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This new batch of pmd is great! I have had pmd from 5 different Indonesian suppliers and all are great but this one in particular just gives you those waves of euphoria and has eased my aches tremendously today. Which good pmds have you guys had US or Indonesian?

Is this PMD slower or faster?

took maybe 30 mins for onset on empty stomach. hit kinda hard id say at peak in an hour and has kept me nice n warm n fuzzy feeling for past 2.5 hours without slowing down. not a lot of energy but like 3 or 4 waves of mood liftn leveled out at a nice warm pain free level so far. its lowered some i guess but not a lot. Its def one of my favorites.

well I know Johnson's imports from highest quality suppliers.. I got a Kg of PMD direct from Vince and it's some of the finest ever. I say that compared to great batch's PMD from BB and RVA, many ppl here can relate to that .. This would hold up as compared to RVA's very best batch of PMD from last year

I'm gonna move Johnson's up on my personal Vendor List for some of this PMD... Look at his leaf, imported from Asia, Widi, Vince, other top suppliers. Right now is peak season!

Oh boy....

BallzDeep9 wrote:This would hold up as compared to RVA's very best batch of PMD from last year

That July batch everybody was talking about?

Are you talking about the PMD he has in stock currently, Ball? Is it faster, slower or in the middle?

Are you talking about the PMD he has in stock currently ?

Yes I'm betting this current fresh PMD at Johnson's ... is probably stronger than current PMD at either RVA or BB.

Johnson's PMD is a different supplier, and a higher quality supplier I think right now ... RVA and BB share the same PMD supplier, although both RVA and BB have in the past, sold two different varieties of "PMD" from two different suppliers. So Johnson's is a third supplier, and I'm guessing a better one?

That's just MHO on PMD. One reason is that RVA is moving huge loads of leaf. Too much quantity = lower quality. Sorry but that's the way it works... Don't buy your PMD from Gaia, and expect to get small batch goodness. RVA just did a restock, and filled 200 orders within 4 hours.. That's moving a ton of product!!

Confusing? Yes. Last year everyone started raving about "PMD" as being way way better than RVA's other strains. Which isn't necessarily true.. look around the Review board here. A month ago everyone's buzzing about a bad batch of RVA PMD. He did have an excellent Gold Bali.

I think maybe we have a little problem ... ALL suppliers now offer "PMD" since that's what sells. That's what the Americans want? Great, we offer it! No more Red Bali and regular Green Maeng Da! Everybody now wants PMD!! Whatever that means... lol

Dammmn, and I just placed an order from Johnson’s too! It’s suppose to be here Thursday!
I’m not sure I ordered some or not!!

Probably not since I gave no clue what PMD stands for!! LOL

Someone help me out?

Edited to say: Figured it out. LOL

I didn’t order any, but bet I will this week!
I did order these: Green Boyan, Green Nanga, White Nugroz, White Banjo and Green Emporer
I can’t wait to try them!




I can’t wait to try them!

BallzDeep9 wrote:
I think maybe we have a little problem ... ALL suppliers now offer "PMD" since that's what sells. That's what the Americans want? Great, we offer it! No more Red Bali and regular Green Maeng Da! Everybody now wants PMD!! Whatever that means... lol

I remember when RVA had the only PMD and it doesn't seem like it was that long ago.

PMD...O yes, the mysterious wonderful PMD, haha. It does get confusing. especially for newbies...I have always equated PMD to stand for PREMIUM Maeng Da...one that does not specify a vein color. I find it to usually be a Green strain, but hey, doesn't HAVE to be...can be a blend of vein colors and still be PMD...and not to be confused with PLANTATION Maeng Da, which I have seen referred to as PMD as well, haha. To avoid confusion most shorten this one to Plant MD. Ahhh, the joys of marketing.

I have my first order coming soon from Daniel as well, with a bit of the current PMD included I believe. In my dealings with him, he is super nice, easy to work with and seems to really care about his customers. I am excited to sample his leaf.

Just placed an order for Johnsons PMD, Nanga, White Nugroz, and Red Asia! Cant wait to try after all the positive things I've heard! And he even threw in an oz sample of the white banjo; which I had selected. Just thought I would mention that because after purchasing many kilos from 6-7 vendors, Johnson’s botanicals is the first to gift me anything. Thanks!

I ordered some PMD last night just hoping it's not too stimulating for me. I already got a half kilo of the Green Boyan and like it very much, it's a good, solid, slow, euphoric green.

I agree not all pmd are equal. i believe the best ive gotten was from vincent and widi. i only carry vincents pmd atm. Medi had a good one but it fell off and he and i had a disagreement and went our separate ways.