What would you do to ensure the strongest dose?

[demafrost]

Random question but I have a weekend alone without wife and kids. Normally I like kratom working for me in the background and while I like the mood lift and all of that, it's not essential for kratom to work for me. However having the place to myself I want to enjoy a nice strong euphoric experience.

As we all know, kratom is often fickle. Sometimes you can have the exact same dose with the exact same strand and have 2 wildly different effects. Also the way kratom is, taking a larger dose sometimes makes the effects worse and not better.

So looking for tips to ensure the best experience possible. How much to take (relative to my normal dose), when to take, potentiators, one big dose or smaller dose with a boost after a couple hours etc. To be clear I'm not trying to get "high" or have an opiate like experience or anything, I just want to have a nice enjoyable mood elevated evening hanging out by myself.

Here is how I normally dose:

-Twice a week (take 2 days off, take kratom 1 day then take 3 more days off before my next dose)
-5-6g per day often times broken down into 2 doses.... 3-4g and then 2 hours later 2-3g more
-Try to take on empty stomach and not eat for an hour afterwards
-Typically take at 4-5pm
-Reds have almost always provided the most mood lift of any veins. Whites and greens taken alone do nothing for me, but sometimes mixing reds with the others can make a stronger overall experience. I have multiple strains of all 3 veins available to me.
-Normally never potentiate with anything

Thanks for all the tips!

[Devil_Dog21]

a couple things that help me, magnesium and take on a relatively empty stomach.

[beathappening]

Main things for me:
-have a totally empty stomach (four hours after meal)
-be hydrated
-be adequately rested, being tired can ruin everything

[tfribourg69]

empty 2 curcumin caps in a glass with some fresh ground black pepper & ginger. Chug

Take kratom with some ACV or lemon juice 10-15 mins after

32 oz water afterwards

My post gym dose is always a little better too

[herbalhippie]

empty 2 curcumin caps in a glass with some fresh ground black pepper & ginger. Chug

Or get some curcumin with piperine (active ingredient in black pepper)

[tfribourg69]

empty 2 curcumin caps in a glass with some fresh ground black pepper & ginger. Chug

Or get some curcumin with piperine (active ingredient in black pepper)

lol those are what i have. I empty the caps because they dont always dissolve for me, and more pepper can't hurt

[herbalhippie]

empty 2 curcumin caps in a glass with some fresh ground black pepper & ginger. Chug

Or get some curcumin with piperine (active ingredient in black pepper)

lol those are what i have. I empty the caps because they dont always dissolve for me, and more pepper can't hurt

Never enough pepper. It's a decent anti-inflammatory too.

[demafrost]

Thanks for all the tips guys! I will try the curcumin with pepper and ginger and let you know how it goes.

[herbalhippie]

Thanks for all the tips guys! I will try the curcumin with pepper and ginger and let you know how it goes.

And magnesium citrate!

[demafrost]

Thanks for all the tips guys! I will try the curcumin with pepper and ginger and let you know how it goes.

And magnesium citrate!

ahh good call, that too. Looks like its sold as a laxative? Do I take it just before dosing?

[Transformato]

Looks like the team came through again.

I'll just add- yea, the blend but to improve odds of success- try a tiered approach.
One "main act", an opener and a special guest performance in that order:
(Whaat? lol) Most to least (partly based on your preference) - Red, Green, White

Odds & ends- if you have any Yellow Hulu- a touch of that usually = bright & happy.
-other yellows? Maybe not for for this "event".

[herbalhippie]

Thanks for all the tips guys! I will try the curcumin with pepper and ginger and let you know how it goes.

And magnesium citrate!

ahh good call, that too. Looks like its sold as a laxative? Do I take it just before dosing?

Get the magnesium citrate softgels. You don't want the bottle of liquid or you won't be off the toilet all day.

Nature Made makes a good product and you can find it in just about any grocery store or drugstore in the supplement section. I take one or two a day so I've always got it in my system.

[Devil_Dog21]

@herbalhippie, you mention Magnesium Citrate, I use Magnesium Glycinate and it's been quick effective, do you happen to know the difference? I'm due to buy some more and thought about switching to Citrate but don't really know the difference.

[herbalhippie]

@herbalhippie, you mention Magnesium Citrate, I use Magnesium Glycinate and it's been quick effective, do you happen to know the difference? I'm due to buy some more and thought about switching to Citrate but don't really know the difference.

I don't really know the difference, but I've noticed in posts that some people seem to strongly prefer one or the other. I think it has something to do with absorption. The citrate works just fine for me so I haven't gone seeking out the glycinate.

[Devil_Dog21]

okay thanks...since the glycinate works good I'll stick to that.

[livi2fly]

If you make a drink with it then putting a little bit of lemon juice on the kratom will make it more potent.