Who currently uses potentiators and which one(s)?

[IndelibleDotInk]

I'm wondering which potentiators to try.

Magnesium, cat's claw, and turmeric/pepper seem to the most available, and I am not seeking to add a ton of pills to my daily regimen, and do not want to use kratom every day.

Mahalo guys.

[Celestial-Oceanic]

I use magnesium and a supplement that contains ACV, Cayenne Pepper, maple sugar, and tumeric, all in one pill.

[nerevarine]

Magnesium & Apple Cider Vinegar are my go to potentiators. The timing of them seems to impact their effectiveness, still need to work out the specifics.

[beathappening]

I've tried many, many potentiators, and none of them seem to affect the kratom much at all above placebo. The only thing I found that truly makes kratom stronger is just to take a little extra, and of course on a completely empty stomach.

[BallzDeep9]

Notice that nobody ever talks about a "potentiator" for weed, coke, heroin.. or ANY other substance. Only kratom, is so weak and mellow by itself that it needs potentiating lol .. everybody's running around looking for stronger kratom...

There are 2 types: 1- True potentiators that have a proven, pharmaceutical effect ... and 2- Other potentiators aka "placebo" that have no proven effect but.. people guess they might help ?? So, for example, blocking Liver Enzymes - Cimetidine (Tagamet) or pure Grapefruit Juice, is a proven "true potentiator" for kratom, opiates, and others... However your other medication/ medical reasons, could rule this OUT.

Anything that preps the raw powder, by extracting alkaloids, would be considered a true potentiator - Personally I use the Red Bubble freezing method of extraction. Again, these are proven science: cell Lysis, and expansion of surface area/ bioavailability is another... Black pepper extract, aka Bioperine, has been studied and also proven to help with bioavailability. Another might be a "Lipid Carrier" which would force kratom past your stomach acids, into your intestines for better absorption.. Again, there's science behind that. However most people don't wanna drink a cup of Coconut Oil - so its not very practical

ALL of these can be studied via the Reddit Search Bar/ Knowledge Base of kratom on Reddit!

[Re-leaf LLC]

Has anyone tried just black pepper extract with no curcumin and just kratom?

[CatfatherB]

I remember reading either here or r/kratom about black pepper extract maybe being a better option than circumin but if used too much daily could be toxic or dangerous.

Myself, I've been taking ACV pills about 20 minutes after dosing, but not daily...I've been using magnesium glycinate cats claw and circumin after my last dose of the day.

I've also sometimes use small doses of agmatine, I noticed if I keep dosages small there's no loss of mood lift but it's best not taken every day.

[K-Dawg]

Has anyone tried just black pepper extract with no curcumin and just kratom?

I have taken only Bioperine. It may be placebo, but I feel like it increases bioavailability.

I usually take Curcurmin, 1g Black Seed Oil, a d 10mg Bioperine 20 minutes before 2nd burn of the day. I mainly use kratom for pain management so these potentiators also help me manage my pain. Double bonus

[Greyfeather]

I purchased an expensive bottle of Black Seed Oil; thought I would give that a try. But, seriously, that stuff is just the worst tasting thing I have ever tried - and I'm not easily thwarted by nasty-tasting stuff. Even hours later the taste would 'repeat' on me every time I burped.

I hate swallowing pill though. Maybe I can find a way to 'hide' the flavor under something else, lol.

[Leaflover43]

I always take my doses with lemon juice and take magnesium before bed. I recently started taking full spectrum Boswellia (frankinsense) which is supposed to be good for inflammation and pain. I can't tell if it potentiates as I feel an increase in euphoria but it also could be that when I'm in less pain I'm happier?

[Slippy]

I take my Kratom with grapefruit juice and I can say that it definitely makes the dose hit a bit harder. If I'm out of grapefruit I will take it with lemonade, which does potentiate but at a slightly less level from the grapefruit juice. Of course everyone is different.

[BallzDeep9]

Today there is a new Reddit thread, regarding dopamine precursors LINK ... I did recently get NOW brand, Mucuna with l-Dopa ... not sure if its a "potentiator" but it DOES have good effects. For guys.. you can feel it!! A boner, that is

The Reddit link they discuss B12 supplements, and this makes sense - B12 is known to boost energy. May boost euphoria too.. Make sure you get the higher quality Methylcobalamin type.. Jarrow's B-Right is a great B12 Complex. I've got some & gonna try this 30 min. before my kratom dose!

[brave777]

I been using Maca root powder from health rangers for a long time, it also gives a boner and often (Its a creeper). Never heard Mucuna with I-Dopa, i know moodandmind.com has many products, i tried some, and they all seem to work very well, Its just i dont trust the source that moodandmind get from. healthrangers.com actually tests all his batches, he got his own lab and nothing everything makes to the menu so i dont need to worry about any heavy metals or something else sneaking into the products, their maca root is top notch! I am going to look into mucuna and i-dopa, looks interesting. I do every the other dose 1 gram of maca root, i can tell it does play a big roll in helping me be more happy. I did notice secretly women try to be around me more often, if i don't start talking, they make big smiles i as wink back and we go our own ways. I did with out maca before but when i started taking it i noticed i feel way way better. it does attract women thats for sure, but i also know it is very healthy and good for women as well. I know kratom can mess with hormones but one thing for sure, maca root powder will balance it.

[IndelibleDotInk]

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[brave777]

healthrangers.com been out of maca for a very long time, so i went with this https://www.joshboughton.com/product-pa ... r-men-300g , any one try them? they also have black and red maca. they even show pics and source which i like that a lot. its from peru which is not china, anything from Peru i always had everything effective, like ginger from Peru from wholefoods. Anyone have any other favorite site for Maca?

[BlatePapes]

Organic WHITE grapefruit juice (6-8oz)
w/ 1/2 tablespoon Apple Cider Vinegar
+1-2 drops iodine liquid suspension.
Turmeric (5g)
Black pepper (1g)
L-tyrosine (.5g)
Agmatine Sulfate (.5g)
Epsom salt (magnesium sulfate) (.5g)
Himalayan Pink Salt (.1g)
Small dollop of coconut oil (or 2-4 fish oil gels)

Put all of this powder in one Blate Pape, add the coconut oil, pick it up, fold a pouch, dip it in the White grapefruit juice with ACV/iodine and then swallow it by drinking it down with the rest of the glass.

Do this 5-20 minutes before taking Your Kratom in another pape.

I guarantee you haven’t tried a better formula.

If you’re wondering on the pink salt/iodine, trust me. Most people are actually deficient in both. In fact, salt and iodine are so important, you can’t think/perform at peak levels without them. Extended periods of deficiency cause terrible body harm.
I also always made sure to include .2g of 5htp powder in mine.

If you really want to see what I mean, I suggest sitting outside and meditating just before you start to feel the Kratom (15-20 minutes after ingesting) If you don’t meditate, this can seem daunting. So try just five minutes. Ten or more if you are feeling up to it.

Guarantee you’ll be hooked.
As I’m sure many of you know, the best feeling is the uppity but comforting effects gained from small-medium Kratom doses. This blows that sweet spot up so you really feel it. Always stay low, and amplify this way. You’ll save herb and feel better.

I always found that more, wasn’t better. It was taking just the right amount.. as hard as is at first.

[mitragy9]

Organic WHITE grapefruit juice (6-8oz)
w/ 1/2 tablespoon Apple Cider Vinegar
+1-2 drops iodine liquid suspension.
Turmeric (5g)
Black pepper (1g)
L-tyrosine (.5g)
Agmatine Sulfate (.5g)
Epsom salt (magnesium sulfate) (.5g)
Himalayan Pink Salt (.1g)
Small dollop of coconut oil (or 2-4 fish oil gels)

Put all of this powder in one Blate Pape, add the coconut oil, pick it up, fold a pouch, dip it in the White grapefruit juice with ACV/iodine and then swallow it by drinking it down with the rest of the glass.

Do this 5-20 minutes before taking Your Kratom in another pape.

I guarantee you haven’t tried a better formula.

If you’re wondering on the pink salt/iodine, trust me. Most people are actually deficient in both. In fact, salt and iodine are so important, you can’t think/perform at peak levels without them. Extended periods of deficiency cause terrible body harm.
I also always made sure to include .2g of 5htp powder in mine.

If you really want to see what I mean, I suggest sitting outside and meditating just before you start to feel the Kratom (15-20 minutes after ingesting) If you don’t meditate, this can seem daunting. So try just five minutes. Ten or more if you are feeling up to it.

Guarantee you’ll be hooked.
As I’m sure many of you know, the best feeling is the uppity but comforting effects gained from small-medium Kratom doses. This blows that sweet spot up so you really feel it. Always stay low, and amplify this way. You’ll save herb and feel better.

I always found that more, wasn’t better. It was taking just the right amount.. as hard as is at first.

Interesting concoction, I'll have to try the pink salt with kratom. Grapefruit juice however doesn't do anything except hurt kratom's potency. White grapefruit juice works to potentiate opiates like codeine/morphine/thebaine. It actually inhibits the liver enzyme needed to convert mitragynine to 7-hydroxymitragynine(way more potent) I would just switch that out for citric acid/lemon juice/Orange juice.

[the_spookiest]

thats a heck of a cocktail to get down your gullet. these threads are always interesting in many ways

[GrannyJ62]

I use magnesium complex every day and Apple cider vinegar every day I use tumeric with capri,and black pepper not as often as I should because it can upset my stomach but it sure does help my inflammation, I use shilajet for energy and its like oil to my bones,and moringa because I have hypothyroidism which has caused hair loss moringa has stopped that.I also use golden milk at night sometimes for relaxation I have a dry mix I get from Amazon just add almond milk.I don't use anything specific to potentiate but I use it all to keep healthy.

[Love_Redz]

Exercise works for me , and if for some reason I can’t find the time to go to the gym staying busy and being active help me I tried Potentiating years back I never really got any where alkalining your body helps aswell but I don’t do that often anymore either good luck with it if your going that route

[mitragy9]

Exercise works for me , and if for some reason I can’t find the time to go to the gym staying busy and being active help me I tried Potentiating years back I never really got any where alkalining your body helps aswell but I don’t do that often anymore either good luck with it if your going that route

Sitting in a sauna(15-30mins) is even better of a potentiator than exercise for me plus results in a wicked endorphin rush.