Finding the "Sweet Spot" for dosing

[Derpdawg]

I hear a lot of talk about finding the "sweet spot" dose for your kratom burn. It varies based on the strain color, strain type, etc. I've heard people write that they sometimes need to take a strain a few times before they can find the "sweet spot" for their desired effects.

What is your usual "sweet spot" dose for kratom? Does it usually depend on the color, or is it while dependent on the strain itself? How do you usually go about finding the sweet spot dose?

[Jean des Esseintes]

I would say if you average dose for average vendor is 4g then start with 3. add a g 45min to an hour later if nothing, and maybe another .5 to g an hour later if still not much. Then leave that strain alone for a couple days and adjust next try accordingly.

If a strain feels great then knocks you out quickly, wait a day or two then try half the next burn.

Personally I'm of the three strikes and you're out rule...

I’ve posted this elsewhere, but for you new TFH folks out there put in your time with a strain. If average burn is say 3 g for other vendors/strains, then TFH can range between .75g and 8g depending on the strain. Everything strain I have had from TFH scales well.

[Mossy7]

Jean can you post which TFH strains scale low and which scale high for you? The 3 I would most be interested in kowing are lazy sundae, 30yr Wild Bali and super green Muna.

[BallzDeep9]

If average burn is say 3g ... then TFH can range between .75g and 8g depending on the strain. Everything strain I have had from TFH scales well.

Start with good "average kratom"... which is MOST kratom sold by most vendors. What is the Minimum dose, on empty stomach, you can feel ?? That's a baseline for anyone.

IF your baseline average dose, is 3g -- then most any TFH would be less, since it's above average kratom. . So your "Sweet Spot" for TFH in that case, would be 1.5 g to maybe 2.5 tops? I'd have to flat disagree that anyone would need 8g of TFH top quality leaf ?? that's a stupid dose and wasting good leaf, and it's way over what anyone needs... But, yes a large # of folks have blown-out their tolerance, with silly high doses, and they can't feel kratom... In that case: Start Over. Take a break people!!

And uh... Get a Scale. . Amazing how many folks are just choking down spoonfulls of powder

[Jean des Esseintes]

General Rule of thumb for me, most TFH Whites burn low. greens & reds in the middle, (but remember lower than "average" leaf), yellows and golds middle to higher

I always start with TFH at 1/2 to 2/3 's my normal leaf burn

White horn was the .75 dose for me, no longer on the menu Current TFH white menu.

Current TFH whites menu mostly 1-1.5 g, some 2g.

Super Green Muna lower than average 1/2 to 2/3 average burn. 30 year Red Bali. average burn but scaled up well. Lazy sundae, for me is energetic at average TFH burn, I did not find it as magical a strain as others have. I have not really played around with Lazy Sundae

[DittonW]

If average burn is say 3g ... then TFH can range between .75g and 8g depending on the strain. Everything strain I have had from TFH scales well.

Start with good "average kratom"... which is MOST kratom sold by most vendors. What is the Minimum dose, on empty stomach, you can feel ?? That's a baseline for anyone.

IF your baseline average dose, is 3g -- then most any TFH would be less, since it's above average kratom. . So your "Sweet Spot" for TFH in that case, would be 1.5 g to maybe 2.5 tops? I'd have to flat disagree that anyone would need 8g of TFH top quality leaf ?? that's a stupid dose and wasting good leaf, and it's way over what anyone needs... But, yes a large # of folks have blown-out their tolerance, with silly high doses, and they can't feel kratom... In that case: Start Over. Take a break people!!

And uh... Get a Scale. . Amazing how many folks are just choking down spoonfulls of powder

so using a bell curve - most people will find the sweet spot at somewhere around 2 grams . While some might need as much as 4 . But on the other side of the bell some people are good with .1 grams or even no kratom at all?

[brave777]

I honestly think if you feeling good normal and no pain, there is no reason to take kratom because your asking for trouble. But max 2 grams a day will not hurt to boost the morality of the day,. like maybe 1 gram in morning and one gram at lunch or just 2 grams when ever you need most support during the day.

[onespeedstop]

Trial and error. I do use a measuring spoon, but I've got my usual amount I take, and that's that. Sometimes it hits harder than others, and sometimes it's a bit weaker, oh well, they can't all be winners eh. Plus, I'm not a scientist, I don't wear a lab coat when mixing my kratom into my orange juice, it's kratom, I take some and get on with my life, no science required.

[shako12]

i'm sure it's been repeatedly a lot of times here already, but i like to follow the 'less is more' motto. there's a clear diminishing returns effect i have when my dosage goes up. i find the sweet spot is 2grams give or take 3 times a day for me as a daily user. any more i find is not worth increasing your tolerance for.

[Playerpiano72]

Do 5 grams, go from there. Don't let the dose haters scare you.

[FacetiousB]

If average burn is say 3g ... then TFH can range between .75g and 8g depending on the strain. Everything strain I have had from TFH scales well.

Start with good "average kratom"... which is MOST kratom sold by most vendors. What is the Minimum dose, on empty stomach, you can feel ?? That's a baseline for anyone.

IF your baseline average dose, is 3g -- then most any TFH would be less, since it's above average kratom. . So your "Sweet Spot" for TFH in that case, would be 1.5 g to maybe 2.5 tops? I'd have to flat disagree that anyone would need 8g of TFH top quality leaf ?? that's a stupid dose and wasting good leaf, and it's way over what anyone needs... But, yes a large # of folks have blown-out their tolerance, with silly high doses, and they can't feel kratom... In that case: Start Over. Take a break people!!

And uh... Get a Scale. . Amazing how many folks are just choking down spoonfulls of powder

I've been reading that strategy from a lot of people about TFH and decided to try it. When I first received mine I took my normal dosage of 4.5g and it was almost overwhelming. Got really foggy and almost sluggish. Waited a few days and tried 1.5g first thing in the morning and it was magical. Reminiscent of my honeymoon phase with it. You guys are right about the less is more theory with their stuff. Thanks for all the info n keep it up!