Reds just don't work...

Post by **MattyMatt88** » Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:10 pm

Hey all, been taking kratom for about 2 years and I have never been able to feel much of anything from reds. Just me? The one positive about red imo is the less terrible taste compared to my normal greens! I have always heard the red is more euphoric but never got to experience that.. Oh well! I'll stick with the green!

Post by **NiqueKristan** » Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:38 pm

MattyMatt88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:10 pm Hey all, been taking kratom for about 2 years and I have never been able to feel much of anything from reds. Just me? The one positive about red imo is the less terrible taste compared to my normal greens! I have always heard the red is more euphoric but never got to experience that.. Oh well! I'll stick with the green!

A lot of people don’t get any effects from red- you’re not alone!

Post by **WhiteAngelica** » Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:23 pm

MattyMatt88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:10 pm Hey all, been taking kratom for about 2 years and I have never been able to feel much of anything from reds. Just me? The one positive about red imo is the less terrible taste compared to my normal greens! I have always heard the red is more euphoric but never got to experience that.. Oh well! I'll stick with the green!

What are you looking for in a red? How long have you been taking kratom? I'm a red-a-holic, so I might be able to suggest things.

Have you blended red with green? Red mixes beautifully with gold if you are looking for bliss.

Post by **Compete** » Mon Dec 20, 2021 11:12 pm

I am the same way but I just had the first strain hit me the way people describe reds. Was royal gold 1 from Heavenleaf. Before that I’ve tried reds from multiple vendors and had no real effect.

Post by **Xiaobao** » Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:04 am

MattyMatt88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:10 pm Hey all, been taking kratom for about 2 years and I have never been able to feel much of anything from reds. Just me? The one positive about red imo is the less terrible taste compared to my normal greens! I have always heard the red is more euphoric but never got to experience that.. Oh well! I'll stick with the green!

you mean red vein? or red-colored kratom powder?
because as far as i know, red vein leaf after process also have green-color powder

Post by **Gianster** » Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:47 am

Take more.

Post by **MattyMatt88** » Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:48 pm

WhiteAngelica wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:23 pm
MattyMatt88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:10 pm Hey all, been taking kratom for about 2 years and I have never been able to feel much of anything from reds. Just me? The one positive about red imo is the less terrible taste compared to my normal greens! I have always heard the red is more euphoric but never got to experience that.. Oh well! I'll stick with the green!
What are you looking for in a red? How long have you been taking kratom? I'm a red-a-holic, so I might be able to suggest things.

Have you blended red with green? Red mixes beautifully with gold if you are looking for bliss.

I've tried blending but not near enough. Taking for 2 yrs. I would love suggestions! Thanks! And I need to get ahold of some gold.

Post by **MattyMatt88** » Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:49 pm

Gianster wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:47 amTake more.

Lol, never though of that. But sure, why not

Post by **pray4peace4** » Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:23 pm

OP... I had a similar experience myself. After I started using greens, reds didn't do anything for me. It stayed that way for 5 years until I decided to try some things to see if I could force my body to respond to reds. It worked. I completely stopped all greens. Now I know the red/green thing is misleading especially because most strains are blends, but I went ahead & did that. I used exclusively reds. After 3 days of that I had my first good experience with a red, but it wasn't consistent. So after a couple weeks of that I decided to up my dose. Prior to this point I limited my doses from 1.5-3g. I jumped up to a 5g dose & a new universe opened up. Every dosing was a great experience after that. All those red strains that didn't work & had piled up in my basement, they all worked if I used a 5g dose. Reds definitely have a different grouping of effects than greens - they're "softer", as some have described it it's a warm blanket feeling.

There's a bad side to this - my body doesn't respond AT ALL to greens now. Brother. I miss the sheer intensity that only greens seem to have &, of course, I have a lot of greens. I've considered seeing if could reverse this or not, but for right now I'm still going to enjoy the reds for awhile longer.

So I'd suggest you try what worked for me. Put all your greens back on the shelf & use... maybe 4g doses of reds exclusively for up to a week & see if your body starts responding.

Post by **Rhino236** » Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:09 pm

MattyMatt88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:10 pm Hey all, been taking kratom for about 2 years and I have never been able to feel much of anything from reds. Just me? The one positive about red imo is the less terrible taste compared to my normal greens! I have always heard the red is more euphoric but never got to experience that.. Oh well! I'll stick with the green!

Colors are a shit show. All leaf is physically red veined leaf. “Colors” are just drying methods. But there’s no standards for processing of colors. It’s just how each farmer and supplier does it. Just saying dont focus on names and colors because they mean absolutely nothing. Try a bunch of batches and see what works best.

Post by **Loveandpeace** » Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:37 pm

Rhino236 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:09 pm
MattyMatt88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:10 pm Hey all, been taking kratom for about 2 years and I have never been able to feel much of anything from reds. Just me? The one positive about red imo is the less terrible taste compared to my normal greens! I have always heard the red is more euphoric but never got to experience that.. Oh well! I'll stick with the green!
Colors are a shit show. All leaf is physically red veined leaf. “Colors” are just drying methods. But there’s no standards for processing of colors. It’s just how each farmer and supplier does it. Just saying dont focus on names and colors because they mean absolutely nothing. Try a bunch of batches and see what works best.

Hi Rhino,

I am enjoying your Bali Gold from last year. Top notch!!

Are you saying, about colors being BS, that I can change my dose order entirely? For example: I have 4 boxes labeled Red, Green, White, Yellow. I go in order and then to Red again. Could I take all labels off, assign a number from 1 to 4 and go in that order? Is it that random? Both techniques avoid 'same strain syndrome'.

Does that question make sense? As long as I rotate regularly, I am fine?

Thank you,

long time burner, first time asker

Post by **Compete** » Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:25 pm

Now I’m genuinely curious. Do these vendors just have testers that report effects back to them then classify them as reds, especially the really bright green colored leaf that’s labeled as reds. I’d think they would have to do something like this if not wouldn’t you get some strains labeled red that could be pretty fast?

Post by **SeventhHeaven** » Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:40 pm

I HIGHLY recommend sticking "Behind The Scenes Of The Kratom Industry" in the search box and reading the loooooooooooooooong thread (several pages) of excellent info about, well, exactly that!

It was put together by Chris of Texas Family Harvest (TFH), and it's an absolute gold mine of information about all of this

Post by **brave777** » Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:57 pm

If i take reds, i usually Always take 30% to 40% more then what i take from white or green. Thats if you want to feel that relaxation. If you do that and you feel nothing, you got bunk. flush it. Or if you know kratom just weak, you can go up to 10 grams. and if still feel nothing then flush it for sure. dont be afraid to raise dosage on reds... try it.

Post by **Compete** » Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:45 am

Maybe that’s it I’m on pretty low doses 1.8-2g of green or white. But I’ve went up to 3.5 on quite a few reds and don’t feel it. Maybe it’s because the dose is so low? Idk Im worried if I try to go much higher I don’t want to mess up my tolerance and have to up my greens and whites also.

Post by **CatfatherB** » Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:47 pm

Compete wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:45 am Maybe that’s it I’m on pretty low doses 1.8-2g of green or white. But I’ve went up to 3.5 on quite a few reds and don’t feel it. Maybe it’s because the dose is so low? Idk Im worried if I try to go much higher I don’t want to mess up my tolerance and have to up my greens and whites also.

you could probably go higher with reds, I doubt taking larger doses of weaker kratom will wreck your tolerance

Post by **MattyMatt88** » Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:04 pm

Rhino236 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:09 pm
MattyMatt88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:10 pm Hey all, been taking kratom for about 2 years and I have never been able to feel much of anything from reds. Just me? The one positive about red imo is the less terrible taste compared to my normal greens! I have always heard the red is more euphoric but never got to experience that.. Oh well! I'll stick with the green!
Colors are a shit show. All leaf is physically red veined leaf. “Colors” are just drying methods. But there’s no standards for processing of colors. It’s just how each farmer and supplier does it. Just saying dont focus on names and colors because they mean absolutely nothing. Try a bunch of batches and see what works best.

Lol nice plug Rhino236. I will for sure try your stuff very soon. Thank you

Post by **MattyMatt88** » Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:07 pm

SeventhHeaven wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:40 pm I HIGHLY recommend sticking "Behind The Scenes Of The Kratom Industry" in the search box and reading the loooooooooooooooong thread (several pages) of excellent info about, well, exactly that!

It was put together by Chris of Texas Family Harvest (TFH), and it's an absolute gold mine of information about all of this

I started reading that thread! It has excellent information. And I love TFH! I was only able to get some earlier this year from an open sale but dayum it was incredible! Thanks for the input!

Post by **IndelibleDotInk** » Fri Dec 24, 2021 6:04 am

Reds didn't produce much effect until recently, I stopped using kratom every day, then went back to some old batches of reds at a higher dose and bam!, better burns than ever.

Post by **Supersonic75** » Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:28 am

IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 6:04 am Reds didn't produce much effect until recently, I stopped using kratom every day, then went back to some old batches of reds at a higher dose and bam!, better burns than ever.

Wow! I may have to follow suit; I was really surprised to see that you wrote that. Cool! May I ask how high you dosed?

Post by **IndelibleDotInk** » Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:48 am

Supersonic75 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:28 am
IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 6:04 am Reds didn't produce much effect until recently, I stopped using kratom every day, then went back to some old batches of reds at a higher dose and bam!, better burns than ever.
Wow! I may have to follow suit; I was really surprised to see that you wrote that. Cool! May I ask how high you dosed?

4g, could even use a little less. Strange cause I tried many reds at that dose before w/no great effect at all. Now i am getting the honeymoon experience with reds. Personal chemistry changes? Have had tolerance resets of several weeks many times in the past without this dramatic shift to wonderful kratomization. I guess I'l keep rotating the batches and hope for the best.

Post by **mivanqua** » Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:58 pm

WhiteAngelica wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 8:23 pm
MattyMatt88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:10 pm Hey all, been taking kratom for about 2 years and I have never been able to feel much of anything from reds. Just me? The one positive about red imo is the less terrible taste compared to my normal greens! I have always heard the red is more euphoric but never got to experience that.. Oh well! I'll stick with the green!
What are you looking for in a red? How long have you been taking kratom? I'm a red-a-holic, so I might be able to suggest things.

Have you blended red with green? Red mixes beautifully with gold if you are looking for bliss.

Bliss? Who needs bliss with all of this insanity?

I don't know karate but I know ka-razy
-Jamea Brown

Edit : (I hope) obviously I'm just joking. Huge bliss fan here.

Post by **brave777** » Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:12 pm

Just want ti remind everyone if you been taking red only, take 50% less of green or white because you can always add more in an hour. reason i say this, it could be to much for you and you might have to lay day. Thats why if you switch from green/white to red, you have to take more red. Unless you take 2-3 days off from kratom then you dont have to take more red. Use common sense, it always works with kratom.

Post by **Supersonic75** » Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:31 pm

IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 9:48 am
Supersonic75 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 1:28 am
IndelibleDotInk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 6:04 am Reds didn't produce much effect until recently, I stopped using kratom every day, then went back to some old batches of reds at a higher dose and bam!, better burns than ever.
Wow! I may have to follow suit; I was really surprised to see that you wrote that. Cool! May I ask how high you dosed?
4g, could even use a little less. Strange cause I tried many reds at that dose before w/no great effect at all. Now i am getting the honeymoon experience with reds. Personal chemistry changes? Have had tolerance resets of several weeks many times in the past without this dramatic shift to wonderful kratomization. I guess I'l keep rotating the batches and hope for the best.

Cool! It’s so weird how body chem can shift around, especially if one changes up their regimen. I just started a little tolerance break yesterday, so maybe the timing is good. I know there’s more in there for me. Thanks!

Post by **Redlion40** » Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:40 pm

The darker the actual color I've found the less potent it is. Like I had some really dark Red Malay and it was terrible. Look for a red that is not red in color and you should be good. It can have a little bit of color but it can't be dark. That's a sign that it might have been over dried or over cooked in the Sun.

Post by **tasha99** » Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:12 am

Redlion40 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:40 pm The darker the actual color I've found the less potent it is. Like I had some really dark Red Malay and it was terrible. Look for a red that is not red in color and you should be good. It can have a little bit of color but it can't be dark. That's a sign that it might have been over dried or over cooked in the Sun.

I'm the opposite. I mean, yes, they're less potent in that you have to take a little more, but the result to me is really good. Some of the best kratom I've had has been brown-- Lucky's Royal Bentley, Heavenleaf Red Kedamin 5, Otie's Red Bent, Otie's Black Bali,and some that I'm too lazy to go find the names of from TFH and Denette. They're all bents. I find them to be relaxing and pain relieving.

Post by **Humble9300** » Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:32 am

Redlion40 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:40 pm The darker the actual color I've found the less potent it is. Like I had some really dark Red Malay and it was terrible. Look for a red that is not red in color and you should be good. It can have a little bit of color but it can't be dark. That's a sign that it might have been over dried or over cooked in the Sun.

Then at that point. All Kratom is Kratom. Lower doses are stimulating and higher are relaxing. Always.

Post by **HappyHugs** » Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:45 am

6+ years daily kratom user, same vendor after going through dozens of other ones, personal preference was the vendor I chose and even though it's mad expensive it's also consistent which if you think about it is important for people like me who use kratom daily for motivation, productivity and feeling fucking great

Red Bali that they have and their Red Horn (called other names on site) work extremely well for me

Other sites/vendors reds' didn't

My vendor has strains that don't work for me though too- their MOST POPULAR STRAIN #1, is my LEAST favorite out of all 22+ strains they have

It's a green strain too, which you love you said

Just experiment, try your own thing and find what works and doesn't work for you

I pay mad bank for my kratom and when I share about it I get called out and being told I'm being ripped off - well then cool I'm being ripped off lol I'm in too good of a mood to even care anyways - I just am making the point that you do what YOU want and if red's dont work for you - fuck it, try someone else's red or just alltogether DROP reds, go all greens all day all the way

Whatever makes you happy

Post by **MattyMatt88** » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:04 pm

MitraMike wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:45 am 6+ years daily kratom user, same vendor after going through dozens of other ones, personal preference was the vendor I chose and even though it's mad expensive it's also consistent which if you think about it is important for people like me who use kratom daily for motivation, productivity and feeling fucking great

Red Bali that they have and their Red Horn (called other names on site) work extremely well for me

Other sites/vendors reds' didn't

My vendor has strains that don't work for me though too- their MOST POPULAR STRAIN #1, is my LEAST favorite out of all 22+ strains they have

It's a green strain too, which you love you said

Just experiment, try your own thing and find what works and doesn't work for you

I pay mad bank for my kratom and when I share about it I get called out and being told I'm being ripped off - well then cool I'm being ripped off lol I'm in too good of a mood to even care anyways - I just am making the point that you do what YOU want and if red's dont work for you - fuck it, try someone else's red or just alltogether DROP reds, go all greens all day all the way

Whatever makes you happy

Of course I have to ask, could you PM me whoever you use? Definitely interested. And yea, I am branching out on vender. In fact, I was lucky enough to get a very reputable vender on an open event recently. Should be here tmrw. I got 3 greens and 1 gold. I'm just done w reds until my mind changes lol. Thanks bro!

Post by **HappyHugs** » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:26 pm

MattyMatt88 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:04 pm
MitraMike wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:45 am 6+ years daily kratom user, same vendor after going through dozens of other ones, personal preference was the vendor I chose and even though it's mad expensive it's also consistent which if you think about it is important for people like me who use kratom daily for motivation, productivity and feeling fucking great

Red Bali that they have and their Red Horn (called other names on site) work extremely well for me

Other sites/vendors reds' didn't

My vendor has strains that don't work for me though too- their MOST POPULAR STRAIN #1, is my LEAST favorite out of all 22+ strains they have

It's a green strain too, which you love you said

Just experiment, try your own thing and find what works and doesn't work for you

I pay mad bank for my kratom and when I share about it I get called out and being told I'm being ripped off - well then cool I'm being ripped off lol I'm in too good of a mood to even care anyways - I just am making the point that you do what YOU want and if red's dont work for you - fuck it, try someone else's red or just alltogether DROP reds, go all greens all day all the way

Whatever makes you happy
Of course I have to ask, could you PM me whoever you use? Definitely interested. And yea, I am branching out on vender. In fact, I was lucky enough to get a very reputable vender on an open event recently. Should be here tmrw. I got 3 greens and 1 gold. I'm just done w reds until my mind changes lol. Thanks bro!

If you want, sure. Might not work still and might be a waste of money.

Might work and might change your experience around dramatically for the better.

Who knows.

Do what you want and you will find success

PM'ing you now my man

Post by **sandwich_creator** » Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:04 pm

MattyMatt88 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:10 pm Hey all, been taking kratom for about 2 years and I have never been able to feel much of anything from reds. Just me? The one positive about red imo is the less terrible taste compared to my normal greens! I have always heard the red is more euphoric but never got to experience that.. Oh well! I'll stick with the green!

Reds worked well for me for a period of about two months, which was said months into my Kraton journey. I would have said really well, but I never got much sedation from it at all. But the migraine relief I got was second to none, so I was extra bummed when it just didn't work anymore.

Post by **Markra** » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:43 am

Happy hippo

Post by **Sanbutsushin** » Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:38 am

sandwich_creator wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:04 pm Reds worked well for me for a period of about two months, which was said months into my Kraton journey. I would have said really well, but I never got much sedation from it at all. But the migraine relief I got was second to none, so I was extra bummed when it just didn't work anymore.

This is really interesting to hear! I've tried using kratom when my own migraines are bad, and it hasn't touched them at all. I wonder if it's because most of my migraines are hormonal-related. Kratom has no problem dulling virtually any other kind of pain, from muscle aches to neuropathy "burning" to tooth pain and post-surgery blues, but a headache? No dice! It kind of drives me crazy how unpredictable this plant can be, lol.

Post by **sandwich_creator** » Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:00 pm

Sanbutsushin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:38 am
sandwich_creator wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:04 pm Reds worked well for me for a period of about two months, which was said months into my Kraton journey. I would have said really well, but I never got much sedation from it at all. But the migraine relief I got was second to none, so I was extra bummed when it just didn't work anymore.
This is really interesting to hear! I've tried using kratom when my own migraines are bad, and it hasn't touched them at all. I wonder if it's because most of my migraines are hormonal-related. Kratom has no problem dulling virtually any other kind of pain, from muscle aches to neuropathy "burning" to tooth pain and post-surgery blues, but a headache? No dice! It kind of drives me crazy how unpredictable this plant can be, lol.

It is definitely a finicky plant! I'm hoping I get some success out of it again.

Post by **brave777** » Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:30 pm

Sanbutsushin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:38 am
sandwich_creator wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:04 pm Reds worked well for me for a period of about two months, which was said months into my Kraton journey. I would have said really well, but I never got much sedation from it at all. But the migraine relief I got was second to none, so I was extra bummed when it just didn't work anymore.
This is really interesting to hear! I've tried using kratom when my own migraines are bad, and it hasn't touched them at all. I wonder if it's because most of my migraines are hormonal-related. Kratom has no problem dulling virtually any other kind of pain, from muscle aches to neuropathy "burning" to tooth pain and post-surgery blues, but a headache? No dice! It kind of drives me crazy how unpredictable this plant can be, lol.

Perhaps its not kratom that is not working, look at other factors in life, few examples, do you cook a lot and use microwave? Most people i know have crazy migraines in kitchen, first thing i ask how often they use microwave. And once i tell them stop using it and use stove instead, issues for a lot of people go away. Just look up radiation meter and microwaves. Its in extreme red zone levels each time you turn it on. All got to do is youtube it. New Smart Meters, is its behind your room outside wall? If you look, not one plant will grow around it, everything turns black. Just go google images and type smart meter radiation, you will see bunch of pictures, imagine what it does to your brain? Eating bad ingredients, sure the cake looks nice and sweet and delicious, once consumed you feel dazzled, confused, shitty... How often do you hold your cell phone to your ear, how many hours? I told this one girl at one store working behind customer service to stop using phone all day for one day and see if it solves her headaches, because she was complaining she get crazy headaches. After i week i stop by and asked her if it worked out? she couldn't thank me enough, it solved her issue. Figure what triggers it and you wont have any headaches. If kratom doesnt work, that means it has got out of control, could have serious consequences soon. If you go get help, i am sure it will be pain pills, but do you really need that or find the source where the issue is coming from?

Once you figure what caused it, all red kratom will feel brand new uplifting smiles. Main thing is to figure where the problem is coming from. If you dont know, its about time to sit down and think what you are repeating everyday that could cause it. I am willing to bet, if you rent some cabins in tenseness mountains away from all EMF, spend a week, perhaps use CBD to heal faster, you will notice headaches disappear. Doesnt have to be tennesee, it can be anywhere away from big citys in the mountains preferred with plenty of tree's. You need all the air you can get so no 5 masks... And watch 100% what you eat, could be same food causing it each time. I know personally, i stopped eating certain things, solved most my issues before. If i can do it, you can too.

If you still have full blast router every night. Try it once, disconnect all wifi/router in the house, 100% diffrerence day and night, everyone who i told this eventually get their tech all wired, if its to good to be true and they experience it them selfs, nothing will stop from the switch. Sleep is never disturbed and sleep like baby, no awkward weird nightmares. I have a friend and each time i try to fall asleep at house house, I CANT. he has router, tv, all laptops and cell phones on Wifi... I feel like i am disturbed, something is off. i would lay to 4 or 6 am not able to fall asleep. Happens every single time, so i dont bother, no matter how tired i feel i drive home. Never have issue and fall asleep instant. Emotions not disturbed. If it sounds to good to be true, let me remind you, it is too good and its true. You will never find out until you try it yourself. I understad it might take weeks to look up google how to disable wifi and wire the house. Are you willing to sacrifice wireless for your health? End result is to feel like spider man 100%... Even if you live next too cell phone tower, there is ways to protect, like painting the whole room with EMF paint blocking. Having a cell tower nearby, if you look you will notice the grass and bushes even tree's turning black, if you have not realized this by now, go find a cell tower and look how everything grows around it. There is always a solution for everything only if you look. good luck.

Post by **Sanbutsushin** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 1:25 pm

Brave I love you but I just said my headaches are hormonal. Nothing is out of control and it certainly isn't my microwave or my router.

I'm glad you found a lifestyle that works for you but you can't apply your personal issues with electronics to everyone around you without pushback.

Post by **WV Horticulture** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 2:07 pm

Up your dose a little bit, and blend with about 30% white. This is my evening dose daily, and after 10+ years of daily use for chronic pain, it seldom fails to please.

Post by **Roofdog** » Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:37 pm

Been consuming for about 3 years and have tried many reds. I always heard red for pain, for me thats not true. Green hits the pain I have wonderfully. The biggest factor I found is who you're getting the reds from. Vendor choice imo is the biggest factor in what you consume. I have found some solid vendors and will stick with these guys forever. Then I found Double MM and am very excited to become a member so I can try some of the smaller batches I keep hearing about if thats how it works. Been enjoying the content here. Thank you much to all who set this up!!

Post by **WeAllFloatHere7** » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:56 pm

Always been a big fan of reds, but when I started dosing multiple times per day, I noticed my reds weren't doing much for me. I was doing 6g 3x a day of greens during the day and reds at night, and often blending the two as well.

I upped my night time red to 8.3g and BOOM. Slaps me almost every time just how I like. Just have to play around with your doses. I am constantly going slightly up or down and playing with different batches. Give reds another try, for me, they feel far better than any greens or whites. They're worth the experimentation!

Post by **PeteSteel** » Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:52 am

SeventhHeaven wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:40 pm I HIGHLY recommend sticking "Behind The Scenes Of The Kratom Industry" in the search box and reading the loooooooooooooooong thread (several pages) of excellent info about, well, exactly that!

It was put together by Chris of Texas Family Harvest (TFH), and it's an absolute gold mine of information about all of this

Absolutely a brilliant thread.

With years of my experiences with different colors Chris's thread on it fits perfectly...