Microdosing psychedelics

[PistolsAtDawn]

Anyone catch the recent Last Week Tonight episode about psychedelics and the new political push to legalize them for medical use? (here: https://youtu.be/a546lxxJIhE)

To me, it's a crime that we've known for decades how absolutely amazing disassociatives and psychedelics are for people with really hard to treat depression, anxiety, PTSD, etc., yet they remain illegal.

I've recently taken to microdosing mushrooms (~120 milligrams) as a potential way to replace kratom (I'm in need of a long tolerance break from it as it's not really working for mood boost anymore, at least not reliably). Not even the best kratom has had so profound of an effect as psilocybin has had on my mood!

What really excites me is the possibility that with continued microdosing I may even see a permanent change for the better since psilocybin can induce neuroplasticity. I need those new pathways something fierce, let me tell you.

I didn't take a microdose today after doing so for several days in a row, yet I could still tell all day that my depression and anxiety were still less bothersome than normal! I never got that same lasting effect from kratom. Not even close.

This needs to be legal. There are a lot of people like myself that have not found much relief from antidepressant and antianxiety meds. I have (so far) felt zero side effects from microdosing while all the legal drugs fuck me up in some unpleasant way that eventually makes me quit taking them.

I've also recently learned that psilocybin and LSD help block pain from fibromyalgia by combatting an excess amount of a type of protein in the brain of fibro patients. It takes a larger-than-microdose amount to do this. I'll be trying that soon.

Also going forward I will be following Paul Stamets advice for stacking Lion's Mane mycelium and niacin (vitamin B3) along with the microdose of psilocybin mushroom. According to the studies he and his organization have conducted, the combination of the three has a profound effect on neuroplasticity. He says instead of one plus one equals two, it's more like one plus one equals four. Lion's Mane is really a good thing to take anyway.

Paul also recommends four days on and three off for several weeks with a break afterward for the best benefits. There's basically nobody alive who knows mushrooms like Paul Stamets, and he's attempting to keep the pharmaceutical industry from being able to corner the market on this by patenting his method.

Here's an article about this that mentions a lot of what I just talked about: https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/11/health/p ... index.html

And here's Paul Stamets' site for microdosing: https://microdose.me/

Have you microdosed any psychedelics of any sort? What has your experience been? Any sage advice you can share with everyone?

[Jking]

Well I’ve almost no experience microdosing but have tripped off psychedelics over a hundred times. Everything from shroom, dmt, and acid. I would say that they are an immense help but they can also be a life changing experience in a bad way. It’s not that the psychs are the problem they cause no damage to the body but they can change your mindset, and not for the better. It’s important to realize that psychs are meant to improve quality of life but not the key ingredient to living good. You should only take them if your already in a good place, and give yourself time to ground yourself after each trip; or you can feel off if you trip several days in a row which is hard considering the quick tolerance buildup. Also never exceed reasonable doses. I took 36 hits one time, and ended up in the mental hospital for a week but other things were involved like meth.I was in a bad place. Another thing is to never mix most substances with psychs except for ketamine maybe they just go so well together. They have immense value but don’t think don’t they can fix you in anyway that you can’t on your own. I will say this though if you only microsdose I only see positive outcomes because your not really tripping but still get the benefit like increased serotonin levels, and other things without affecting mindset. Also be smart about when, and where if you want to really trip. It’s important to do it in a safe place. Finally keep in mind there is always usually a uncomfortable feeling as the psychs kick in if you take enough that usually last an hour sometimes. It’s normal, and will pass. If you have a bad trip it’s gonna be a horrid experience because your sense of time is off so if will feel like a nightmare that won’t end but it will so breathe thinking postivte thoughts always help. It also helps to either don’t expect anything, or have a specific purpose for tripping. Not trying to scare anyone this won’t happen if you are in a good place, and don’t trip somewhere you know will make you uncomfortable. You also won’t trip microdosing this advice is mostly for people taking 100ug, or more. Oh don’t take these if your mentally unstable like me they can make mental issues worse, or better that the point it’s a coin toss which direction it will take. Though I can say depending on what medication you take you definitely shouldn’t take. Examples include all antidepressants, lithium, and many others so check before taking. You can get permanent brain damage, or death if you combine lsd with certain drugs so don’t just think it will be fine. These are powerful substances that need to be treated with caution, and respect. I think that’s everything but will probably add more if I forgot something.

[PistolsAtDawn]

Yes, definitely substances that aren't to taken lightly. I appreciate you sharing that. I never assume medicines are okay together, ever. I ALWAYS look for interactions.

Despite my warnings, a friend of mine wound up with serotonin syndrome recently. I understand that he is struggling with some personal stuff, but he goes fast and hard with his medications. One week he's stacking them together in big doses. The next he's dropped ALL of them all at once. Then he's on new ones. Then he adds all of them together again.

I keep telling him he's really jacking up his brain chemistry by doing that and that he should taper off things slowly and look up interactions online before combining, but he somehow has doctors who just prescribe him tons of things for his ADHD (and stuff for the side effects too). Either they give him poor guidance or he doesn't heed any of it.

Microdosing has been nothing but positive for me so far. I get antidepressant and antianxiety effects without feeling like those kinds of medicines with all their shitty side effects. That said, I didn't start taking any before I stopped taking my prescription meds. I have taken my normal sized doses of kratom with the microdose, but that's because I don't get enough pain relief from microdosing to be able to go to work (I work a somewhat physical job now).

[BallzDeep9]

National Geographic "Trafficked with Mariana Zeller" Episode on LSD - also has a Shroom Lab growing huge quantity of Psilocybe's... worth a watch.

On Streaming NG channel or over the web -- https://www.nationalgeographic.com/tv/s ... ka32048933

[AliJustali]

I've recently taken to microdosing mushrooms (~120 milligrams) as a potential way to replace kratom (I'm in need of a long tolerance break from it as it's not really working for mood boost anymore, at least not reliably). Not even the best kratom has had so profound of an effect as psilocybin has had on my mood!

It's great that you've found something that helps your mood. I'm wondering if you've taken larger doses (enough for a full trip) and noticed lasting mood benefits from that? I did, but they eventually faded. I'm thinking about giving micordosing a try because it seems like continued dosing might allow the mood effects to continue, plus you take a small enough dose to not impair your functioning so you don't have to basically set aside most of a day to devote to it.

[PistolsAtDawn]

I've recently taken to microdosing mushrooms (~120 milligrams) as a potential way to replace kratom (I'm in need of a long tolerance break from it as it's not really working for mood boost anymore, at least not reliably). Not even the best kratom has had so profound of an effect as psilocybin has had on my mood!

It's great that you've found something that helps your mood. I'm wondering if you've taken larger doses (enough for a full trip) and noticed lasting mood benefits from that? I did, but they eventually faded. I'm thinking about giving micordosing a try because it seems like continued dosing might allow the mood effects to continue, plus you take a small enough dose to not impair your functioning so you don't have to basically set aside most of a day to devote to it.

I have not gone on a trip so far. I've only done the microdosing, and I believe it's the best way to go for my situation. I may try a macrodose in the future to see if there's any pain relief to be had from that so I can take a long kratom break, but I haven't had the opportunity to do so just yet.

[PistolsAtDawn]

So as little as half a gram makes me really feel it in my system and is good for pain relief. Unfortunately unlike slightly larger doses of kratom, I don't feel as sober in that state, so it's not a perfect substitute. It does work however, especially if I don't need to leave the house.

I will soon be trying the Stamets Stack to see if I can tell a difference from less psilocybin mushrooms when combined with the other ingredients.

[mivanqua]

I've been on the fence about this for a while but I think, thanks to this thread, I'm going to try microdosing One part of it was I didn't know how much to take as I understood it you're not supposed to feel it all as far as the trip, so I'm going to use your weight and see if that does anything: thank you guys this has been a very interesting thread.

[PistolsAtDawn]

I've been on the fence about this for a while but I think, thanks to this thread, I'm going to try microdosing One part of it was I didn't know how much to take as I understood it you're not supposed to feel it all as far as the trip, so I'm going to use your weight and see if that does anything: thank you guys this has been a very interesting thread.

I hope you have as positive of an experience as I have had!

[Babel-17]

Interesting topic, I'll guess that the microdose might simulate the beginning of the onset of a normal dose of a psychedelic.

Dune analogy: In Dune it was mentioned that the air of Arrakis was redolent with melange that had been uncovered during spice mining, and I guess also from natural blow outs, and it was used freely in a lot of the food people ate and drank. For someone like Paul, it was enough to put him on the verge of feeling the onset of premonitions of the future, and even for the Fremen it made them what Herbert described, IIRC, as a bit "fey"/sensitive to a larger universe.

It was the large doses of spice that enabled Guild Navigators, and Paul, to "trip balls" (literally in the case of the Third Stage Navigators?), lol.

https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Guild_Navi ... the_Scenes

Edit: Funny pic I just saw: https://i.imgur.com/gi13g.jpeg

[IndelibleDotInk]

lol, love dune. second part coming out in nov.

I don't know about shrooms microdosing, but i've taken them twice at tripping levels and I think the associated spirits render me unable to talk in a benign way.

If I were to try microdosing, it would be ketamine in a lab/hospital setting.

[mivanqua]

I've be n dosing .4 a day of Yeti mushrooms ground up in a coffee grinder to make it a basically even mix of all of the parts. It's really been working I think, everyone keeps telling me I've been laughing more, so that's something.

They can't possibly harm me, so what's to lose?

[Greyfeather]

I've never tried that stuff and I'm afraid of it. I can barely handle cannabis gummies. To the original OP - "dissociatives?" I eperienced the worst trauma in my life 9 months ago and was in a nightmarish depersonalized state for 6 months. Is that something we want to experience? I can't see how that would be therapeutic. I didn't know who I was or what I was doing.

[mivanqua]

It's made my whole life tolerable. I can see the forest now, not stuck on one tree, and the forest is always beautiful and peaceful. I know how you feel, grey. I was scared to start, I had the mushrooms for a little while and then one day I just started. Kratom can definitely bring it down to a manageable level. I'm at work most times I take them, and with two grams of kratom, it just feels nice.

And disassociating can be fun, but I certainly wouldn't want to live there.

I've got more coming later today, but I don't have any for work today and that is a bummer extraordinaire. I took them all at one time yesterday.

[brian b]

Anyone catch the recent Last Week Tonight episode about psychedelics and the new political push to legalize them for medical use? (here: https://youtu.be/a546lxxJIhE)

To me, it's a crime that we've known for decades how absolutely amazing disassociatives and psychedelics are for people with really hard to treat depression, anxiety, PTSD, etc., yet they remain illegal.

I've recently taken to microdosing mushrooms (~120 milligrams) as a potential way to replace kratom (I'm in need of a long tolerance break from it as it's not really working for mood boost anymore, at least not reliably). Not even the best kratom has had so profound of an effect as psilocybin has had on my mood!

What really excites me is the possibility that with continued microdosing I may even see a permanent change for the better since psilocybin can induce neuroplasticity. I need those new pathways something fierce, let me tell you.

I didn't take a microdose today after doing so for several days in a row, yet I could still tell all day that my depression and anxiety were still less bothersome than normal! I never got that same lasting effect from kratom. Not even close.

This needs to be legal. There are a lot of people like myself that have not found much relief from antidepressant and antianxiety meds. I have (so far) felt zero side effects from microdosing while all the legal drugs fuck me up in some unpleasant way that eventually makes me quit taking them.

I've also recently learned that psilocybin and LSD help block pain from fibromyalgia by combatting an excess amount of a type of protein in the brain of fibro patients. It takes a larger-than-microdose amount to do this. I'll be trying that soon.

Also going forward I will be following Paul Stamets advice for stacking Lion's Mane mycelium and niacin (vitamin B3) along with the microdose of psilocybin mushroom. According to the studies he and his organization have conducted, the combination of the three has a profound effect on neuroplasticity. He says instead of one plus one equals two, it's more like one plus one equals four. Lion's Mane is really a good thing to take anyway.

Paul also recommends four days on and three off for several weeks with a break afterward for the best benefits. There's basically nobody alive who knows mushrooms like Paul Stamets, and he's attempting to keep the pharmaceutical industry from being able to corner the market on this by patenting his method.

Here's an article about this that mentions a lot of what I just talked about: https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/11/health/p ... index.html

And here's Paul Stamets' site for microdosing: https://microdose.me/

Have you microdosed any psychedelics of any sort? What has your experience been? Any sage advice you can share with everyone?

Awesome thread! Glad i found this, as i too have a huge kratom tolerance, which i take mainly for mood boost. I already have a pretty fast metabolism, so energy is there, but i really kook for euphoric greens. But my wife and i havent missed a dose in a few years. Every day i dose 3.5 grams, twice a day. Being a chef, working in hot, stressful kitchens furthers my need for mood boost. I do have a lot of experience w psychedelics, Lsd, mushrooms, and also mdma. Those days are long gone, but my interest in mushrooms is renewed! If i could find a reliable source, i'd be on it in a heartbeat. I wanna try your suggested microdose of mushrooms so i can rest my kratom dose a while, at least a week. I'm also somebody who has to heavily rotate strains and vendors, only taking a particular strain once a week. I also take lion's mane and recently bought the 'Master Blend' w ashwaghanda from OM. It definitely helps my focus and memory at work. I'm an organic cannabis grower as well, so my memory could always use a boost! Any suggestions for mushroom variety or source would be greatly appreciated. Penis Envy is one very potent strain that comes to mind, but thats it. I might have to start cultivating my own! A gifted lion's mane grow bag worked out ok, but very amateur, and not a great yield, but fun to watch. Thanks again for bringing up the subject.✌

[StarfishArtifice]

I'm all for it and will probably do it soon, too. With MACRO dosing, conventional wisdom is you can't do it repeatedly for days, because of tolerance. So it makes sense to take breaks for microdosing as well. Cool to hear even on those days off you felt the lasting effects!