Anyone have experience with Javanica? Hirsuta?

[Shimmery Heavyweight]

Hi there,

In order to give my system a rest from Kratom, I decided to wean/off down and try Hirsuta and Javanica. Anyone have experience with them? I know they are less intense? But Kratom stopped being euphoric after the first few weeks, and they was even after putting it down for 3 years..

Interestingly, I bought a scale and learned was actually taking less Kratom than I thought. I thought I was doing 10-15 a day, it was more like 6-8, maybe 10ish at times.

Thanks!!

[Mrbonus2]

Yeah I’ve enjoyed Hirsuta if you get from a reputable vendor than it can be just as good as kratom or even better. I keep some on hand for tolerance breaks.

[Bandit357]

fused flora, Bennis, Oties all have great Hirsuta waiting on Mitra man to stock his hirsuta
Stem and vien helps as well I find oties hirsuta being the one that hits me the best but all are good

[Timothy1390]

I have used it a lot in past and it works well. It is less numby than kratom for sure and seems to have a less redose vibe. I know of folks who have tapered off using hirsuta. I have like 6 kilos right now probably. lol

[Detuned]

So lets assume you have real hirsuta and Real javainca, which of them is more potent? Whats the Difference?
I have had both of them, javainca really looked and Tasted like old, Bad kratom. Hirsuta really tasted different, really Bad Taste and also looked much darker. Cant really say much about the effect as i always took it on top to improve my kratom burn

[Badgame85]

fused flora, Bennis, Oties all have great Hirsuta waiting on Mitra man to stock his hirsuta
Stem and vien helps as well I find oties hirsuta being the one that hits me the best but all are good

I concur on this.

Javanica is trash and chances are whoever is selling it probably knows/doesn't know that its not even really Javanica. Just my opinion.

But Hirsuta is great, uplifting and energetic for me. But ONLY if you find good stuff. MM has had the best I've ever had. When he has some it is usually stellar. I have tried Oties, and Benni's, and FF all with varying degrees of success.

I don't know how well it works as a tolerance break, because I always feel similar effects from Hirsuta compared to Kratom and never know if my kratom doesn't work because its bad or I still need more tolerance resetting.