First Burns Of Day

[Hopbronson]

Alot of people have mentioned they get the best burn on a mornin after it’s been generally the longest since last dose and empty stomach.I have quite the opposite reaction and I rarely have a good burn in the morning which has generally been 8-12 hours since last burn (unless Occasionally if it’s a brand new fire batch I will get something which is rare.)
I have had small success waiting a few hours after I woke up to dose but that eventually stopped.
my next longest time since dose which is after work generally on a empty stomach 8 hours later again I never have a good burn, anecdotally I have a better burn in next redose 3-4 hours later. Iam starting to wonder if for me in particular kratom has to have a layered effect where I build up a base line of mitra&friends to start having pronounced effects. Also Full disclosure I do have a higher Intake at 3-4 doses a day at 7G.( I know people will mentions I need a T break BUT)does anyone else experience this. do you have a similar experience and how long do you wait once you wake up, do you eat first, how are your burns first thing & or after work. what works for you?

[neuropathy1]

I have been in the same position as you-in short my morning burns have not been as effective even though i have at least 12 hours from the previous days dose.

The only thing I can attribute it to besides just saying it's "tolerance," is my routine has changed. I haven't been able to workout at the gym, which i would average 5 times/week. I used to morning dose on empty stomach and go to the gym an hour or 2 later, and feel great and wouldnt have to dose for my pain issues til after lunch.

Just my observation.

[YngwieShreds]

I find the same to be true and I can only surmise it must be tolerance related. This morning I took a larger dose after about 14 hours since my last one and got nothing. But the afternoon I get a little something. I'm a super high doser though, ran at about 50g per day for a couple years (I thought kratom was getting weak since it happened to me abruptly). I've started tapering by about 10g per day and started to get some of the effects back, but then this morning I thought maybe I'd get a REALLY good burn if I went back up to my old dosage.... Nothing!

I've got pea and cats claw coming in the mail today, going back on the taper....

[YngwieShreds]

I find the same to be true and I can only surmise it must be tolerance related. This morning I took a larger dose after about 14 hours since my last one and got nothing. But the afternoon I get a little something. I'm a super high doser though, ran at about 50g per day for a couple years (I thought kratom was getting weak since it happened to me abruptly). I've started tapering by about 10g per day and started to get some of the effects back, but then this morning I thought maybe I'd get a REALLY good burn if I went back up to my old dosage.... Nothing!

I've got pea and cats claw coming in the mail today, going back on the taper....

The reason I say it's tolerance not these other factors (exercise, diet, etc.) Is because in the past my burns would hit regardless of exercise, diet (minus full stomach), or what color clothes I was wearing or whether or not Mercury was in retrograde...all that stuff seems to be just wild speculation to me. It's gotta be that my body has adjusted to it and I have a huge tolerance issue.

[onespeedstop]

Just anecdotal, but I always have a cup of coffee and maybe a granola bar or a couple of crackers when I first get up, then some kratom an hour or two later and it seems to work well. I've also read conflicting info. about having a meal an hour before kratom, and the logic seems to fit what works for me - eat just a bit to get your stomach going, and then a bit later take your kratom once the body is "warmed up" and ready to process it ha-ha. The first dose of the day is always the strongest for me personally.

[TechNRK]

As crazy as this may sound. Make sure you have a good poop before your morning burn and I swear it’s more effective

[Laika]

My evening burns always feel superior to me. Not sure why/

[Quinndyl]

My best burn is usually my first of the day, but not always. It would make sense that the buildup of leaf after a couple of doses throughout the day is why some have better burns later in the day.

[Siegebruce]

My best is usually the first or the last, but always the one in the middle is the worst. My afternoon "in between" dose is just like a maintenance dose and I rarely get much from it. I should probably just skip it but it's already becoming a habit.

[Slippy]

As crazy as this may sound. Make sure you have a good poop before your morning burn and I swear it’s more effective

As crazy as this sounds, I think you may be on to something LOL.
Maybe it has to do with any left over stomach contents being able to head down into your intestines thus giving you more of an empty stomach.

[Spencemastaflex]

Mitra&friends should be a Saturday morning cartoon. I'd watch it!

[Payshince]

My evening burns always feel superior to me. Not sure why/

Same here.

[Love_Redz]

This is true for me , I never expect a good morning burn if I want one I have to take a bigger serving than usual and I never go over 6 gr anymore usually morning is 4 g the burn that primes the rest of my burns during the day and night , I’ve found the longer I go between doses the less effects I get off first burn, after my morning burn all the rest I get some sort of effect, most of the time great burns but I play with my dose and keep body and mind guessing what’s next lol, as far as eating I never deprive my self of a meal I just never over eat

[starshine]

yea. I've been noticing the same for a while. morning dose is just to help me move and that's about it (it's a good, necessary, start! lol). I've started taking a 'booster' 1/2 dose an hour or two after my first and this seems to help start the layering effect that seems to work best for me. by mid-afternoon, and subsequent doses of the day, I normally can get the added mood boost that helps so much.

[BobDylanKratom]

Same here. My morning burns are usually just enough to get me going but rarely memorable. My best burns are late afternoon, almost as if I need to build up my kratom levels before the full effects are felt. My usual dosage is 5g, but I’ve tried as little as 2.5g up to 7.5g in the AM and I’ve never felt is as strongly as I do late afternoon/early evening. Food usually interferes with my burns, but I don’t each much during the day anyway.