brave777 wrote:acejestyr15 wrote:Kucumber wrote:For those asking, the 30 year wild red TFH went like this for me.
Dose.
15 min- Waiting.
30 min- Waiting.
45 min- Waiting.
60 min- Feeling something.
360 min- Waking up the next day.
My personal review and opinion, but 9-10/10 for sleep

. I did have a thought that I didn’t have a kratom hangover or anything. I was actually quite “awake” once I got up
Was this an average size red dose for you?? Larger? Smaller???
that's what i want to know. I think everyone should start including if they stick with same usual dose or less or higher. that will give us a higher understanding why it made them feel certain way. Even better how long a break was before last dose? Like was the previous dose red as well as new dose? if yes, then most likely you will feel next relaxing dose more sleepy or less effects. If previous one was all greens and then red dose, then not only you will feel it better but also feel the relaxation. I do think if it is red dose then another red dose from another vendor, maybe 50% same alkaloids play a role. Compare to green, what and red rotation. I think re leaf talked about striping down the whole tree, different parts of the tree and dry them separately, then that same whole tree dried leafs are combined so you could have a full experience of alkaloids. I would really want to try, all top of the tree leaf only and picked when was perfect time and no rain. another one all left over leafs from tree only. Or a middle half of the tree half only. I feel like it would contain different alkaloids and rotation ideal to do. What if vendors figure depending on a tree leaf location, and how old or young the tree has to be, it makes sleepy effect? I am sure gumpy might have some insight on 30 year wile red leaf? At the same did the guy eat any sweet mixed with kratom? I had plenty of times when i eat sweets and red kratom dose, it knocked me out pretty fast. So to much sugar? There is so many things that could be at play, you can only guess.. I think if everyone had a journal of what they eat, dose time between dose, was next dose regular dose or less or more?, but this is more into like scientific stuff, not everyone has time for that, we just want to have a good experience. lol any way this was just some random thoughts of mine
Slightly smaller, apx 3.5g.
Last dose (different kratom-green) about 4-5 hours prior.
No sweets, other than a little OJ, only dinner 2 hours prior to the dose.
Walked my dog- about half a mile, temps in the 40s (F).
Had a snus- General (mint).
Brushed my teeth- Colgate.
My bed faces south, the window east.
About 1 liter of water between dinner and bed.
I’m a man of habit and most nights go almost the exact same.