Soultanic not hitting

[IndelibleDotInk]

I ordered a buttload of samples from the last drop and none are hitting even a little.

Dosing 2-4g.

Anyone else not feeling the burn with Soul? He has so many positive supporters, am I doing something wrong??

[herbalhippie]

Not all vendors work for all people. Some vendors that people love don't work for me. Kratom is weird, man.

[the_spookiest]

have tried about...8 or 9 of his strains from this last drop. My first time ordering, so I also added some samples to my split. Its probably about a 50/50 split between hitting well and not so much. Notably the Red Ketapang was as big a miss as I could get, doses where its like 'did...i take anything?'
Seconding HH, yeah, its a weird leaf. sucks that theres no way to learn than the hard way...but at least you just have little 14g samples!

[Jfish030]

Its a very strange plant. I think with the continued research we will discover more. I personally dont think Mitra% means as much as others do. I think there is a combination of alkaloids that are needed to product a great product.

[zachdank]

I ordered a buttload of samples from the last drop and none are hitting even a little.

Dosing 2-4g.

Anyone else not feeling the burn with Soul? He has so many positive supporters, am I doing something wrong??

How many doses do you average a day? How long have your doses been at the current amount? How many other vendors are in your rotation? How many of those other vendors are honestly hitting at the level they usually do when Kratom has hit at its best for you? Also key elements that most people leave out are, how much regular daily exercise are you getting? How much quality sleep are you getting nightly? Has your stress levels been unusually high for any reason?
Seams as if its a daily thread on MM of "X vendor is not hitting on this last drop/order"
I know its happened to me a couple times. But if i was being honest with myself, there was always several other contributing factors that could have been more contributing to the said batches not hitting than the vendor themselves dropping bunk leaf.
Yes its possible, and i know vendors get random bad batches. Probably more unlikely now that its dry season, especially with vendors that have proven to have quality consistent batches from a fairly large group of people.
In my opinion 9 out of 10 people that are reporting vendors batches not working are more likely experiencing tolerance issues. Which is a lot easier than most people realize. Unless of course you see 3,4,5 people pop up complains about the exact same drop. Then you know its more likely a bad batch.
Tolerance issues pop up for people far more than is talked about.
For what its worth ive never even had Souls leaf. Not defending him. In fact his business model is a turn off for me. Tried to order once and after that i was like No thanks on that chaos

[zachdank]

Its a very strange plant. I think with the continued research we will discover more. I personally dont think Mitra% means as much as others do. I think there is a combination of alkaloids that are needed to product a great product.

I agree on the Mitra%

[brave777]

I did try soultanic green malay, didnt get a hits as well, just went back to lucky GMD. Other batches soultanic hit but some are miss. i think its like that with most vendors that expands in choices. Thats why i rather stick with few strains like lucky has and they been hitting for me, no other extra strains added unless confirmed it decent. Like the 2 reds lucky added. Those were nice. Or i ghess they have to be careful what they add to the menu because that can be a loss of customer for ever since they stuck with barley feel it, or lets say below average leaf. Applies to all vendors. Kind of like Smiley, some got lucky and picked fire leaf and someone hearing all the good thinks orders random strains and end up all just ok kratom. Also pay attention on batch numbers, once number is different it is not the same batch at all.

[IndelibleDotInk]

How many doses do you average a day? 1-3 / day

How long have your doses been at the current amount? several weeks at 2-4g

How many other vendors are in your rotation? TFH, MitraMan, Smiley, Denette, Liza, Fused, more

How many of those other vendors are honestly hitting at the level they usually do when Kratom has hit at its best for you? Not all of them make par, some more than others, but the Soul isn't hitting at all.

Also key elements that most people leave out are, how much regular daily exercise are you getting? Not enough as I want, but not sedentary.

How much quality sleep are you getting nightly? Great sleep.

Has your stress levels been unusually high for any reason? Only during panic or anxiety attacks, several times a month.

[Jestrice2002]

I ordered a buttload of samples from the last drop and none are hitting even a little.

Dosing 2-4g.

Anyone else not feeling the burn with Soul? He has so many positive supporters, am I doing something wrong??

How many doses do you average a day? How long have your doses been at the current amount? How many other vendors are in your rotation? How many of those other vendors are honestly hitting at the level they usually do when Kratom has hit at its best for you? Also key elements that most people leave out are, how much regular daily exercise are you getting? How much quality sleep are you getting nightly? Has your stress levels been unusually high for any reason?
Seams as if its a daily thread on MM of "X vendor is not hitting on this last drop/order"
I know its happened to me a couple times. But if i was being honest with myself, there was always several other contributing factors that could have been more contributing to the said batches not hitting than the vendor themselves dropping bunk leaf.
Yes its possible, and i know vendors get random bad batches. Probably more unlikely now that its dry season, especially with vendors that have proven to have quality consistent batches from a fairly large group of people.
In my opinion 9 out of 10 people that are reporting vendors batches not working are more likely experiencing tolerance issues. Which is a lot easier than most people realize. Unless of course you see 3,4,5 people pop up complains about the exact same drop. Then you know its more likely a bad batch.
Tolerance issues pop up for people far more than is talked about.
For what its worth ive never even had Souls leaf. Not defending him. In fact his business model is a turn off for me. Tried to order once and after that i was like No thanks on that chaos

Exactly, that's the most realistic issue.

[zachdank]

How many doses do you average a day? 1-3 / day

How long have your doses been at the current amount? several weeks at 2-4g

How many other vendors are in your rotation? TFH, MitraMan, Smiley, Denette, Liza, Fused, more

How many of those other vendors are honestly hitting at the level they usually do when Kratom has hit at its best for you? Not all of them make par, some more than others, but the Soul isn't hitting at all.

Also key elements that most people leave out are, how much regular daily exercise are you getting? Not enough as I want, but not sedentary.

How much quality sleep are you getting nightly? Great sleep.

Has your stress levels been unusually high for any reason? Only during panic or anxiety attacks, several times a month.

Sounds like you're doing pretty damn good to me brotha. Better than im doing. I def don't have any solid answers or advice. Id be interested if you were capable of taking 24 hours off or even better 48 hours then revisiting those Soul strains that aren't hitting. If they didn't smack you good after a 24 hour break, id say you either got some bunk leaf or your body chemistry just doesn't work well with that particular batch he imported. But aint telling youth take any break. Just interested if you did what the outcome would be then...
Good luck my dude. You might just be getting such high quality batches in the other vendors you listed that its bringing your tolerance up for even slightly less than fire leaf. Because i can def vouch that my last couple orders from Dentte, Mitraman, Rhino, Sosa, are so damn potent, i don't see how they couldn't be affecting my tolerance on slightly subpar leaf.

[Klubbs]

Maybe you just need to try those strains again. My body used to respond extremely well to kratom. New vendors and new strains would always hit great on the first try for over 2 years. Then all of a sudden, if i tried out a new vendor's strains for the first time, I didnt get much out of them. Sometimes it takes 2-3 tries for me to accurately judge a new strain. After those 2-3 tries, it hits really well. Like night and day. With all that being said, Soul's products always hit on the first time for me. I havent gotten a single dud or underwhelming strain all year from Soul. So I say give those samoles another shot.

[CatfatherB]

I've tried several from that drop and the only two I've taken that i didn't get a read on were the white and red Ketapang but I've only tried those once.. the white and red MD gave me great burns with long legs, I thought overall it was a great drop 2 out of 8.. I know I got 6 really good batches, I'll take those odds..

[the_spookiest]

I've tried several from that drop and the only two I've taken that i didn't get a read on were the white and red Ketapang but I've only tried those once.. the white and red MD gave me great burns with long legs, I thought overall it was a great drop 2 out of 8.. I know I got 6 really good batches, I'll take those odds..

huh....Catfather, the Red Ketapang was a whiff for you, too? good to know. I also tried mine only once but it was the night after I sampled his red buki from the same drop (awesome). as far as odds go youre absolutely right