Booster serving

[Cbest011]

When you have your first serving of the day of Kratom, about how long or what is the optimal time for a booster dose? And how much is enough for you?

I know everyone varies and what is too much for one is a normal size for another. I’m just curious because I seem to add too much when I add a booster serving. And sometimes I think I wait too long and it’s a waste of Kratom.

Thanks!

[IndelibleDotInk]

Same question here.

[WeAllFloatHere7]

Following... I dose 3x per day but they only last like maybe 2 hours. I'm trying to find a schedule that allows me to keep feeling it all day with boosters but I haven't figured it out. I always feel like when I do a booster I'm wasting leaf and raising my tolerance for nothing.

[IndelibleDotInk]

Following... I dose 3x per day but they only last like maybe 2 hours. I'm trying to find a schedule that allows me to keep feeling it all day with boosters but I haven't figured it out. I always feel like when I do a booster I'm wasting leaf and raising my tolerance for nothing.

Shaun (FusedFlora) made a post about second dosing amount could be less because of the high amount of alkaloids already in the body, and also saving leaf.

There was a nice graph, I guess use the search bar?

[Quercus]

When you have your first serving of the day of Kratom, about how long or what is the optimal time for a booster dose? And how much is enough for you?

I know everyone varies and what is too much for one is a normal size for another. I’m just curious because I seem to add too much when I add a booster serving. And sometimes I think I wait too long and it’s a waste of Kratom.

Thanks!

I start the morning with an energetic white. My first dose is 0.5g, followed by another 0.4-0.5g dose about 45 to 60 minutes later. If I'm really sleepy, I'll sometimes take a third 0.4g dose an hour after the second. Unless I've had a really good night's sleep the night before, even the most energetic white will send me straight back to snooze-land if I take more than 0.5g at once.

[Kaitlanfutbol]

If my initial dose doesn't work as well as I wanted it to, I will take about 1/3 of that dose about an hour later. After that it seems like taking any more is a waste, and I try to wait for the next scheduled dose.

I try to wait 4 or more hours between doses, and not to get my hopes up about how well it's going to work. As long as it makes me feel a little better, that's all I can ask for. Anything more is just a bonus and I don't expect it everytime. I think some people get disappointed with Kratom when their expectations exceed its efficacy (thanks covid for that vocabulary word, hope I used it right).

[zachdank]

Ive literally never had a single booster dose work for me personally. I quit trying to mess with them a long long time ago. Def wrecked my tolerance with zero benefits. Initial dose to perfection then i don't take another dose for 6-8 hours earliest. Thats what works best for me. But we all know that kratom is far far from one serving or one method works best for everybody

[the_spookiest]

Ive literally never had a single booster dose work for me personally. I quit trying to mess with them a long long time ago. Def wrecked my tolerance with zero benefits. Initial dose to perfection then i don't take another dose for 6-8 hours earliest. Thats what works best for me. But we all know that kratom is far far from one serving or one method works best for everybody

im with zach on this one. risk > reward in my case. If I don't do it right the first time, me trying to improve or keep the ride going (boost/dosing under 2hrs after), it sets off most of the day with how much and when I dose next. The hard part is obviously finding the right size to just need 1 serving to get through whatever scope of time you like.

Metabolism surely plays a role in this, and liver health, stomach's fasted or not, etc...I am lucky to feel full effects that I enjoy for 4 hours. A good solid burn will be 3hrs and then an afterglow of "just fine" for about 1.5 hrs. Ideally, waiting 5 hours between doses leaves time for both eating, and metabolism to make the next burn as good as the first. Nowadays im hitting a 4 hour mark feeling antsy and excited to burn again, but no 'interdose issues' if you will. If a days busy or I've got labor to do that'll wreck desired effects, I might push a few hours back or skip a serving. If I take a dud blend or didn't take enough of a new batch or something, well, sucks 4 me, and i might use a tested and true leaf that I know works for my next dose.

I think, maybe, the boost thing serves a purpose and truly is noticeable on folks who dose under 1.5g (less maybe)? It would wreck my tolerance more with the constant flood than the ebb and flow of a ~5 hour serving gap throughout the day.

Hats off to you who can truly ride that dragon's tail all day with boosters.

[Kmac4844]

That’s part of my routine for couple years now easy and it can be 30 minutes later to hour or two but majority it kicks off nicely and I use only all Malay from different vendors

[fusedflora]

Ive seen success many different ways, but it comes down to "how often?"

the half-life of kratom is typically 12 hours, but most folks re-dose around 5-7hrs at the same rate as the first. I tend to disagree with this, as it tends to lead me to more tolerance issues than taking an approach of 2.8g is my initial dose, 2g is my second, and 1.8g is my third.... Something like that.

As Incred pointed out, there's a useful chart to show the reduction of alkaloids in your system over time, but the key is identifying your initial dose for the math to work out. The second step would be determining how much is often enough for you to think it's not unreasonable (every hour is out of the question for most). With these two, you could use the chart to initially dose, and then redose on the math to maintain a consistent burn (provided you know the level of alks).

Short, it's difficult for most people to do, but once you get it down, you just type your initial into an excel sheet and how long it's been since that one and you'll have a good idea of what will work. I find 4 hours or 6 hours is about right, but I also regularly reset.

On a side note, I do keto and have this awesome ketone blood meter to measure how well I'm doing. I'd love if someone made some alkaline test strips to make it easier for us.... million dollar idea...

[TheStanman]

My best success with a booster dose is 60 - 90 min after at 1 - 2g. But like others here, I usually try not too. Best case for me is 6 hours between doses, but often it's 4 or 5. And have a nice 12 - 13 hour break between last dose of the day and first dose of the next day.

[onespeedstop]

I usually sip mine (mixed with orange juice) and if it's not kicking in by the time I'm done with it (30-60 mins) then I go add another gram or two and another splash of oj. My usual (starting) amount being 4-5 grams. If I'm feeling it halfway through my drink, then obviously no booster needed. If I'm ever still not feeling it after the booster, then I figure it'll be time to take a few days or a week off. Much like with body weight, it's easier just to not up your dose (of kratom, or food) in the first place, because eventually there will be a "price" to pay.

[TheStanman]

Much like with body weight, it's easier just to not up your dose (of kratom, or food) in the first place, because eventually there will be a "price" to pay.

Very true. Sometimes you just have to accept that this burn might not be as good and not try to chase it.

And sometimes, after I assume the burn is no good, it'll sneak up on me and an hour or two later I realize I'm feeling great!

[starshine]

I think this is a good topic. for quite a while now, I've been doing a morning booster dose, after 1-2 hrs, of ~2g with my daily moringa. there's def something to be said for fused's post about half life. my first dose of the day at ~4g, usually, barely does anything except get me moving. which is a GREAT thing. my primary goals are chronic pain relief and energy.

as my afternoon and evening doses, at ~2-3g, stack, I normally get the lovely mood boosts. yay! but I've been wondering if it would serve me better to start off with a larger dose and skip the booster. I rarely take more than 4g and I guess I'm afraid it will make me not feel well. but does a daily booster dose mess with tolerance?

[the_spookiest]

but I've been wondering if it would serve me better to start off with a larger dose and skip the booster.

thus this thread in a nutshell. Starshine, you should (if willing) try it out! Experiment a bit. two days one way two days the other. I think a lot of it IS relative. I would probably feel GREAT if I took a 3g initial serving and then a 50% booster 90 mins in. I just would rather assure myself 4 at least decent burns than 1 awesome morning into lunch bleeding into the afternoon and night which is when pain flares up for me. you said that your 4g dose does nothing but normalize and then said taking over 4g may make you feel ill. I would say that probably bumping an extra gram or 2 would not make you feel sick. Just means your spacing increases
Won't know until ya try

[Jfish030]

I go back for seconds often, but it really just depends on how my body feels. If i didn't get much sleep or am feeling sore from working out, etc. So i consider how i feel after about 30-40 mins from the first scoop and adjust if needed.

[WeAllFloatHere7]

Man I'm jealous of you guys talking about this working. I've tried it so many ways. My morning burn takes about an hour and 15 minutes to kick in and lasts like maybe a couple hours (usually taken at about 845 AM) and dies off by 1130-12 at the latest and then I wait until 3 to hit another and that typically only gets me to about 530 if I don't eat after it and if I do eat after it it gets me to about 445-5 then I'm stuck waiting until night time (845ish) to hit another burn which is super hit and miss on if I will feel anything at all. Maybe I just need to find a better way to space smaller doses.

[Love_Redz]

I always take a small first serving, to get my receptors going then an hour or 2 later take my regular dose and 90 percent of the time my leaf hits a home run, sometimes my small first dose is plenty for my morning dose and don’t need my normal serving I’d say maybe 5 to 10 percent of the time

[the_spookiest]

to get my receptors going

Not sure if I understand the science or thinking behind this. Can you explain or show where you read about this? Love to learn more.
Sort of goes against how I have generally viewed the brain's receptors. Crowding a doorway a little bit doesn't help getting bigger things through that same doorway.

[Loveandpeace]

Last night was not intended as a trial in bad ass booster behavior, it just happened that way.

I consumed a 2.2g (1.1g Benni Bent, 1.1g FF Red Aceh) tea for my evening wind down. Also made 1.6g TFH Jade Hulu tea for my gal. She forgot about it (NOT a regular user), I gulped it assuming she didn't care for it anymore. This was not true! After a scolding, made another for her and she was asleep. So I gulped that too! Red dose at 6, green at 6:45, another green at 8) I don't like to dose this way and remembered why. I was zooming about, which was great but got hit by a bus a few hours later. It was a blast though. Woke up feeling funny too.

It is just another way this leaf is miraculous! It calmly informs you of mis use. That is certainly a unique and special trait.