dale_Tisane wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 6:09 pm .... I've been feeling the same way as you. I never rule out other variables like Tolerance/ health issues though.

yeah that's what pops into my head whenever someone posts about "Cant find any good Leaf" ... I'm like, what ?? There's great kratom all around, dry season!! Fresh Re-stocks happening @ a dozen good quality experienced vendors.

Some good vendors, have TOO many choices - Liza's, Fisher, Smiley, - while smaller guys on MeWe it's like 1 drop from 1 Supplier makes it easy!!

Right?! Choosing the vendor is a hard enough decision as it is. I'll have to give Liza and Smiley a try. Is Fisher herbalrva?

Dale_Tisane wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:48 pm I'll have to give Liza and Smiley a try. Is Fisher herbalRVA?

Nope sorry I was thinkin about: Fisher Tea Co. a long time "connoisseur" vendor (who never gets mentioned here on MM)... always has like 100 "strains" lol . https://fishertea.co/product-category/green-vein/

I Love me some Liza's but, she does Import from many sources... About a year ago we counted like 120 "strains" on her website . Theory being, more shipments you'll have better chance of a few really good ones... With small guys, it's like, 1 average Drop they gotta sell it & hype it anyway...

BallzDeep9 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:39 pm

Dale_Tisane wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 4:48 pm I'll have to give Liza and Smiley a try. Is Fisher herbalRVA?

Nope sorry I was thinkin about: Fisher Tea Co. a long time "connoisseur" vendor (who never gets mentioned here on MM)... always has like 100 "strains" lol . https://fishertea.co/product-category/green-vein/

I Love me some Liza's but, she does Import from many sources... About a year ago we counted like 120 "strains" on her website . Theory being, more shipments you'll have better chance of a few really good ones... With small guys, it's like, 1 average Drop they gotta sell it & hype it anyway...

Much appreciated, Ballz! Where would doublem be without you...
I'm trying to make an effort and get back on here frequently. We have to keep this community growing!

Thayden102 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:56 pm I can sell you a sampler. I can put together just some summer leaf.
I've got some from HL, Soul, FF, LSML, and soon Mitra genie and Nodfather. Mewe is the best place.

I would love to try your sampler. Would you consider making one for me, too?

Sassysquatch wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:58 pm

Thayden102 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 24, 2021 5:56 pm I can sell you a sampler. I can put together just some summer leaf.
I've got some from HL, Soul, FF, LSML, and soon Mitra genie and Nodfather. Mewe is the best place.

I would love to try your sampler. Would you consider making one for me, too?

Sure!

Very new here. Like first post new. Glad I found this place! How would I go about getting a sample pack as well!

KratomAdvocateMO wrote: ↑Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:50 pm Open to suggestions in strains and vendors but i have ordered a few times from different vendors this summer but havent found a whole lot that really stands out like i have previously. I found a couple thia winter that were solid honestly but not so far this summer. Anybody relate or can anyone name any suggestions that would be cool. Mitramans April SG has been working good for me but thats about it

Heaven leaf is amazing!! Some of the best I've ever used

Rkaltenbach wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:14 pm Heaven leaf is amazing!! Some of the best I've ever used

Same here. I'm loving the current Classic Red 3. It's perfect for pain and is very relaxing.

I'm still finishing off my summer & fall/winter 2020 leaf from a few vendors. Apparently 3kgs lasts longer than I thought. Maybe I'll get some of what's left when the Black Friday sales start hitting in <looks at his wrist where a watch would be, if he had one> about 10-11 weeks or so

tasha99 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:53 pm

Rkaltenbach wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:14 pm Heaven leaf is amazing!! Some of the best I've ever used

Same here. I'm loving the current Classic Red 3. It's perfect for pain and is very relaxing.

Super impressed with her products. And she's a hell of a nice person

Im confused. Please forgive me. Im nosey lol. Heavenleaf website for me is tobacco. Correct? Or am I missing the kratom section? Btw, I would love to know anyones personal opinions on smoking shisha. I think what its called. Dont laugh. You've all been newbies lol

bonomiprincess wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:38 pm Heavenleaf website for me is tobacco. Correct? ... Btw, I would love to know anyones personal opinions on smoking shisha.

Welcome to MM... Not smoking anything here!! .gave up all smoking of burning stuff , like.. 20 years ago. Lungs can recover!

HeavenLeaf is one of several vendors on the MeWe social media site... Kind of like a junior Facebook thing? "Chat Rooms", lots of ppl around here hang out on MeWe - personally I do prefer a website. But, with kratom & the payment situation you can't really order off a website using CC anyway.

Thank you so much for responding. I tried MEWE once but could not figure it out lol. Maybe I should try again. Seems like a lot of people on double m use mewe. I will go give it another whirl lol

bonomiprincess wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:09 am Thank you so much for responding. I tried MEWE once but could not figure it out lol. Maybe I should try again. Seems like a lot of people on double m use mewe. I will go give it another whirl lol

It's essential honestly. I only use it for kratom lol.

It truly is essential! Just like double m has been.

If this seems to be an issue. And apparently for many it very well may be.. Pull out old or vintage leaf and that will tell you.. Puts tolerance out of the equation. Good luck..

Just in my opinion, ill say that across the board in general. Not all, just in general... There has been a decrease in quality in leaf from past to present. Just pull out your older stashes and you will understand.

I think maybe since 2016-2017 the quality of leaf declined a bit. It's been discussed on here before that the increasing demand has led to earlier harvests and less mature trees remaining to be harvested. However, This year I have been enjoying some excellent leaf. Enough for me to feel there's even been an uptick in quality. Maybe it's because some of the small batch vendors on here have been able to secure quality/reliable/sustainable sources? I know some of the small vendors also go to great lengths testing for quality and experimenting with different curing methods. It's always hard to know exactly what makes a great batch great. I've always wanted to know more about each batch I purchase, like the age of the trees/leaves, where it came from, how it was cured, etc. It's obviously not that simple. It seems like you can usually get some level of information about a batch from vendors, but you never get all of the information. In some cases, there is no way to know all of those details (even for the vendor), and maybe in other cases the information is somewhat proprietary to the vendor's methods (which is understandable).

Anyway, I've been getting a lot of awesome leaf from TFH, Denette, Rhino, Heavenleaf, and (new to me) Lonestar Mitrasource. And there's plenty of other good ones out there from what I hear on this forum. Some of their recent batches IMO are better than the last couple years (even though there were plenty of good ones every year).

These are just my thoughts. I might be a crazy person.

Ive been buying strictly from Fisher tea co. since 2018. The platinum white used to be my jam i have an older stash and its beautiful bright green and burns amazing best i ever had. The past year though it seems the platinum white has changed into more of a red the water turns murky like dirt instead of green and the burn isnt the same. They still have some of the best kratom im not sure what changed in the recipe for the platinum white blend but i miss the good old days. I really enjoy their combooja, copper mine, premium green, and green magenda recently.