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How to test Kratom to see if it has flour in it?

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Hello all,

I have been using Kratom for pain for a while now and the company I use MIGHT be using flour in it, to rip customers off. Its bought in Grams. You can buy 25g's, 50g's, 250g's etc. etc.

Another person, on their reviews said that they have been getting flour in their packaging, to increase the weight. Ie. 50% kratom and 50% flour (to con their customers).

Is there a way to test this powdered kratom to see if it has flour in it?

Thanks!

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Try making a cake with it

Who's the vendor? Other people here may have bought from them and have an opinion.
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beathappening wrote:Try making a cake with it

Who's the vendor? Other people here may have bought from them and have an opinion.

:lol:
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beathappening wrote:Try making a cake with it
:lol: :lol: too funny
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beathappening wrote:Try making a cake with it

Who's the vendor? Other people here may have bought from them and have an opinion.
They are Gaia Ethnobotanical or mitragaia.com
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Oh no, not gaia. They've been widely written off, between the salmonella episode and their quality dropping. I've only seen negative things about them in the past year, mainly about their kratom being garbage. Maybe it does have flour in it, and that's why it's bunk. Do yourself a favor and check out some of the vendors here in vendor and strain reviews, you can do a lot better

Edit: just search gaia in the search bar here, there are some recent reviews about them
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beathappening wrote:Oh no, not gaia. They've been widely written off, between the salmonella episode and their quality dropping. I've only seen negative things about them in the past year, mainly about their kratom being garbage. Maybe it does have flour in it, and that's why it's bunk. Do yourself a favor and check out some of the vendors here in vendor and strain reviews, you can do a lot better
Thanks for the reply! Im sure thats why ive had to increase my dosage over the past few times. Ive maintained my normal dosage without any problems and over the past few times ive used them, ive had to increase my dosage. Thanks for the heads up! Ill definitely check out the vendors here!
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Chris42393 wrote:
beathappening wrote:Try making a cake with it

Who's the vendor? Other people here may have bought from them and have an opinion.
They are Gaia Ethnobotanical or mitragaia.com
Oof :lol:
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You’ve gotta be kidding me
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Kratom Cake!! There you go :D

:?

Stop buying from those CLOWNS!
There are SOO many hard working, loyal and kind, great people who are vendors in this community that you should reach out to!
Look around and you will SEE
Highly recommend ppl like, Rhino Remedies, Soul, LOE, HL aka HeavenLeaf, and or, Goldfumed herbals!

;) Best of luck to you!
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People still use Gaia?
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Payshince wrote:Kratom Cake!! There you go :D

:?

Stop buying from those CLOWNS!
There are SOO many hard working, loyal and kind, great people who are vendors in this community that you should reach out to!
Look around and you will SEE
Highly recommend ppl like, Rhino Remedies, Soul, LOE, HL aka HeavenLeaf, and or, Goldfumed herbals!

;) Best of luck to you!
Thank you, Payshine! Ill check them out.

And yes I do. Or at least did. I never knew they were so unliked. I only seen 2 reviews on google, so I really didnt think it was a big deal (since it was only 2), but now im definitely going to be using someone else.
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Did you find the vendor list, Chris?

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3538

There are some excellent vendors that are only on the MeWe platform for now. Rhino Remedies, ummm Mitra Man unless he got a website. Spirit Science.

I am glad you found us! Welcome to the forum!
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herbalhippie wrote:Did you find the vendor list, Chris?

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3538

There are some excellent vendors that are only on the MeWe platform for now. Rhino Remedies, ummm Mitra Man unless he got a website. Spirit Science.

I am glad you found us! Welcome to the forum!
Yes I did, thank you very much!

And I am too! I appreciate all the help, everyone!

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Gaia probably does sell flour. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

But just as likely just low quality leaf. I can't see them doing much in the way of quality control.

They've made themselves the butt of a lot of jokes in the community by having bad business practices.
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Has anyone actually mixed kratom with flour to see how it would turn out? Seems like it would drastically change the color. And when mixed with liquid, you'd easily be able to tell.

I'd do an experiment but I don't really have enough to potentially waste.
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beathappening wrote:Has anyone actually mixed kratom with flour to see how it would turn out? Seems like it would drastically change the color. And when mixed with liquid, you'd easily be able to tell.

I'd do an experiment but I don't really have enough to potentially waste.
I'm bored, I'll do it right now! And post pix!

I don't think even the most desperate vendor would mix 1:1

How about 1:2? Sound good?
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Sure! Start small, and add more. See how it mixes with water and/or juice :P
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beathappening wrote:Sure! Start small, and add more. See how it mixes with water and/or juice :P
I went with 1:2 right off. Waiting for Imgur to upload
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20 grams unnamed red strain and 10 grams all purpose flour

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Looks like kratom to me!


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Spoonful in very warm water, my preferred way to take it


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Looks good and taste exactly like kratom

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Spoonful in cold orange mango juice

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Can see small particles of flour

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AppalachianHerbs wrote:Gaia probably does sell flour. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.

But just as likely just low quality leaf. I can't see them doing much in the way of quality control.

They've made themselves the butt of a lot of jokes in the community by having bad business practices.
Jeez I never knew they were so unliked/bad lol Glad I found you guys, to get a good source!
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herbalhippie wrote:
beathappening wrote:Sure! Start small, and add more. See how it mixes with water and/or juice :P
I went with 1:2 right off. Waiting for Imgur to upload

Thanks for doing the test, herbalhippie! Very interesting! Crazy how the flour started showing! Ill have to try this myself tomorrow, for sure!

Thanks again,

Chris
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Hahaaa! Well done, herbalhippie!

Julia Child would be impressed :lol:

Can I lick the spoon?
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Greyfeather wrote:Hahaaa! Well done, herbalhippie!

Julia Child would be impressed :lol:

Can I lick the spoon?
:lol:
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Chris42393 wrote:
herbalhippie wrote:
beathappening wrote:Sure! Start small, and add more. See how it mixes with water and/or juice :P
I went with 1:2 right off. Waiting for Imgur to upload

Thanks for doing the test, herbalhippie! Very interesting! Crazy how the flour started showing! Ill have to try this myself tomorrow, for sure!

Thanks again,

Chris

Please let us know how that test goes! Im very curious if this is something new that we should all be on the watch for.... ugh :x Thanks Hippie for the ingenuity!
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beathappening wrote:Try making a cake with it

Who's the vendor? Other people here may have bought from them and have an opinion.
*kake
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lets not forget that its by hand mix, what if its machine grinder, will flour show? any vendors can test this? with pics?
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Just got off shift today! Ended up getting called into work the other night and have been gone for like 36 hours lol (work Fire/Rescue). Tomorrow ill be going to the store and after that ill do the test! Needed to sleep today, I was exhausted LOL.

Thanks again!
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