Lizas best botanicals

[Ravenflow]

Do you guys know if she test her products I ran up on some drama with her Kratom on google

https://speciosarepublic.org/vendor-war ... otanicals/

[Madvillain626]

Probably not

As long as the kratom is handled correctly I dont care. Never caught salmonella or anything from ketum

[GrannyJ62]

I believe she does but its not something I ve ever worried about.I ve been purchasing leaf from Liza for over 3 yrs probably close to a hundred times and I ve always received fire from her not once have I been disappointed with her leaf shes been and is my #1 my "tea missionary ".
I ve also purchased leaf from over 20 vendors from ballz list many vendors reccomended here and have always been more than happy, Liza and TFH are tied for my #1 but wow I truly have a lot of other favorites here rotation is important to me.
As far as SR goes I feel like that group may have. started out trying to do something good but ended up being a mean girls group playing favorites with certain vendors,I first found out about them when my friends house burned down she.had a gofundme they actually investigated and made her prove to them her housed burned she sent them pictures a newspaper article s to prove it.that was how I first heard of them.I couldn't understand why she would do it.Then they "investigated "several other vendors and it seems ni matter what they do its not enough but who are they anyway they sneak.
around and then share SS they aren't approved by anyone yeah they kinda have pissed me off who do they think they are a group of gossipy mean people.

Sorry for the rant but yeah I have a huge amount of excellent leaf from a multitude of vendors but if I could only ever purchase 3 kinds of leaf ot would be Lizas Happy-go-lucky and RHSC and TFH 30yr gold so thankful i don't have to.

[Greyfeather]

I feel pretty much the same way about Speciosa Republic, Granny. They remind me of some kind of local neighborhood commission that is trying to 'clean up' every one else's life. High ideals but the usual idiosyncratic behavior. You end up with a bunch of people trying to police everyone else's business practices. Sure, some bit of oversight may be good, but I have seen the SR go after vendors on the strength of little more than gossip.

[CatfatherB]

Speciosa Republic=the kratom karens

[Ravenflow]

I believe she does but its not something I ve ever worried about.I ve been purchasing leaf from Liza for over 3 yrs probably close to a hundred times and I ve always received fire from her not once have I been disappointed with her leaf shes been and is my #1 my "tea missionary ".
I ve also purchased leaf from over 20 vendors from ballz list many vendors reccomended here and have always been more than happy, Liza and TFH are tied for my #1 but wow I truly have a lot of other favorites here rotation is important to me.
As far as SR goes I feel like that group may have. started out trying to do something good but ended up being a mean girls group playing favorites with certain vendors,I first found out about them when my friends house burned down she.had a gofundme they actually investigated and made her prove to them her housed burned she sent them pictures a newspaper article s to prove it.that was how I first heard of them.I couldn't understand why she would do it.Then they "investigated "several other vendors and it seems ni matter what they do its not enough but who are they anyway they sneak.
around and then share SS they aren't approved by anyone yeah they kinda have pissed me off who do they think they are a group of gossipy mean people.

Sorry for the rant but yeah I have a huge amount of excellent leaf from a multitude of vendors but if I could only ever purchase 3 kinds of leaf ot would be Lizas Happy-go-lucky and RHSC and TFH 30yr gold so thankful i don't have to.

Whats ballz list?

[Jennah82]

I just seen Liza’s botanicals and had to click , she sure does test her stuff I been with her for two years now and has always has batch numbers and I’ve always only had the bests of the best I’ve been around to a few vendors and no one tops her fast service and quality . And wow those Karen’s really have no life to be bashing someone like that online , those are called bullies they think there the kratom police lol . If I were you I would at least try a sample pack to see if you like it which I’m sure you’ll love it Liza is also the sweetest soul you’ll ever meet . God bless her soul

[IndelibleDotInk]

Whats ballz list?

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6713

click on the link on the top, ballzdeep9 compiled this list of kratom vendors, you're sure to find one you like here, and there are price comparisons and some diff product types.

The post with the info is stickied to the top of the general kratom forum if you need it in the future.

[fhanak]

it's my first time hearing his name

[WickedMadScientist]

I just seen Liza’s botanicals and had to click , she sure does test her stuff I been with her for two years now and has always has batch numbers and I’ve always only had the bests of the best I’ve been around to a few vendors and no one tops her fast service and quality . And wow those Karen’s really have no life to be bashing someone like that online , those are called bullies they think there the kratom police lol . If I were you I would at least try a sample pack to see if you like it which I’m sure you’ll love it Liza is also the sweetest soul you’ll ever meet . God bless her soul

All three of your posts only talk about Liza lol. Y’all I really wouldn’t be surprised at all if this is her or a significant other or someone tied to her. This literally reads as an AD, I thought shilling here was frowned upon. I really hate assuming or not giving others the benefit of the doubt, but come on lol...

[Greyfeather]

I just seen Liza’s botanicals and had to click , she sure does test her stuff I been with her for two years now and has always has batch numbers and I’ve always only had the bests of the best I’ve been around to a few vendors and no one tops her fast service and quality . And wow those Karen’s really have no life to be bashing someone like that online , those are called bullies they think there the kratom police lol . If I were you I would at least try a sample pack to see if you like it which I’m sure you’ll love it Liza is also the sweetest soul you’ll ever meet . God bless her soul

All three of your posts only talk about Liza lol. Y’all I really wouldn’t be surprised at all if this is her or a significant other or someone tied to her. This literally reads as an AD, I thought shilling here was frowned upon. I really hate assuming or not giving others the benefit of the doubt, but come on lol...

There are many members here who have favorite vendors and are happy to sing their praises. MANY. You are making a lot of assumptions about a commenter here. Actually, your assumptions are CREEPY, dude.. Maybe try not to be creepy.
Have you sampled any leaf from Liza? Ever? No, we don't encourage shilling but - then again - Trolls are universally disliked on forums everywhere. If you have a problem with Liza bring some receipts or maybe go home.

You haven't been here long, maybe? Personally I'm beyond grateful that Double M members are so welcoming and tolerant because I posted some impulsive things in my first days and I'm grateful folks were so willing to give my uninformed stuff a pass

Liza is a respected vendor. Winning people's respect can take many years. Imo, she has paid her dues.

[WickedMadScientist]

I just seen Liza’s botanicals and had to click , she sure does test her stuff I been with her for two years now and has always has batch numbers and I’ve always only had the bests of the best I’ve been around to a few vendors and no one tops her fast service and quality . And wow those Karen’s really have no life to be bashing someone like that online , those are called bullies they think there the kratom police lol . If I were you I would at least try a sample pack to see if you like it which I’m sure you’ll love it Liza is also the sweetest soul you’ll ever meet . God bless her soul

All three of your posts only talk about Liza lol. Y’all I really wouldn’t be surprised at all if this is her or a significant other or someone tied to her. This literally reads as an AD, I thought shilling here was frowned upon. I really hate assuming or not giving others the benefit of the doubt, but come on lol...

There are many members here who have favorite vendors and are happy to sing their praises. MANY. You are making a lot of assumptions about a commenter here. Actually, your assumptions are CREEPY, dude.. Maybe try not to be creepy.
Have you sampled any leaf from Liza? Ever? No, we don't encourage shilling but - then again - Trolls are universally disliked on forums everywhere. If you have a problem with Liza bring some receipts or maybe go home.

You haven't been here long, maybe? Personally I'm beyond grateful that Double M members are so welcoming and tolerant because I posted some impulsive things in my first days and I'm grateful folks were so willing to give my uninformed stuff a pass

Liza is a respected vendor. Winning people's respect can take many years. Imo, she has paid her dues.

Sorry if I offended you, but it’s pretty hypocritical to comment about assumptions, and make an assumption yourself as if I’ve never tried her leaf. I don’t comment on leaf unless I’ve experienced it. I stated my conviction on assuming, and I rarely do it, but this ones evident if you look at the 3 posts that the account made, and how they read.

Yea, I’ve tried Lizas years ago, and sampled many different varieties. I’m commenting on my experience and others reviews, they are consistent with my experience. So no offense, this is an open discussion. If you read my other reply, regarding this poster on the other comment they made, maybe this wouldn’t of offended you so creepily. Good day sir.

[Greyfeather]

Yea, I’ve tried Lizas years ago, and sampled many different varieties. I’m commenting on my experience and others reviews, they are consistent with my experience. So no offense, this is an open discussion. If you read my other reply, regarding this poster on the other comment they made, maybe this wouldn’t of offended you so creepily. Good day sir.

Assumptions surely can be problematic. Btw - I'm not a man. You have a good day also.

[starshine]

honestly, I like some of the Liza's leaf I've had. but whether she tests or not seems to be a mystery. people have said that when they asked, they got blocked. I've heard this a few different times by different people. sooo... I'm not asking because I like having the option to purchase if It want to without being ostracized lol. personally, I'm guessing it's a no.

[GrannyJ62]

I just seen Liza’s botanicals and had to click , she sure does test her stuff I been with her for two years now and has always has batch numbers and I’ve always only had the bests of the best I’ve been around to a few vendors and no one tops her fast service and quality . And wow those Karen’s really have no life to be bashing someone like that online , those are called bullies they think there the kratom police lol . If I were you I would at least try a sample pack to see if you like it which I’m sure you’ll love it Liza is also the sweetest soul you’ll ever meet . God bless her soul

All three of your posts only talk about Liza lol. Y’all I really wouldn’t be surprised at all if this is her or a significant other or someone tied to her. This literally reads as an AD, I thought shilling here was frowned upon. I really hate assuming or not giving others the benefit of the doubt, but come on lol...

There are many members here who have favorite vendors and are happy to sing their praises. MANY. You are making a lot of assumptions about a commenter here. Actually, your assumptions are CREEPY, dude.. Maybe try not to be creepy.
Have you sampled any leaf from Liza? Ever? No, we don't encourage shilling but - then again - Trolls are universally disliked on forums everywhere. If you have a problem with Liza bring some receipts or maybe go home.

You haven't been here long, maybe? Personally I'm beyond grateful that Double M members are so welcoming and tolerant because I posted some impulsive things in my first days and I'm grateful folks were so willing to give my uninformed stuff a pass

Liza is a respected vendor. Winning people's respect can take many years. Imo, she has paid her dues.

This all day long I found out about Liza thru a fibro group but I was pleasantly surprised to see her here on doubleM,bottom line is if you have any problems with her leaf take it up with Liza I know for a fact she's ways open for input just talk to her.I have grown to love and respect Liza as have many others here,She has so many different choices I know I have tried them its like ballz explained in an earlier post shes constantly striving to sale excellent products as are most of the vendors discussed here.