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So I've only ordered kratom once and it was from Golden monk, however I've been seeing negative things about aka vendors. But however again I'm quite worried about contaminated product, to avoid going into a long tangent I'll just say I have full blown panic attacks with health stuff. Watching a video about smoking damage to the lungs? I vomit and sweat profusely at my toilet for an hour by realizing the damage I've done.

And this carries for when I use a substance I need to have some feeling of calm that it's safe to not just have an awful experience while under the effects , for example, if I feel ill using kratom and I can't trust it's safety , I'll have a panic attack that it's contaminated rather than having the rational thought of "I took too much take less next time"

I'm using kratom as a substitute for cannabis as I'm on probation. I liked the red maeng da from Golden monk but the white and green were either ineffective or barely. I understand that if stuff gives me these levels of anxiety I should just abstain. But I don't want to try to abstain just to screw up, smoke, and get into trouble.

So can I have some reccomendations from vendors that fit these requirements.

-trusted by the community and has been around more than just recently so there's a long time wise relationship of trust to test their stuff and be safe to take.

-sells filled capsules as I'm lazy quite frankly and toss and wash is a no go , even taking capsules makes me gag I have an absurdly weak stomach.

-potent product, I dont care as much about the price. I'm the type who wants to pay more for better potency wise product. And is okay with paying more to ensure the product is safe contamination wise as long as the product isn't weak like the aka stuff supposedly is.

And I understand that strains and colors are sort of a myth and sort of not at the same time , and that batches change. But if you've got a reccomendation like "this strain is USUALLY strong from this vendor" then I'm all ears. What I'm seeking is kratom that produces a strong body feeling as I'm substituting cannabis.

Sorry for the lengthy as hell post. I just wanted to explain my situation so people understood that although I'm being silly with my health worries , it's because I have a literal mental disorder. And that I mean zero disrespect to any vendors whatsoever I'm just a very specific nutcase xD

Thanks for any suggestions I truly appreciate them!

theres lots of vendors who advertise here on DMH that test their product and can prove it but there's not that many who have capsules... Lucky Herbals fit both those requirements. Liza's Best also has capsules but I'm not sure if hers is tested.

Thank you for the reccomendation! Sorry for wasting users time asking for reccomendations when I could check the reviews and listing sections it's just so overwhelming because there's so many of them, I appreciate the help sincerely!

CatfatherB wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:12 pm theres lots of vendors who advertise here on DMH that test their product and can prove it but there's not that many who have capsules... Lucky Herbals fit both those requirements. Liza's Best also has capsules but I'm not sure if hers is tested.

Hey I was also wondering. Can you tell me how to search for capsule vendors on the listing? I see people saying "search by "c" " but I don't see how to. I'm on mobile but I've tried the desktop version as well.

Troco72 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:02 pm So I've only ordered kratom once and it was from Golden Monk, however I've been seeing negative things about AKA vendors. But however again I'm quite worried about contaminated product, to avoid going into a long tangent I'll just say I have full blown panic attacks with health stuff.

Welcome to MM Troco72 A bunch of things that new people wonder about... So on this Labor Day I'll try to answer your good questions.

The AKA, American Kratom Association, is supported in their battle with FDA to keep Kratom Legal. . However there are divisions within the Kratom community. IF you have discovered kratom, it's good to learn a little history... Kratom wasn't exported outside of Asia, until around 2001 - Herbal supplements before that, were included in DSHEA - Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA) defines dietary supplements as food and not drugs. Kratom IS a natural herbal food supplements... Not a "drug" !!!

The problem was, and IS - Kratom didn't get in to DSHEA, because it wasn't yet discovered in 1994. The AHPA (American Herbal Products Association.) has Kratom along with 200 other herbs, that should be grandfathered in to DSHEA. -- At the same time, profiteers imported Kratom and began selling in head-shops as a "Legal High" drug in capsules. Along with bath salts and others... These profiteers became millionaires - Buying for peanuts, and selling for super high prices.

So it costs $ Money $ for political lobbying. The AKA vendors, go back to the original profiteers, selling Kratom in Retail shops across the USA. For them... It's "All about the Money". Kratom is sold as drugs in capsules, extracts, shots, and potions. As a Consumer, however, many of us see Kratom as a natural herbal supplement, Not a "Legal High". We also know the true cost of kratom. AKA vendors sell Kratom for at least double the price. Some 3X or 4X the price.

when I use a substance I need to have some feeling of calm that it's safe

#1 Do Not eat raw powder Kratom. . Use the Search Bar on MM - Red Bubble. Learn to prepare your kratom in a 3-Step Prep, to sanitize powder with boiled water. In a coffee cup... That's Step #1, you also can add Citric Acid (pure Lemon juice etc.) to help separate alkaloids from the plant matter. That's Step #2. Then - Kratom doesn't really taste good served hot ?? Best served cold - So now, you've got your powder sanitized, with added Lemon or citric acid. Step #3 is Freeze! Put that coffee cup in freezer overnight. Next day thaw. You may see a Red Bubble. Powder is further softened - the 3-Step: Heat +Acid +Freeze, will greatly soften and reduce the powder.

That's the Herbal Supplement method to prep and consume your kratom, as a liquid drink... True, Most people don't do this. Why ?? Because Kratom is sold in gas-stations as a "Drug" in capsules. That's how most people first try kratom. That's how I started, too! Well... pretty much everything about kratom, is mis- understood or, sold as a Marketing angle to "get you" to spend more Money.

Think Batches and Colors - Not "strains and veins". And... there's NO connection between Price and Quality. Never Google to buy Kratom! The fancy AKA vendor websites, selling kratom for double or triple $ are usually selling cheap Bulk Wholesale quality... A Better small batch quality, is sold by smaller vendors who Direct Import from Indonesia. In Fact - Direct Import has become the main thing to look for, when choosing a vendor. Good Luck!!