Herbal RVA

[ebjr1092]

So herbal rva sold me stem and vein as RMD, and very well on accident but also that chance i could be wrong but my opinion is that its stem and vein because i have had many expierences with it. I like their product, red’s are my color. Anyone else experienced this with them?

decided to edit to not come off harsh or unfair as some people have noticed, but since the beginning it was just a post to see if anyone else had the same expierence .
thank you

[beathappening]

How do you know it's stem and vein and not rmd? did you email them?

I've never had any sort of complaint from RVA, they've been good to me 100% of the time.

[thisisthehaunt]

Yeah was about the type the exact same post. as the guy above me.

I'd think contacting them should be the first step, to both make sure that you're not mistaken and to remedy it if you're right.

[beathappening]

I'm looking at mine side by side and they are indistinguishable. Color, consistency, etc

[herbalhippie]

The stem & vein I got from RVA ages ago just looked like regular kratom. How do you know it's red maeng da? Does it have the exact same effect?

[ebjr1092]

Yea i e-mailed him and the stuff he said the stuff could not be refined through the mill enough so its just more coarse grind but the only true way we can know it was a mistake is from sending it back so he can look at it in person. I Kinda jumped the gun because the effects and look are just like the stem and vein i recently had. do feel bad and i have edited these posts to not sound like an unfair conclusion. sorry for the misinformation guys . Ill post a picture to see what your reactions are https://imgur.com/a/PMNydsZ

[ebjr1092]

but i mean they do sell s&v on the site so it could be a mistake... either way if its s&v itll give me that t break ive been wanting till the socal gets here.

[gravystainonmyshirt]

So why would you make that claim if your guessing due to the fact that they sell stem and vein on their site. Thats is so rude and immature. What makes you think its stem and vein anyways, because they also sell it. Idk why you would make a remark without any proof, if the label on the bag said stem and vein than i understand but just because they sell it doensnt mean that if you dont like the strain you can complain and make remarks like that. Gives honest sellers a bad name. I personally really enjoy his constant quality and timely shipping methods. Hes an a+ seller all the way.

Not trying to jump on ur case but we on this forum rely on honest reviews and careful attention to detail in order to decipher who is a good vendor and not. Try to review only on what you see, feel, and experience next time, if you suspect something mention it but dont outright claim it. Mention you think it might be so since its just an opinion. Make facts your statements and opinions your suggestions.

Thanks

[ebjr1092]

dude i appreciate your concern but in all honesty its definitely s&v... and just because it is doesnt make him any less of an honest man or company, people make mistakes. it sounded harsh and unfair but i posted it to see if anyone else had the same experience...i even backtracted on what i said and i would take it down because i like his services. he could have easily sent me his red s&v without realizing it and the only true way he would know is if i sent it back to him but im sure of what i know. you guys coming off so hard gave me second guesses but after examining it(even though appearences dont really matter), i tried it some more and am sure of what im posting. ive distinguished leaf from stem and vein many times as i have ordered both a lot but again, people can have bad expierences with great vendors... it happens and again it doesnt mean he isnt honest or ill intended nor does it mean im lying because youve had a perfect reputation with him. im sorry again for wrongly wording my experience. the assumption point of view may seem like it was only a guess but i was 90% sure and now im 99%. only a post to see if anyone had a similar batch, no ill intentions. i hate misinformation as well and im sorry for sounding like i wasnt sure. i joined because i wanted honest reviews as well and this post isnt fabricated because i dont like the company even though it may seem that way

[beathappening]

I agree with gravystain. It would be one thing if you were just asking a question if anyone else has had the same issue, but you went a step further and said you're completely sure and it comes off more as a (baseless) accusation. RVA is one of the best and most professional, so that's why I'm so incredulous.

people make mistakes.

Yeah, you included.

it sounded harsh and unfair but i posted it to see if anyone else had the same experience.

I have never heard anyone make this bizarre claim before, and you may be the first.

. he could have easily sent me his red s&v without realizing it and the only true way he would know is if i sent it back

Then send it back. You say you hate misinformation but you're basing all of this on opinions, not facts.

ive distinguished leaf from stem and vein many times as i have ordered both a lot... but i was 90% sure and now im 99%.

Firstly, you can't really tell much from that picture you posted. You could have at least put some other kratom side by side to compare it with.

Second, RVA's stem and vein looks exactly like regular leaf. But even if your red maeng da is a coarser grind, that's indicative of nothing, as any kratom can have a coarser grind, it's not limited to stem and vein. Coarse grind does not equal s&v.

I have some of both here in front of me right now. Do you also have a RVA bag labeled stem and vein to compare it to? Or are you just guessing?

If all you're going by is the way it makes you feel,
well I guess we can't really prove that one way or the other, but that could easily be psychological/placebo. I really think RVA deserves the benefit of the doubt here. I'm sure if you were somehow able to prove you're right, Jonathan would be more than willing to make it right.

I'm not saying that jfish is incapable of making mistakes, I just disagree with your logic for making that statement.

[beathappening]

Here's a side by side comparison. One is red stem and vein, and one is red maeng da. Any guesses
Sorry for the quality, my phone's kinda shitty.