Tolerance reset
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jbuc007
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Tolerance reset
I need to reset because of tolerance. I always dose greens (15g-20g per day 2years) so should I try Javinica or Hisuta? What about stem and vein and where can I get stem and vein? The only place I can find is HH. I would welcome any and all info.
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Adrumaddict
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Re: Tolerance reset
LoneStar Mitrasource has a nice pink stem and vein that worked well for me. I took a hefty dose of it in place of one of my daily burns for about a week. You don't feel like you've taken anything, but it keeps any discomfort from skipping a burn to a minimum. I haven't used Javinica or Hirsuta yet.
- Babel-17
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Re: Tolerance reset
I've used Hirsuta, Javanica, and a fair amount of Stem and Vein, but not in a manner that has me confident about drawing specific conclusions.
If the choice is between Hirsuta and Javanica then I'll say that what I've read people post has me thinking that Hirsuta has the edge when it comes to using them for a tolerance reset. Javanica maybe having an edge prior to going to bed.
Stem and Vein is probably the most useful, but the conventional wisdom says that it can have around 30% actual Kratom leaf that was still part of the stem and vein. Possibly not the most potent Kratom, but still Kratom.
I've used Otie's Botanicals Stem and Vein as well as some others, and in fact I had some as an in-between serving a couple of days ago, though I haven't used it much lately, except as part of a blend I sometimes use. But I think it's really popular as they often run out of it, and people ask when they will restock.
I think it has it's fair share of Kratom leaf on the stem and vein that they use, as it doesn't hit me as being just a Kratom alternative.
I've read similar comments about other popular versions of stem and vein. IIRC Fused Flora is said to carry good stem and vein and good Hirsuta. I just checked and Otie's now sells Hirsuta and Javanica too, and they are out of stock on the Stem and Vein. I've read that making good stem and vein is something of an art, one not everyone is adept at, so maybe running out from time to time indicates that they are getting it from someone who has high standards.
If the choice is between Hirsuta and Javanica then I'll say that what I've read people post has me thinking that Hirsuta has the edge when it comes to using them for a tolerance reset. Javanica maybe having an edge prior to going to bed.
Stem and Vein is probably the most useful, but the conventional wisdom says that it can have around 30% actual Kratom leaf that was still part of the stem and vein. Possibly not the most potent Kratom, but still Kratom.
I've used Otie's Botanicals Stem and Vein as well as some others, and in fact I had some as an in-between serving a couple of days ago, though I haven't used it much lately, except as part of a blend I sometimes use. But I think it's really popular as they often run out of it, and people ask when they will restock.
I think it has it's fair share of Kratom leaf on the stem and vein that they use, as it doesn't hit me as being just a Kratom alternative.
I've read similar comments about other popular versions of stem and vein. IIRC Fused Flora is said to carry good stem and vein and good Hirsuta. I just checked and Otie's now sells Hirsuta and Javanica too, and they are out of stock on the Stem and Vein. I've read that making good stem and vein is something of an art, one not everyone is adept at, so maybe running out from time to time indicates that they are getting it from someone who has high standards.
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Bandit357
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Re: Tolerance reset
Hirsuta is helping me through the day
buitnat night intake kratomfor relaxing and rls
I purchased hirsuta from oties and is really good in my opinion
buitnat night intake kratomfor relaxing and rls
I purchased hirsuta from oties and is really good in my opinion
- Daydreamsofmountains
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Re: Tolerance reset
I really like Otie’s Hirsuta too. I have essentially added it in as a mid day dose a few times a week due to its clear headed nature and to support with tolerance a bit.
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Redlion40
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Re: Tolerance reset
Vitamin C, low amounts of tryptophan, ginger, and raw honey can all keep your tolerance down using different mechanics.
- brave777
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Re: Tolerance reset
DR ZENEKO pill https://vladimirzelenkomd.com/#vitamins reset everything. I tried for different reasons like eating naasty fast foods and feeling crap from it, when i was on the road i went to sleep and took 2 pills, next morning few grams hit me like a brick and i usually take more ten few grams. Not sure which ingredient effective most in the pills it contains, vit d , vit c, zinc and quercetin. Maybe its the combo effect, who knows. It also works for random flu's. Get a hold of some ginger and deink that daily as well, i believe it also helps a lot. All this helps but in truth i dont think stem and vein or hirsuta is needed if you just cut kratom to very low, like take 80% less kratom from your dose, you wont feel much but it will lower your T and just barley keep your WD at bay, take low amount for a week or so. Unless you want to cold turkey kratom then i would stick with Vit C just higher doses. And if have other stuff mentioned, use it.
Kratom user since 2014!