How to make the best out of your Kratom!

[killzallx2]

Ok, so I'm experienced with kratom and I've tried many methods, toss and wash, mixing with water, mixing with juice, and caps (made my own) all these methods were consistent with the exact strain and amount used. I took a week off each to have consistent results and not let tolerance affect the experiment. Frankly, the lease effective was caps, then toss and wash, then water mix, then the strongest was juice mix. Capsules take a much longer time to disolve and when they do, not all kratom is mixed properly in your body and you end up with clamps, that have dry kratom in them that has not been mixed. Same with toss and wash, although a little more effective and faster hit. The most effective method was mixing with juice. Now juice like orange juice or grapefruit, or lemon, or cranberry have lots of vitamin c, which helps you absort the kratom, making it feel stronger, as well as they contain citric acid, which basically helps extract the alkaloids from kratom, making your concoctions way stronger when left in the fridge for over an hour. Freezing is another potentiator that I will not get into right now but you can search up "freezing kratom". Anyways, I hope you guys get something out of this and make the best out of your kratom!

[LuLu]

Thank you very much. I appreciate you taking the time. I mix mine with OJ, but need to take capsules sometimes.

I heard that if you make some pin holes in the capsules before taking them it will help with absorption. Have you tried this? What’s your thoughts?

[killzallx2]

So making pin holes will make it hit faster, because the pills will be absorbed faster when there's liquid both inside and out, but it will not necessarily potentiate the kratom. However, You could drink orange juice when you down the pills. Although it will not be the same as mixing kratom with orange juice before drinking it, it will definitely make it a little more stronger than normal water.

[beathappening]

How does mixing it with juice before (or using it to wash down capsules) make it stronger? This is the first I'm hearing of vitamin c or citric acid being called a potentiator. Are there any sources that support this, or is it more just your experience?

[LuLu]

kratom, making your concoctions way stronger when left in the fridge for over an hour. Freezing is another potentiator that I will not get into right now but you can search up "freezing kratom". Anyways, I hope you guys get something out of this and make the best out of your kratom!

Are you saying that’s its best to make or Kratom in OJ then leave in the fridge at least and hour before taking so that the Kratom will work better?

What about the night before?

This is great information!!! Thank you!!

[e_poison]

Are you saying that’s its best to make or Kratom in OJ then leave in the fridge at least and hour before taking so that the Kratom will work better?

What about the night before?

Yes, you can freeze it the night before. Freezing breaks the cell walls. I recommend mixing it with lemon juice and water, then freezing it overnight. Take it out, let it thaw, and drink.

Here's some more information on potentiating: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=74

[killzallx2]

This isn't just from my experience, there's online sources you can check out that prove this. Check out my original post on Reddit where I explain in more details. I also referenced some sources you can check out where it proves it. And yes, the longer you leave it in the fridge with mentioned juice, the more alkaloids are extracted from the kratom.

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[beathappening]

This doesn't work for me, and it sounds a little like placebo. I use juice everytime, everyday, and have never noticed a difference in leaving it in the fridge or just drinking it right away, or any other combination thereof. There's so many other variables that are always in play that makes such an experiment difficult to remain objective. Seems like any perceived difference could just as easily be the result of tolerance or maybe you waited longer after you ate this time or anything else that makes kratom not hit 100% of the time. Sure, maybe the alkaloids behave as you say they do, but I don't know if that translates to "it's 1.5g stronger". Not for everyone anyway.

In any case, your body/mind will grow accustomed to this method and you'll have to do it everytime to achieve your desired effects, and plain leaf will quickly become less effective. But that's true for all potentiators.

[BallzDeep9]

yes, the longer you leave it in the fridge with mentioned juice, the more alkaloids are extracted ...

Makes sense, anything U can do physically to the powder should "release" alkaloids .. I've been freezing daily for about a year. Like e_poison said, Cell Lysis is a proven effective way to get at the goodies ...

Lately I've taken it one step further. Even. Stir each dose in very hot water, 160 degrees not only kills bacteria, it makes Tea out of the powder.. except I don't drink the tea lol - I cool, stir, then put in freezer overnight... thaw next day & mix a kratom smoothie

Adding the hot water step, then freezing the tea .. I notice there's very little left of powder after that. Not much grit remaining, I still use a sludge filter to catch any grains of sand or foreign objects, since it's raw bulk plant matter... chugging the Green Alkaloid Smoothie hits hard especially mixed w/ liquid vitamins etc. Yeah some people are thinking, how anal, but hey I even enjoy the taste now

[killzallx2]

You made a good point ballz! make sure to use simmering water as I've read boiling water can kill the alkaloids. And beathappening maybe you've used the method too much that you've got used to it? I can guarantee you its not placebo as its proven that citric Acid, vitamin C, and freezing will potentiate it and make it stronger. You can check out the references in my original post on reddit. I wouldnt recommend using this method as you would get used to it. I would only use this method when I feel like I'm not getting much out of my kratom / on occasions.


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