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What type of magnesium do you like to take with your dose for potentiating? And does it help with constipation as well or so you use a different magnesium for that? TIA.
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Are you talking about Magnesium Citrate? Never used Magnesium of any kind to potentiate but Magnesium Citrate certainly will cure the constipation problem that can come with Kratom. :lol:
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I use a magnesium complex everyday and have no problems everything runs smoothly, I got mine from. Amazon
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DylanJames wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:02 am Are you talking about Magnesium Citrate? Never used Magnesium of any kind to potentiate but Magnesium Citrate certainly will cure the constipation problem that can come with Kratom. :lol:
there’s a bunch of different kinds and all four different things. @fusedflora has a thread out about it for potentiating but I’m not sure which one to use for that. I’ll check out the citrate though since it’s at least good for one thing, thanks!
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Yes. Magnesium Citrate definitely helps with what I call 'glacial poops' (slow moving).
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HeatherLelane wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:32 pm
there’s a bunch of different kinds and all four different things. @fusedflora has a thread out about it for potentiating but I’m not sure which one to use for that. I’ll check out the citrate though since it’s at least good for one thing, thanks!
I am in no way an expert on magnesium , but from my limited understanding it sort of works like this; Magnesium supplements have issues with how well they absorb. Magnesium citrate does not absorb well in the gut, and having too much unabsorbed magnesium in your gut can have a laxative effect. If you are taking magnesium for the laxative effect , then magnesium citrate is what you want. If you are looking to get actual levels of magnesium up in your body you want a CHELATED magnesium. Chelated is preattached to an amino acid carrier to help it absorb better. There are different kinds of chelated magnesium , which I don't understand all the differences .Magnesium Glycinate, Malate, & Taurates are often mentioned as chelated magnesiums with higher bioavailability. Well absorbed magnesium supports GABA receptors somehow, which can help with nerve, anxiety and sleep problems, and other things; cardiovascular etc. or so they say. I don't know anything at all about magnesium as a potentiator.
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DittonW wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:33 pm
HeatherLelane wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:32 pm
there’s a bunch of different kinds and all four different things. @fusedflora has a thread out about it for potentiating but I’m not sure which one to use for that. I’ll check out the citrate though since it’s at least good for one thing, thanks!
I am in no way an expert on magnesium , but from my limited understanding it sort of works like this; Magnesium supplements have issues with how well they absorb. Magnesium citrate does not absorb well in the gut, and having too much unabsorbed magnesium in your gut can have a laxative effect. If you are taking magnesium for the laxative effect , then magnesium citrate is what you want. If you are looking to get actual levels of magnesium up in your body you want a CHELATED magnesium. Chelated is preattached to an amino acid carrier to help it absorb better. There are different kinds of chelated magnesium , which I don't understand all the differences .Magnesium Glycinate, Malate, & Taurates are often mentioned as chelated magnesiums with higher bioavailability. Well absorbed magnesium supports GABA receptors somehow, which can help with nerve, anxiety and sleep problems, and other things; cardiovascular etc. or so they say. I don't know anything at all about magnesium as a potentiator.
Oh wow. Thank you for the in depth information. It's nice to know why MG Citrate works so well. Years ago I would take massive doses of Loperamide when in withdrawals from some nasty stuff. No matter how much I took, MG Citrate flushed everything out with no pain to speak of. Just liquefied it. :lol: Sorry for the gritty details but it really is the best thing for blockage.
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DylanJames wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:14 pm It's nice to know why Mag Citrate works so well.
In addition to its laxative benefits... 8-) Magnesium has been proven in Lab studies to increase efficacy in combo with opioids. Here's 1 article. I've also read that hospital Anesthesiologists are giving Mag along with morphine - LINK: Magnesium increases morphine analgesic effect.
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BallzDeep9 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:50 pm
DylanJames wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:14 pm It's nice to know why Mag Citrate works so well.
In addition to its laxative benefits... 8-) Magnesium has been proven in Lab studies to increase efficacy in combo with opioids. Here's 1 article. I've also read that hospital Anesthesiologists are giving Mag along with morphine - LINK: Magnesium increases morphine analgesic effect.
I am reading that tomorrow this morning. It if helps with neueropathy better then it is extremely useful to me as my brother suffers from sensory and muscle nerve damage.
You are definitely deep with your info I've noticed Mr. Ballz. :lol:
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BallzDeep9 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:50 pm
DylanJames wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:14 pm It's nice to know why Mag Citrate works so well.
In addition to its laxative benefits... 8-) Magnesium has been proven in Lab studies to increase efficacy in combo with opioids. Here's 1 article. I've also read that hospital Anesthesiologists are giving Mag along with morphine - LINK: Magnesium increases morphine analgesic effect.

Gah! It doesn’t say what kind though! Do you know?
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I take "CALM" Magnesium before bed and it also helps with sleep.
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Anyone know if mag threonate affects burns?
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HeatherLelane wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:14 am Gah! It doesn’t say what kind though! Do you know?
2 of the articles cited say 'magnesium sulfate', so that kind I would guess ?

I'm no expert, but I've always been under the impression that the different kinds of magnesium are for different "uses", and the chemical they are bound with helps them absorb properly for a specific use. Ultimately though, it's all magnesium, so it should "help" regardless. *shrug*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_(medical_use)
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onespeedstop wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:15 pm
HeatherLelane wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:14 am Gah! It doesn’t say what kind though! Do you know?
2 of the articles cited say 'magnesium sulfate', so that kind I would guess ?

I'm no expert, but I've always been under the impression that the different kinds of magnesium are for different "uses", and the chemical they are bound with helps them absorb properly for a specific use. Ultimately though, it's all magnesium, so it should "help" regardless. *shrug*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_(medical_use)
THANK you! Do you know if you take it a half hour before dosing or with it?
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I take a magnesium complex it's got all the magnesium got it from Amazon it has kept everything running smoothly for me it also may help headaches and RLS.
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HeatherLelane wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:41 pm THANK you! Do you know if you take it a half hour before dosing or with it?
Well, these are mice....And it says "intraperitoneal pretreatment", which Google would have believe means they injected it directly into their stomachs before testing. So I'm gonna go with zero minutes ha-ha. Also, you are not a mouse, and please do not inject magnesium into your stomach directly. I would think 10-15 minutes would be sufficient if taken on an empty stomach.

Personally, I take magnesium citrate with a meal, just to keep things moving along if you will. Never tried it for potentiation, or taking it with kratom. I doubt it would matter, but let us know if you get any interesting results. :)
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GrannyJ62 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:08 pm I take a magnesium complex it's got all the magnesium got it from Amazon it has kept everything running smoothly for me it also may help headaches and RLS.
Good idea Granny!!!
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