What's happened to phatcracker?
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Oletimer
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What's happened to phatcracker?
I reordered after it was back in stock,,and it did nothing, ,I have went back twice and tried again, no affects,,has anyone else noticed this? When it works,it's great, I don't know of any blend or strains that give you same feeling,,any suggestions? Btw,I did not go back twice and order,I went back twice to try what I did order,in case it was a issue with me,like eating too soon, etc.
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
wOw big surprise a cheap Mystic "house blend" is low quality? haha Should have quit while you're ahead on that 1.I have went back twice and tried again, no effects
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xOMERTAx
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
Same here, man. Been a loyal fan of Mystic and my all time favorite blend, ever. It’s shit to be honest. Idk what happened. I have little less than a kilo now just sitting here.
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Arctic_Martian
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
You probably got accustomed to kratom from a higher-quality supplier, and now your tolerance is too high for Mystic's exceedingly average kratom.
Drawn in by the low prices, I ordered a bunch of samples of their "originals" back when they had just opened up. Basically my impression was Green Maeng Da = Green Borneo = Green Horn = Red Maeng Da = Red Bali = Bentuangie. Same color, same effects, no fermentation on the Bali or even the Bent. When all your originals are already the same, there's not much point in making blends out of them...
Drawn in by the low prices, I ordered a bunch of samples of their "originals" back when they had just opened up. Basically my impression was Green Maeng Da = Green Borneo = Green Horn = Red Maeng Da = Red Bali = Bentuangie. Same color, same effects, no fermentation on the Bali or even the Bent. When all your originals are already the same, there's not much point in making blends out of them...
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
I never recommend Mystic to anyone. I've ordered from so many vendors I've lost count, some good some bad, but Mystic is by far the worst of them all. If they had good product over the summer, it was probably by accident. Even a blind dog finds a bone once in a while. If I remember correctly, Phatcracker was a red, green and white blend, so I'd recommend trying Inland's Bulgarian blend, which is also red, green and white, and it's wonderful... At least it was a few months ago when I stocked up. If you don't want to spend that kind of money (Inland is pricey), I'd suggest buying the individual strains from Liza's and blending it yourself. There is far better kratom out there than what you'll find at Mystic... pretty much any vendor discussed around here will be a step up.
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Oletimer
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
Might have phased that differently, I didn't go back and order again, I tried it again later, twice,,I thought it might have been a fluke, like I ate too soon,etc. Did not order it again, I have tried different vendors, had a couple hits with bb,and got kraydo today, Smiley time on the way,thanks to ballz recommendations,kraydo green horn is pretty good,,haven't tried others yet,,but anyhow when I got a quarter of crap sitting around, I ain't going to keep ordering crap,,,I look for new vendors, ,
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NLK316
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
My recent order of phatcracker did absolutely nothing for me which is unfortunate. It's always worked well in past orders, but this last order from 2 weeks ago is bonkers!
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Oletimer
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
Exactly, ,
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
Its kind of obvious, but is only an opinion, i dont actually know, but assume that their supplier changed recently due to the shipping issue that got a lot of shipments seized. And they must have just kept the names of their kratom the same to keep sales moving, even though the kratom isnt coming from the same supplier.
I assume that once they reorder through their normal supplier after stock diminishes they could have the original quality back n running, that is if the original supplier changes their shipping company to the order will make it to the us safely. Which i assume would be the case because why would a supplier not change the shipping company unless they want to go out of business.
So for now im staying away from mystic until other people taking the risk leave multiple positive reviews about how the quality is back to par. Until then im with BB or RVA. But mailny BB now that rva raised the price and BB has the 4way code for 28% off
I assume that once they reorder through their normal supplier after stock diminishes they could have the original quality back n running, that is if the original supplier changes their shipping company to the order will make it to the us safely. Which i assume would be the case because why would a supplier not change the shipping company unless they want to go out of business.
So for now im staying away from mystic until other people taking the risk leave multiple positive reviews about how the quality is back to par. Until then im with BB or RVA. But mailny BB now that rva raised the price and BB has the 4way code for 28% off
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
NLK316 wrote:My recent order of phatcracker did absolutely nothing for me which is unfortunate. It's always worked well in past orders, but this last order from 2 weeks ago is bonkers!
I wasn't too impressed with phatcracker either (I received on the 18th I think) honestly, haven't been a fan of any of the blends by them. I have been doing orders of alot of their strains to sample since I'm desperate for good pain relief. Would anyone be interested in me making a post reviewing all the strains I'm trying? I've found a couple really great ones apart from the horrible
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
Same here.... Interesting thing is that they have no amethyst available so how do they have phatcracker?? It's a blend with amethyst and one of the whites??? Very disappointed with my last order and feel as if I was deceived. I order ALOT from mystic but am currently looking elsewhere. If anybody has any suggestions please let me know. Thanks!
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xOMERTAx
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
I made a post awhile ago in it. It’s trash unfortunately. Wasted 2 kilos on something that doesn’t do anything at all. It’s a shame, they’re my favorite vendor up until now.
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
I would be interested in seeing someone from Mystic coming on here and letting us know what THEY think the issue is...Their quality took a steep nose dive when the shipping issues came about. Obviously they are not getting the same quality leaf. This is where a really good vendor would step up and try to explain, rather than just sell sub-par leaf and lose customers and never say a word? Personally I will not order from them again. I have gotten good product from them in the past, but since they had a supply issue, quality is GONE. It happens to all vendors from time to time, but that's when a good vendor would step up and either not sell bad leaf, or let people know it's not their same quality of leaf. (maybe sell at a discount). Just my opinion.
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Oletimer
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
Exactly!
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Oletimer
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
There has to be a trust between you and your vendors,,they had a good thing going,,like you said, at least explain it,,otherwise ya feel like you've been taken for a fool,,lose the trust,it's gone
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
Came here to say this exactly. It would show some transparency and good faith and possibly even to help themselves regain some base if this ever gets resolves. Right now, everyone's jumping ship, they're developing a bad reputation quick, all that mixed with alabdog03 wrote:We need a formal explanation. We would be interested in seeing someone from Mystic coming on here and letting us know what THEY think the issue is...Their quality took a steep nose dive when the shipping issues came about. Obviously they are not getting the same quality leaf. This is where a really good vendor would step up and try to explain, so we can relate to one than just sell sub-par leaf and lose customers
(large unannounced price hike) sure is driving even long time customers away. They gotta give us a press conference!
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
Mystic Island has been REMOVED from the Vendor List - Way too many Customer Complaints, bad reviews, poor quality, even product switching. And.. Sure appears there has been shilling on this Forum. Whatever. We've collected around 10 legit complaints, many by long-time customers. Bye Bye! 
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Re: What's happened to phatcracker?
Product switching? No way. Where's the proof on that? That's some shady shit!