Sosa finally shut down?

Post by **Rockcrete88** » Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:44 pm

Looks like Sosa’s website it shut down. Is he finally stopping taking orders? Anyone still owed product from him?

Post by **Spencemastaflex** » Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:19 pm

He got arrested for cocaine. He's been scamming people for months, maybe longer

Post by **the_spookiest** » Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:39 pm

There are multiple people i know of personally who have paid for orders not received. The writing was on the wall and people still threw their money away. I am sure there are many more I don't know of waiting in the wind. Maybe we can put this to bed now and realize there is a ton of great leaf out there, and that whoever supplied Ben is probably going to supply someone else.

Post by **mitragy9** » Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:53 pm

the_spookiest wrote:There are multiple people i know of personally who have paid for orders not received. The writing was on the wall and people still threw their money away. I am sure there are many more I don't know of waiting in the wind. Maybe we can put this to bed now and realize there is a ton of great leaf out there, and that whoever supplied Ben is probably going to supply someone else.

I hope so because his stuff was amazing.

Post by **CatfatherB** » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:43 pm

Well shit.. hope he gets the help he needs.

Post by **Spencemastaflex** » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:58 pm

Normally, I'd say the same thing, and I guess I do hope he gets help. But I can't really feel that bad for him at all given how many, probably hundreds, of people he ripped off. I'm just glad I wasn't one of them.

Post by **Adrumaddict** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:21 am

I'm sure there's red leaf out there that's as good, but I still haven't found it, and I've tried a lot. Anyone found some red leaf that's close to the same effects as Baik Bali, Red Sunda, or Red Sumatra from SOSA?

Post by **Spencemastaflex** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:41 pm

You may laugh, but botanical Bunny just got some killer reds in, red Bali, red nano, and prem wild red. All very good. Every red I've gotten from STH has been good.
I think it's just a group mentality thing thinking Sosa has the best reds, I think it gets hyped and people buy into it.

Post by **MycatTimmy** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:56 pm

I used to use Sosa exclusively until I tried TFH reds and some of them are actually better than Sosa’s

Post by **mitragy9** » Sat Oct 31, 2020 6:18 pm

Spencemastaflex wrote:You may laugh, but botanical Bunny just got some killer reds in, red Bali, red nano, and prem wild red. All very good. Every red I've gotten from STH has been good.
I think it's just a group mentality thing thinking Sosa has the best reds, I think it gets hyped and people buy into it.

I've never had any lucky with BB's reds pretty much everyone one I have ordered has been completely bunk for me. It's happened so many times that I don't even want to risk it with his newer stuff.

Post by **Adrumaddict** » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:13 am

MycatTimmy wrote:I used to use Sosa exclusively until I tried TFH reds and some of them are actually better than Sosa’s

Agreed. TFH literally has the only red leaf I've had so far that is as good. Lately I've been really enjoying the Red Elephant Kali, and the Deep Jungle Red MD. Also, I've never had a good red from B Bunny. A lot of them are slightly fermented, which isn't always a dealbreaker with me, but it's something I prefer to avoid since green reds just hit with so much more of a comprehensive red experience. Fermentation often seems to ruin the experience for me.

Post by **zachdank** » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:58 am

Spencemastaflex wrote:You may laugh, but botanical Bunny just got some killer reds in, red Bali, red nano, and prem wild red. All very good. Every red I've gotten from STH has been good.
I think it's just a group mentality thing thinking Sosa has the best reds, I think it gets hyped and people buy into it.

You're right....

I'm laughin

Post by **jabro70** » Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:44 pm

I love BB’s Greens. But other than the 8/18 Rojo Loco and 9/18 Red Kappuas, I haven’t had a lot of their reds impress me. The 5/18 Gold Bali was really good (it’s almost a red)

Post by **Spencemastaflex** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:18 am

Adrumaddict wrote:
MycatTimmy wrote:I used to use Sosa exclusively until I tried TFH reds and some of them are actually better than Sosa’s
Agreed. TFH literally has the only red leaf I've had so far that is as good. Lately I've been really enjoying the Red Elephant Kali, and the Deep Jungle Red MD. Also, I've never had a good red from B Bunny. A lot of them are slightly fermented, which isn't always a dealbreaker with me, but it's something I prefer to avoid since green reds just hit with so much more of a comprehensive red experience. Fermentation often seems to ruin the experience for me.

Red Bali and red nano are very slightly fermented but the premium wild red isn't, it's a green red

Post by **Spencemastaflex** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:20 am

zachdank wrote:
Spencemastaflex wrote:You may laugh, but botanical Bunny just got some killer reds in, red Bali, red nano, and prem wild red. All very good. Every red I've gotten from STH has been good.
I think it's just a group mentality thing thinking Sosa has the best reds, I think it gets hyped and people buy into it.
You're right....

I'm laughin

Meh, fuck off. Ya wouldn't know good kratom if it jammed itself down your throat.

Post by **mivanqua** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:04 am

I disagree. Sosa's reds were in a class all their own.
This is a MAJOR loss for the community..that Baik Bali is irreplaceable..I'm one of the "sent him unanswered e-mails for months" people. Glad he never answered, looks like.

Post by **CatfatherB** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:28 am

mivanqua wrote:I disagree. Sosa's reds were in a class all their own.
This is a MAJOR loss for the community..that Baik Bali is irreplaceable..I'm one of the "sent him unanswered e-mails for months" people. Glad he never answered, looks like.

I agree bud, the red Indo and green Horn from November December '18 were legendary.

Post by **Jaredsurf** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:42 am

He just got arrested again last week.

Post by **Adrumaddict** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:03 pm

Jaredsurf wrote:He just got arrested again last week.

Damn man. This is terrible news. Maybe he'll find his way into treatment via the court system, I hope at least.

Post by **mivanqua** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:14 pm

Jaredsurf wrote:He just got arrested again last week.

Man! I did heroin on and off for YEARS! Never even had a close call, meanwhile this guy is getting arrested every twenty minutes! He must be, as my friend Wayne used to say "eat up with it." That's really too bad, but what comes around goes around. The money is ill-gotten so whatever happens, happens. Nobody can change that.

Post by **herbalhippie** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:59 pm

High up on my list of the worst possible things is withdrawing from heroin in jail.

I have never had a habit, but I've seen people in withdrawals. I hope he finds healing some way.

Post by **herbalhippie** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:00 pm

mivanqua wrote:...that Baik Bali is irreplaceable.

Post by **LeafersonJr32** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:59 pm

mivanqua wrote:
Jaredsurf wrote:He just got arrested again last week.

Man! I did heroin on and off for YEARS! Never even had a close call, meanwhile this guy is getting arrested every twenty minutes! He must be, as my friend Wayne used to say "eat up with it." That's really too bad, but what comes around goes around. The money is ill-gotten so whatever happens, happens. Nobody can change that.

And his last arrest was for cocaine so I guess hes speedballing

Post by **mitragy9** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:21 pm

I've heard of meth users using kratom for the awful comedowns I wonder if it's the same with cocaine? Probably right? lol. Stims are fucking awful and make you do really stupid things like most hard drugs. Over time they completely fry your central nervous system especially cocaine for some reason. Hopefully he decides to turn his life around but you know how that goes some people just have to hit absolute rock bottom before they decide to change things for the better. Really shitty that a bunch of people were scammed from this whole situation.

Post by **mivanqua** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:25 pm

Corde32 wrote:
mivanqua wrote:
Jaredsurf wrote:He just got arrested again last week.

Man! I did heroin on and off for YEARS! Never even had a close call, meanwhile this guy is getting arrested every twenty minutes! He must be, as my friend Wayne used to say "eat up with it." That's really too bad, but what comes around goes around. The money is ill-gotten so whatever happens, happens. Nobody can change that.
And his last arrest was for cocaine so I guess hes speedballing

I was saying that I myself did heroin for years. Not trying to start any rumors. I dont know what he was into besides coke and getting caught rather frequently.

Post by **LeafersonJr32** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:26 pm

mitragy9 wrote:I've heard of meth users using kratom for the awful comedowns I wonder if it's the same with cocaine? Probably right? lol. Stims are fucking awful and make you do really stupid things like most hard drugs. Over time they completely fry your central nervous system especially cocaine for some reason. Hopefully he decides to turn his life around but you know how that goes some people just have to hit absolute rock bottom before they decide to change things for the better. Really shitty that a bunch of people were scammed from this whole situation.

Yeah it is super shitty. Crazy thing is dude had to just completely go off the deep end man I mean imagine how much money he had to be making from sosa. He could have easily managed an expensive drug habit without getting into all this mess.

Post by **herbalhippie** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:34 pm

I believe he was doing heroin as well. I saw two of the police report things. Heroin and cocaine. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.

Post by **mitragy9** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:37 pm

Corde32 wrote: Yeah it is super shitty. Crazy thing is dude had to just completely go off the deep end man I mean imagine how much money he had to be making from sosa. He could have easily managed an expensive drug habit without getting into all this mess.

That's cocaine for ya. Even a cargo ship load of powder wouldn't be enough. You snort until every spec of that white powder is gone, it really is an awful drug. I really do hope he decides to be done living like that because it's absolute hell after a while and just implodes every aspect of your life.

Post by **mivanqua** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:19 pm

Corde32 wrote:
mitragy9 wrote:I've heard of meth users using kratom for the awful comedowns I wonder if it's the same with cocaine? Probably right? lol. Stims are fucking awful and make you do really stupid things like most hard drugs. Over time they completely fry your central nervous system especially cocaine for some reason. Hopefully he decides to turn his life around but you know how that goes some people just have to hit absolute rock bottom before they decide to change things for the better. Really shitty that a bunch of people were scammed from this whole situation.
Yeah it is super shitty. Crazy thing is dude had to just completely go off the deep end man I mean imagine how much money he had to be making from sosa. He could have easily managed an expensive drug habit without getting into all this mess.

Maybe that's what he's BEEN doing but it got on top of him. Addiction ramps itself up to unbelievable levels basically right under your nose (no pun intended) if left unchecked, and who REALLY monitors their coke or heroin use more than how much they can afford for any given score? I think the other thing about this, and this is unintended on his part but he should have THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, it shines a bad light on kratom itself if he was wrapped up in this shit to the extent it most definitely looks like. I can see the FDA running with this but I dont want to say exactly how/give those fuckers ANY ideas.

Post by **zachdank** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:51 pm

Spencemastaflex wrote:
Meh, fuck off. Ya wouldn't know good kratom if it jammed itself down your throat.

Lol damn you got me there bud

I def wouldn't know a thing about good kratom...
Take a deep breath and count to 10 tuff guy

Post by **zachdank** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:57 pm

mivanqua wrote:I disagree. Sosa's reds were in a class all their own.
This is a MAJOR loss for the community..that Baik Bali is irreplaceable..I'm one of the "sent him unanswered e-mails for months" people. Glad he never answered, looks like.

FACTS ^^^^
I just sent out about a kilo of Baik Bali and Red Sunda to a buncha the homies on Mewe since they couldn't get their hands on it any longer and I hoarded a bunch of Sosa knowing this time was inevitably coming.

But apparently I wouldn't know good Kratom if it shoved itself down my throat

Post by **herbalhippie** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:24 pm

zachdank wrote: I just sent out about a kilo of Baik Bali and Red Sunda to a buncha the homies on Mewe

That was nice. Where's ours?

Post by **instantKARMA** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:28 pm

zachdank wrote:But apparently I wouldn't know good Kratom if it shoved itself down my throat

Well.......that's what I heard! Everybody's been sayin' it!

Post by **zachdank** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:30 pm

herbalhippie wrote:
zachdank wrote: I just sent out about a kilo of Baik Bali and Red Sunda to a buncha the homies on Mewe
That was nice. Where's ours?

Wwwwhat HH?? Lol I remember specifically offering you some Sosa I think about 1 or 2 months ago and ya didn't even answer me

For reals. It was the time I sent out Jestrice and Corde a buncha Sosa cause they were striking out at the time. I was like shit I guess HH just ain't down with the Sosa. I'd still send you some if I didn't ship out just shy of 2 sosa keys today. I'm almost kicking myself. Least I still got a couple left to stretch out over the next 5-10 years hahaha

Post by **zachdank** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:32 pm

instantKARMA wrote:

Well.......that's what I heard! Everybody's been sayin' it!

Crawls back under rock

Post by **herbalhippie** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:36 pm

I was just yankin' yer chain, I have a couple kilos myself.

Post by **mivanqua** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:37 pm

zachdank wrote:
instantKARMA wrote:

Well.......that's what I heard! Everybody's been sayin' it!
Crawls back under rock

Well...the YouTube video of you getting Emerald Thai shoved down your throat while whimpering "what is this? What's in the box? WHATS IN THE F''IN BOX???" didn't help too much. Not to bring up a touchy subject, but...

Post by **zachdank** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:48 pm

mivanqua wrote:
Well...the YouTube video of you getting Emerald Thai shoved down your throat while whimpering "what is this? What's in the box? WHATS IN THE F''IN BOX???" didn't help too much. Not to bring up a touchy subject, but...

Hahahaha

what's in the boooxxxxx!!!

Least good humor isn't wasted on some double M fools

Now run along erybody before I gota put Ballz back in the corner for timeout with Grandmasterflex... Kids these days.. and retirement homes with their weak regulation on intraweb posting

Post by **zachdank** » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:49 pm

herbalhippie wrote:I was just yankin' yer chain, I have a couple kilos myself.

Chain yanker!

Post by **ineedleaffml** » Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:32 am

Well, can't say that this is a surprise. I got excited researching TFH only to find it is "members only" lol.

Can anyone please recommend some vendors with good Red Borneo or similar strains?