Red-headed problems
- IndelibleDotInk
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Red-headed problems
I've been taking kratom for almost two years. Aside from tolerance and finding the sweet spot and having a finicky chemical makeup, things can be good.
Except for reds. Dark reds, fermented reds, green reds, pink blends. The majority just don't hit. A recent Bunny super red did hit, not hard, but I felt it. Same with a few TFH batches, particularly sapphire sunda. But rhino, heavenleaf, fused (red kapuas was ok), lsms, soul, SOSA, smiley, denette615, koality, loe all lack the oomph. Anyone else have this happening? And solutions?
Except for reds. Dark reds, fermented reds, green reds, pink blends. The majority just don't hit. A recent Bunny super red did hit, not hard, but I felt it. Same with a few TFH batches, particularly sapphire sunda. But rhino, heavenleaf, fused (red kapuas was ok), lsms, soul, SOSA, smiley, denette615, koality, loe all lack the oomph. Anyone else have this happening? And solutions?
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Re: Red-headed problems
I have, or have had a very similar issue. I've been taking Kratom for a little over two years and have had almost no success with reds, except for bonafide daytime reds (like TFH's Rocket Red and Sapphire Samarinda.....if I did a blindfold test for either of those, I guarantee I'd think they were upper mid-spec greens). But those strains are kind of a different story and I still felt like I was missing out on a more "classic" red experience (somewhat slower and more euphoric).
Recently, though I've had a bit more luck. I'm usually a pretty low doser (typically 1.4-1.7g). I went back to some reds that I'd tried only a couple of times (for example, Rhino's Red Rhino from mid-2020, TFH's Trad. Red Dayak, and a Lone Star Mitra red test strain) and upped my dose to just a little over 2g. At that size, the Red Dayak was truly excellent for me (though when I tried it again a couple of weeks later, I again got virtually nothing from it), and the other two also worked quite well. I also have been adding reds to greens at a 2:1 green-to-red ratio (also at a larger overall dose size; around 2.1 -2.5 g), and there was no doubt that it brought a different feel to the greens in a positive way.
Overall, though reds are still very hit-or-miss for me. For example, the first time I tried TFH's Red Ryder Riau, it was heavenly for me. Never again after that!! And I know you frequently talk about finding your "sweet spot" in various posts, so I can relate. The interesting thing about some reds starting to work better for me is that my body chem in general seems to have changed in relation to kratom over the past year. Mainly, I find that they take longer to hit (around 45 minutes to an hour), and that they last longer for me, sometimes with a bit of a "second wave" after two hours or so....that is all particularly true with many TFH batches. I'm not sure why the change happened....I did take a small break from using and then came back to it using very low doses, and when I went back up on the doses I got some of the "magic" back, but with a much longer time needed for me to feel them. So I just keep playing with dosages and move back and forth between blending for a few days, then just using one strain at a time for a few days.
It's a super-interesting substance for sure, and can definitely be "fickle" as they say, but I know you already know that!
Recently, though I've had a bit more luck. I'm usually a pretty low doser (typically 1.4-1.7g). I went back to some reds that I'd tried only a couple of times (for example, Rhino's Red Rhino from mid-2020, TFH's Trad. Red Dayak, and a Lone Star Mitra red test strain) and upped my dose to just a little over 2g. At that size, the Red Dayak was truly excellent for me (though when I tried it again a couple of weeks later, I again got virtually nothing from it), and the other two also worked quite well. I also have been adding reds to greens at a 2:1 green-to-red ratio (also at a larger overall dose size; around 2.1 -2.5 g), and there was no doubt that it brought a different feel to the greens in a positive way.
Overall, though reds are still very hit-or-miss for me. For example, the first time I tried TFH's Red Ryder Riau, it was heavenly for me. Never again after that!! And I know you frequently talk about finding your "sweet spot" in various posts, so I can relate. The interesting thing about some reds starting to work better for me is that my body chem in general seems to have changed in relation to kratom over the past year. Mainly, I find that they take longer to hit (around 45 minutes to an hour), and that they last longer for me, sometimes with a bit of a "second wave" after two hours or so....that is all particularly true with many TFH batches. I'm not sure why the change happened....I did take a small break from using and then came back to it using very low doses, and when I went back up on the doses I got some of the "magic" back, but with a much longer time needed for me to feel them. So I just keep playing with dosages and move back and forth between blending for a few days, then just using one strain at a time for a few days.
It's a super-interesting substance for sure, and can definitely be "fickle" as they say, but I know you already know that!
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GreatIAm33
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Re: Red-headed problems
I tend to enjoy reds quite a bit. But what I have noticed is that with reds and in particular bents or any "fermented" kratom, I typically have to take more than usual to get where I want to be. But if it's good it will be a different feeling than a green or white and I personally really enjoy it
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Re: Red-headed problems
I mostly take whites and fast greens. I love the euphoria and energy. Usually when I order from vendors, I don't get reds as I prefer to stock up on whites and greens. But occasionally I will try a red or get one as a sample. Reds and I have a weird history. Either they work really well, or not much at all. And I agree, a red is definitely a different kind of feeling.
One red that has consistently worked great for me is KOG Red Aceh. It's a fast red.
One of TFH's reds was also amazing. It was a sample I received during a round of testing. I'll have to dig up the strain name if I can find it. I was surprised when I took this one because it was sooo good and I wasn't expecting a red to work that great for me.
And Smiley Time's Red Glow was another standout red for me. Great deep relaxation.
Those are 3 off the top of my head that have always worked well, even when I'm usually not really a reds kind of guy.
One red that has consistently worked great for me is KOG Red Aceh. It's a fast red.
One of TFH's reds was also amazing. It was a sample I received during a round of testing. I'll have to dig up the strain name if I can find it. I was surprised when I took this one because it was sooo good and I wasn't expecting a red to work that great for me.
And Smiley Time's Red Glow was another standout red for me. Great deep relaxation.
Those are 3 off the top of my head that have always worked well, even when I'm usually not really a reds kind of guy.
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Re: Red-headed problems
Find it?e_poison wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:27 pm One of TFH's reds was also amazing. It was a sample I received during a round of testing. I'll have to dig up the strain name if I can find it. I was surprised when I took this one because it was sooo good and I wasn't expecting a red to work that great for me.
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Re: Red-headed problems
I agree I need some recommendations on the best reds I’ve been using hippo and some pier create them and they are good but I’ve been using them too long I need some new vendors with some good daytime and evening time reds
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Re: Red-headed problems
Yeah I have a harder time getting Reds to hit because I usually like them at night and my stomach's never empty then. Plus they're milder to begin with. So definitely a higher dose and sometimes I need to add a white or extract with it. Any enhancers too like a grapefruit is my favorite. I also keep my turmeric doses as far away from my kratom ones as I can. It enhances it over the long run but short term it helps kill the burn.
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Ravenflow
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Re: Red-headed problems
Im the same way reds just don't do it for me reds are super hit or miss I've Had to stop buying them. I personally like white the best I like the energy from whites
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Re: Red-headed problems
No, can't find it. But it's gotta be around here somewhere...IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 11:33 amFind it?e_poison wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 8:27 pm One of TFH's reds was also amazing. It was a sample I received during a round of testing. I'll have to dig up the strain name if I can find it. I was surprised when I took this one because it was sooo good and I wasn't expecting a red to work that great for me.
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Re: Red-headed problems
It’s funny cause reds hit great for me, although I went to greenz once and they didn’t do much for me but once I dosed for about 3 to four dayz they started hitting hard and loved it went back to redz and they didn’t hit so I kept trying and they started working again which led me to believe you can change body chem preferences and the body and mind adapt, just a 3 am thought I had a few years back basically I can get any color to work if I keep at it.
P.S. the 100 g should arrive at your home Tuesday or Wednesday of next week IndelibleDotInk
I’ve been having a Readheaded problem lately but that’s a whole other topic and different story all together lol
P.S. the 100 g should arrive at your home Tuesday or Wednesday of next week IndelibleDotInk
I’ve been having a Readheaded problem lately but that’s a whole other topic and different story all together lol
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Re: Red-headed problems
Mahalo Redz!
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Your welcome, I’ve tried contacting you a few times but my pm’s are not going through I have a tracking number I just don’t know how to get it to you without posting it would you like me to put it here
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Re: Red-headed problems
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Re: Red-headed problems
Yeah, I thought there could be a prob with PMs here, you can email me '[email protected]'.
And I traded the last of my redbone recently, I received a large amount of sacred son's walter white, my favorite white blend, if you'd like to sample. LMK what you're into and I can put something together.
And I traded the last of my redbone recently, I received a large amount of sacred son's walter white, my favorite white blend, if you'd like to sample. LMK what you're into and I can put something together.
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Re: Red-headed problems
I clicked expecting to see how kratom interacts differently with redheads, but was not disappointed as I feel the same way about reds. I might just give up and start adding a few whites to my orders.
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Re: Red-headed problems
I did a diagnostics on the PM system and there is absolutely nothing wrong. If PMs aren't going through, you and/or the recipient needs to clear their inbox/outbox. The only way a PM would not go through is if a mailbox is full.IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:29 pm Yeah, I thought there could be a prob with PMs here
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Re: Red-headed problems
ok, i'll do that, thanks e_.
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Love_Redz
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Re: Red-headed problems
My pm box not full but it’s definitely something I’m doing wrong lol I’ll have to try again and see what I’m doing wrong as soon as I get time real busy lately, and thank youe_poison wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:45 pmI did a diagnostics on the PM system and there is absolutely nothing wrong. If PMs aren't going through, you and/or the recipient needs to clear their inbox/outbox. The only way a PM would not go through is if a mailbox is full.IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 12:29 pm Yeah, I thought there could be a prob with PMs here