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Anyone had issues with drug tests and kratom i should be good right??
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Holy shit im seeing you can test false postive for methadone going to have to use the quickfix 3.0 anyone have any insight???????
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Most important thing - is to know.... You got this in the bag. Congrat's in advance.

Pages like the one this links to might scare you more than help but it does touch on some things you can do- but the test method & comprehensiveness can matter (the employer went cheap, no worries)
https://socialifestylemag.com/2019/09/h ... trategies/

Do what you have time to do - for cheap pre employ urine tests (good chance it'll be saliva test though), the "pee test drink" (yea) is or was very effective (unless they screen for creatine loading- what that ptd is made of mostly) - beyond that, just be stoic and seize the job. Don't let unwanted possiblility knock you off center. There's always a threat and truth is... it's not likely going to come up.


You have stopped consuming, haven't you?

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Trippyhippydippy wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:43 pm Holy shit im seeing you can test false postive for methadone going to have to use the quickfix 3.0 anyone have any insight???????
I wouldn't worry about this too much. I've never had this happen on any urine test and I've been taking kratom for years.
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The rule of thumb I've seen MANY times here is that after three days there is no trace of Kratom in your system. So - that's an easy task. Just stay off three days, take the test, and don't worry one single bit.
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Well considering that any drug test is easily cheated except for ones for parole, or the army. I’ve never really worried about one for regular jobs because I smoke weed which takes forever to leave the system if you do It daily; so I’m always gonna cheat on my test either way. Generally as long as they don’t watch you I can think of three ways to perfectly cheap that test every time. Funny though is even if they watch you can get away using some more radical means ask Mike Tyson. Having done the whole thing where they strip you, and check sometimes I don’t know how he did it but they sure got me when I tried to cheat like he did for some charges. Another thing is you can always ask for a second one false positives do happen, and have to people I know but usually for amphetamines which certain drugs like steroids, and others can cause a it to show positive but I’ve never seen it for kratom which many guys I know take with no problems while working.
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I just remembered anything with Benadryl or the generic of it can cause false positives also. My son got some product to take to get rid of weed for making homemade gelatin called Sure Gel that is fruit pectin. I was wondering if activated charcoal or food grade diatomaceous earth might help as they remove toxins. Most tests don't test for kratom but maybe since it's becoming more popular they are and I've heard a couple say they did test positive for methadone and they'd never done it in their life but I'd be more worried about Benadryl causing a problem I think if I was taking allergy meds. Wishing you luck! I have only been tested once and it was positive for xanax but they never said a word to me about it.
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Thank you guys all for the advice i seen kratom can stick around 10+ days espiecally ive been using it for many many years since 2015 with small breaks but never more than a month.


Im headed to piss now i guess ill just use my real piss instead of the fake stuff.... i saw quickfix 3.0 is getting caught in labs


Quick update.... im stressing like a turkey on thanksgiving day. I did submit my pee and will let you all know if its dirty and what shows!
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Trippyhippydippy wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:49 am Thank you guys all for the advice i seen kratom can stick around 10+ days espiecally ive been using it for many many years since 2015 with small breaks but never more than a month.


Im headed to piss now i guess ill just use my real piss instead of the fake stuff.... i saw quickfix 3.0 is getting caught in labs


Quick update.... im stressing like a turkey on thanksgiving day. I did submit my pee and will let you all know if its dirty and what shows!
Did you get the results yet? Fwiw, I know you can dispute results and get a retest so if it would pop for something like methadone, that would be a definite neat step. Though I am sure you will be fine!

Interesting on labs catching fake pee. My husband works in finance and has to get drug tests whenever he has gotten a new job - he is a heavy cannabis user so he has always gone the route of fake pee with 100% success. He isn’t looking at moving jobs right now but I will have to keep this in mind if he does.
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How does he do fake pee, they check you for anything hiding
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I took a test recently while using heavy amounts of kratom daily. There are specific tests that can test for kratom but basic tests do not (urine). I worried more about my nasal spray which I stopped 2 days ahead for false positive. And came back completely clean. What you would want to find out is how many panel test are they doing to be able to determine if it will have kratom on there. As far as I know it would have to be the kratom specific 10 panel test to detect it. However this is just what I have learned over the years which is definitely fallible. If it is court related all precautions are best. If it is just a basic 5 panel test or job stuff I wouldn't worry to much. But obviously you should do what you think is best while doing research. Be aware there is misinformation out there to scare people away from kratom as well so take everything with a grain of salt. Good luck.
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Also there is a process if you get a false positive where a specialist has to check the results. And usually can see if it is a false positive based on specifics in the reading.
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I recently took a 14 panel drug test at work and nothing came back positive
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BundyMcDiggyDoodles wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:13 am I took a test recently while using heavy amounts of kratom daily. There are specific tests that can test for kratom but basic tests do not (urine). I worried more about my nasal spray which I stopped 2 days ahead for false positive. And came back completely clean. What you would want to find out is how many panel test are they doing to be able to determine if it will have kratom on there. As far as I know it would have to be the kratom specific 10 panel test to detect it. However this is just what I have learned over the years which is definitely fallible. If it is court related all precautions are best. If it is just a basic 5 panel test or job stuff I wouldn't worry to much. But obviously you should do what you think is best while doing research. Be aware there is misinformation out there to scare people away from kratom as well so take everything with a grain of salt. Good luck.
Thanks its 10 panel i came back diluted and had to retest.....
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Lokey wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:41 am How does he do fake pee, they check you for anything hiding
They took off my shirt and pants up to the knees but im pretty smooth lol. It was a doctor office with a bathroom connected and she stood right behind the door idk how she didnt hear me fumbling around but i practiced all night last night lol

The first test two days ago they didn't make me take off my shirt or roll up my pants so i was sweating bullets but pulled off the great Houdini ... Instead of the fake piss i used a friends. During the entire situation i felt retarded all for a leaf...... But they dont even allow alcohol or weeed and im in a legal state.
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Daydreamsofmountains wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:12 am
Trippyhippydippy wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:49 am Thank you guys all for the advice i seen kratom can stick around 10+ days espiecally ive been using it for many many years since 2015 with small breaks but never more than a month.


Im headed to piss now i guess ill just use my real piss instead of the fake stuff.... i saw quickfix 3.0 is getting caught in labs


Quick update.... im stressing like a turkey on thanksgiving day. I did submit my pee and will let you all know if its dirty and what shows!
Did you get the results yet? Fwiw, I know you can dispute results and get a retest so if it would pop for something like methadone, that would be a definite neat step. Though I am sure you will be fine!

Interesting on labs catching fake pee. My husband works in finance and has to get drug tests whenever he has gotten a new job - he is a heavy cannabis user so he has always gone the route of fake pee with 100% success. He isn’t looking at moving jobs right now but I will have to keep this in mind if he does.
It could be shills on reddit but people say they have found biocides and or figure out a way to identify it. It could just be a bad temperature reading when you drop.... i got diluted the first round and wasnt trying to dilute it.......
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Heres an update i pissed it came back diluted for no reason and they said i will fail if i dilute again.... I'm afraid to tell you guys but i just used my friends pee with a hand warmer to be safe.....Its to big of a risk to fail when all i do is kratom... i dont even drink or smoke weed its legal here but the company is basically the goverment. I mean they are background checking every part of my life with a microscope.
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Markra wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:07 pm I recently took a 14 panel drug test at work and nothing came back positive
amazing man i freaked out and didnt want to risk it since they send the pee to the companies own lab..... who knows what they will do
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Trippyhippydippy wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:20 pm
Daydreamsofmountains wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:12 am
Trippyhippydippy wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:49 am Thank you guys all for the advice i seen kratom can stick around 10+ days espiecally ive been using it for many many years since 2015 with small breaks but never more than a month.


Im headed to piss now i guess ill just use my real piss instead of the fake stuff.... i saw quickfix 3.0 is getting caught in labs


Quick update.... im stressing like a turkey on thanksgiving day. I did submit my pee and will let you all know if its dirty and what shows!
Did you get the results yet? Fwiw, I know you can dispute results and get a retest so if it would pop for something like methadone, that would be a definite neat step. Though I am sure you will be fine!

Interesting on labs catching fake pee. My husband works in finance and has to get drug tests whenever he has gotten a new job - he is a heavy cannabis user so he has always gone the route of fake pee with 100% success. He isn’t looking at moving jobs right now but I will have to keep this in mind if he does.
It could be shills on reddit but people say they have found biocides and or figure out a way to identify it. It could just be a bad temperature reading when you drop.... i got diluted the first round and wasnt trying to dilute it.......
Interesting re biocides. Thank you!

Sorry about the first one. Sending you some positive vibes for this second one.
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Trippyhippydippy wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:24 pm Heres an update i pissed it came back diluted for no reason and they said i will fail if i dilute again.... I'm afraid to tell you guys but i just used my friends pee with a hand warmer to be safe.....Its to big of a risk to fail when all i do is kratom... i dont even drink or smoke weed its legal here but the company is basically the goverment. I mean they are background checking every part of my life with a microscope.
That's very weird if it wasn't diluted.
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My parents' church/school detected fake pee and did not hire an applicant. Apparently it's very easy to find and fakes stand out like a glaring light.
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Lokey wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:17 am
Trippyhippydippy wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:24 pm Heres an update i pissed it came back diluted for no reason and they said i will fail if i dilute again.... I'm afraid to tell you guys but i just used my friends pee with a hand warmer to be safe.....Its to big of a risk to fail when all i do is kratom... i dont even drink or smoke weed its legal here but the company is basically the goverment. I mean they are background checking every part of my life with a microscope.
That's very weird if it wasn't diluted.
i usually drink a gallon of water a day or more but drank a much smaller amount that day but it was to much with my workout.
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IndelibleDotInk wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:33 am My parents' church/school detected fake pee and did not hire an applicant. Apparently it's very easy to find and fakes stand out like a glaring light.
Thanks that what im hearing and reading on reddit i would have probably been fine its a 10 panel test. Imagine it doesn't even check kratom.
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It seems like you are really worried/paranoid about this pee test, so just want to ease your mind. Standard drug tests only check for marijuana, amphetamines, etc.

Relax. Take a deep breath. They are NOT checking for kratom or other natural supplements. Those require special tests that 99.99% of standard urine tests aren’t even looking for.

Just go in and pee. You will be fine. Don’t use fake urine or your friend’s urine. If you get caught doing that, it’s game over. Why risk it?

Trust me man, you’re fine.
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Ive been in the same predicament as OP and it came back diluted, it was first thing in the morning and all I had was kratom, water, ACV and black coffee. Failed both times cuz they said both samples were diluted, I don't think it was the kratom tho I'm pretty sure it was the ACV that got me because I've had drug test since then on kratom and passed.
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I had a surprise drug screen added to my lab orders last week. I think it was mental health related—def wasn’t for my job and I never had one done before despite getting annual labs regularly due to a chronic condition from the same health group for over a decade. Anywho, everything was negative (10-panel).
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Trippyhippydippy wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:09 pm
Markra wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:07 pm I recently took a 14 panel drug test at work and nothing came back positive
amazing man i freaked out and didnt want to risk it since they send the pee to the companies own lab..... who knows what they will do
From what I understand is they dont check for the actual drug in you body. They check for the metabolites in your body that process the drug. Im not sure what metabolites kratom would kick off in your body if any. Get a home kit and try that. See if anything comes up.
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