Ned a cleaner delivery method

[baglicker]

I am looking for a way to make a tea or something, a system that helps filter out sludge, but not taking athe actual leaf away, or the alkaloids. I know ZILCH about it, and have read a few posts regarding the freeze and filter smoothie, but I can not find it it on post in its entirety, and to be honest, it seems a lot of steps for a days dose.

I thought of brewing tea in my metal tea thingy, but wonder if all the powder will come out. I know not to use boiling water, as it damages the structure and efficacy of the alkaloids, so 130 - 140 Fahrenheit seems a good place to start.

Does anyone tea NOW after being a t&w'er or a liquid mix/slammer? i started with t&w and moved onto mixing it with water and slamming, and now i use warm water and slam, but the sludge is KILLING me.

I did spend 30 minutes putting my powder in capsules for this weekend away from home, and found that the strength is lessened, but the length of the dose seems to increase. I was traveling in a car all weekend and was in pretty bad pain, and took more capsules than a regular dose due to the potency decrease. It could all be in my head, but my body begs to differ.

Any suggestions for my struggle? I do not want to slam sludge any more!

[WotAnAtti2d]

I've done a lot of research on tea after trying kratom for my first time and winding up with horrible gastrointestinal pain. I made a couple of tea tutorials, one for powder and one for crushed leaf.

Tea with crushed leaf: https://imgur.com/a/oMN6g

Tea with powder: https://imgur.com/a/1AXup

Also, if you'd like to have them on your computer (in case anything bad happens and I have to take them down), I made them downloadable in PowerPoint format. If you don't have PowerPoint, the link includes a free viewer.

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AjfXaUrw4G_waaBNFA5LEyyaiwY

I hope this helps you out!

[BallzDeep9]

have read a few posts regarding the freeze and filter smoothie...

Here I'll whip out the LINK: Freeze & Filter: Green Alkaloid Smoothie -- I tried to setup this Tutorial for a "Cold Filtered" kratom Smoothie, step by step. Its pretty straight forward once you do it a few times .. kind of like brewing coffee I guess.

All of the investment in stainless steel Tea Infuser, power hand held Milk Frother, and 8-oz plastic Freezer Jars .. are totally worth it. As I posted elsewhere .. Once you've filtered sludge, I don't think most people could ever go back.. to eating that mud. Yuck! Coffee grounds. yes.. and I'm just now, at the point where I'm skimming off the goodies. Kratom is cheap right? So let's say I take 4 grams normally - I could afford to freeze double that, 8 grams. Skim off the alkaloids, tossing a bit MORE sludge .. get a much cleaner effect. One problem then would be measuring your dose, I'm wrestling with that now. But after re-freezing sludge a few times .. there's very little alkaloid remaining.

[baglicker]

I made a couple of tea tutorials, one for powder and one for crushed leaf.

Tea with crushed leaf: https://imgur.com/a/oMN6g

Tea with powder: https://imgur.com/a/1AXup





I hope this helps you out!

Interesting! I may just try this in the morning with a similar filter system, I have a very fine one that came with my coffee maker. I also have another steel ball one with bigger holes I'd like to try.

I would avoid any temps over 140 to prevent damaging the alkaloids. That is right before boiling-ish. I may experiment with a few different temperatures however on my own to really see if that is enough to notice a difference in efficacy.

Thank you so much for all this awesome information! You are really helping a lot, great resources, I really appreciate it. I'll update you on the trials. Thanks again.

[baglicker]

have read a few posts regarding the freeze and filter smoothie...

Here I'll whip out the LINK: Freeze & Filter: Green Alkaloid Smoothie -- I tried to setup this Tutorial for a "Cold Filtered" kratom Smoothie, step by step. Its pretty straight forward once you do it a few times .. kind of like brewing coffee I guess.

All of the investment in stainless steel Tea Infuser, power hand held Milk Frother, and 8-oz plastic Freezer Jars .. are totally worth it. As I posted elsewhere .. Once you've filtered sludge, I don't think most people could ever go back.. to eating that mud. Yuck! Coffee grounds. yes.. and I'm just now, at the point where I'm skimming off the goodies. Kratom is cheap right? So let's say I take 4 grams normally - I could afford to freeze double that, 8 grams. Skim off the alkaloids, tossing a bit MORE sludge .. get a much cleaner effect. One problem then would be measuring your dose, I'm wrestling with that now. But after re-freezing sludge a few times .. there's very little alkaloid remaining.

Oh thank you! I did read it through a few times. Maybe I'm missing something, or it isn't as comprehensive as it could be, but I think I get the basic idea given your materials and I understand lysis enough to give this recipe a go.

I'm very interested in it and the effects from breaking open the alkaloids. I will read up a bit more on it before I freeze. Thanks for directing me! Much appreciated, I'm going to Natural Grocers tomorrow to gram a bottle of citric acid. I'll update the forum with my results. Thanks again.

[WotAnAtti2d]

I would avoid any temps over 140 to prevent damaging the alkaloids. That is right before boiling-ish. I may experiment with a few different temperatures however on my own to really see if that is enough to notice a difference in efficacy.

Heat destroying the alkaloids is a myth. If heat were to destroy alkaloids, how is extract made? If you don't get the tea up to a boiling point (it doesn't need to stay boiling), you won't set the solution to maintain heat to break down the cell walls, releasing the alkaloids. You can try it as you wish, but I've had a lot of positive feedback on the way the tutorial is created.

You're welcome and I hope however you try it, it works for you!